Something that annoys me...

[BKSonic]

The Test Server. Not the server, but all the people on it who think, "OmG HAHAHAHAHA!!!11!!1ONE i getto goto everythin b4 u hahah!!!111!!1". The Test Server is to find bugs and fix them. Not to mess around and join just to see everything before other people. Your supposed to test the new things to look for bugs. It's not like a ticket to see everything earlier. Even if it is cool.[/rant]

[LadyZippyBoingenpretzel]

You're right, we are supposed to test for bugs. But in doing so it is also a ticket to see everything early! Everyone wins!

[Missy124]

This is a good point but...i really haven't ever seen anyoneact that way. I completely go along with ladyzippy. You play to test for bugs. Along with playing and testing it is also a sort of "ticket" to see some new stuff on toontown. I'm not trying to be mean just voicing my opinion. Sorry if this offends you in any way!

Good post though,
Open: Missy
Test: Candy

[CreamyCoffee]

I don't see anyone who really plays Test for bugs. I have to admit that I don't. I just play to play the new things. If I do happen to see a bug then I might report it. I have tried but they never fixed it so...

[LadyVioletTwinkletoe]

Testers have a responsibility to report bugs when they find them! That is the whole purpose of Test.

I assure you that whenever LawHq opens, there will be plenty of bugs, crashes and district resets. We will be expected to report what we find.

[LadyZippyBoingenpretzel]

Absolutely! I can't tell you how many things I turned in when CHQ came out (remember the wall in the middle of the street? ). I got so good at reporting things all the time, that I do it regularly on open as well. If you are not reporting bugs you see, you are not doing your job as a tester. Please report!

[varmint]

It's a "Ticket" ...... to get another set of toons!

You can never have enough toons....LOL

[kyga42066]

Originally Posted by BKSonic

The Test Server. Not the server, but all the people on it who think, "OmG HAHAHAHAHA!!!11!!1ONE i getto goto everythin b4 u hahah!!!111!!1". The Test Server is to find bugs and fix them. Not to mess around and join just to see everything before other people. Your supposed to test the new things to look for bugs. It's not like a ticket to see everything earlier. Even if it is cool.[/rant]

I will have to say that we DON'T fix them as we have no programing connection, but we sure as heck can report the major and minor errors we see so they can be fixed.

The common understanding is that lawbot and bossbot hdqtrs will have lvl13-15 cogs and I want my open toons, at least 2 of them, maxed in laff in the very near future. It doesn't matter to me about a maxed suit in cashbot or sellbot here as long as laff is large, plus 109 or so. We have lessened the amount of toons it takes to destroy the CFO from 8 to 4 on lots of occasions when excellent team work is present.

I must admit I have seen many large toons taking four story building solo for a gold/silver star when I know many are coming through the brrg and needed those buildings. I am a bit distressed over that. 2 districts is not conducive to finding 4 story bldgs when you need them, especially selbots. I suggest we leave those bldgs for the needy and volunteer as often as we can to the 50-60 laffers. In DG, I suggest toons select the 'Legal Eagle' for getting the keys there as the 'The Minglers' are usually harder to find due to lack of selbot buildings. The brrg is usually rough on toons because their laff doesn't lend to bldg solo runs. I have 2 test accts so it isn't hard for me as I always have my own help, but others are not so blessed. If your needing help, look for 'fiver' and/or 'hazel'. Tell them your task first and then ask for help. Saying 'can you teleport to me' doesn't cut it much as I have gone many times to a toon asking that, only to see them fishing or on some solo task. Generally, they scan the laff of toons engaged in street battles for the laff and will join them for tooning up. They seldom attack unless the gag is away too low to do the job. They believe in toons using their gags to build gag value so they encourage using the proper size gag for cog level. They suggest toons look at the gag menu and use gags with blue background which give points for use. The green background will be a gag too large to give value for the cog selected. Also remember, if a large cog, say lvl6, is in the line up, a lvl6 gag on a lvl3 cog WILL give value. Use that gag to gain extra points if you have a large amt of them to use. This will build your toon quickly. In buildings, save your large gags for upper floors where the multiplier gives extra bonus to gag use. Learn your gag values to enhance your attack and learn what it takes to kill cogs value wise. (cog lvl+one times coglvl+two is the kill value of the cog)

I hope some of the hints here will help you build quicker - Colonel Chocoluck, wizard of DD's clan of test toons

[auntkymitoon]

LOL< ROFL>

Those of us who play on test daily are the mainstay for reporting issues and so many people who don't play on test regularly can't possibly identify issues. Sad part is those of us who do were unable to prevent issues on open this time and this is the fault of my beloved TT Development team for simply not releasing information to us testers to appropriately TEST
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I am an avid believer NOW after the debacle with the Trophys that had more Testers been enlightened on certain issues and rewards then the problems on open could have been avoided.
Mis Take and Recognition both have 100 races won in two catagories yet no trophy 10 or 20 to this DAY -and this was simply due to lack of understanding, lack of knowledge what they were for. andrew posted he obtained them on lefty mcburger on test and then leenie hunnybunny got them on open and luckily she had raced my test toons months before or I never would have even known there was an issue. I KNEw by reading TTC-not by being an avid Tester....
I got the Grand Touring as did Melissa and andrew and I personally posted the Test explanation on TTC as to what it was for.
however on Test during the testing phase since no one knew what we were supposed to get this trophy for - it was awfully hard to bug report for what we didn't get..- DOES THAT MAKE SENSE??
Eveyone comes over when things come out as it's "Cool" and thats always gonna happen- ignore it and be certain you play on Test enough to be familiar with it so you will know the difference when new stuff comes out

...however to aviod a future major DEBACLE on open, I suggest the Developers provide us testers with further information so we can test the accuracy of it- a list of the trophys and actual work needed to secure them would have been much more beneficial than the way we did it as now it's taken 5-6 different down times on Open to correct so many uncorrected problems as Testers had no clue what to report. Every single bug report I made was backed into from information others posted on TTC and if you review this forum ( TEST TOWN TERRITORY) you will see it was painfully obvious none of us was exchanging information here of any kind on the new trophys HENCE I believe the meltdown on open occurred- all personal opinion guys.


Side not to poster below: BUG REPORT BUG REPORT BUG REPORT lol
5500 Merits honey and I'm taking every 5 or 4 Sell i cross paths with - you can put that in the bank- if that doesn't leave enough for someone doing LOM to get their 20 then WE DON"T HAVE ENOUGH BUILDINGS to play the game and TRUST ME..... open had umpteen districts and there is neve enough 4-5 Sellbot Buildings and if you compain loud enough & in numbers , an invasion will occur and buildings will regenerate-

" 2 districts is not conducive to finding 4 story bldgs when you need them, especially selbots. "

[LadyZippyBoingenpretzel]

Originally Posted by auntkymitoon

...however to aviod a future major DEBACLE on open, I suggest the Developers provide us testers with further information so we can test the accuracy of it- a list of the trophys and actual work needed to secure them would have been much more beneficial than the way we did it as now it's taken 5-6 different down times on Open to correct so many uncorrected problems as Testers had no clue what to report. Every single bug report I made was backed into from information others posted on TTC and if you review this forum ( TEST TOWN TERRITORY) you will see it was painfully obvious none of us was exchanging information here of any kind on the new trophys HENCE I believe the meltdown on open occurred- all personal opinion guys.

I agree with ths 100%! While I understand and appreciate that they want us to figure out stuff for ourselves, like how CFO works, etc....some things NEED to be told! Has anyone written to them and pointed this fact out to them? If not please do! Politely of course....

As far as the number of sell buildings, that too. I believe you can't report too much. Just be polite when you do it!

[Crash Test Monkey]

"5500 Merits honey and I'm taking every 5 or 4 Sell i cross paths with - you can put that in the bank- if that doesn't leave enough for someone doing LOM to get their 20 then WE DON"T HAVE ENOUGH BUILDINGS to play the game and TRUST ME..... open had umpteen districts and there is neve enough 4-5 Sellbot Buildings and if you compain loud enough & in numbers , an invasion will occur and buildings will regenerate- "


OMG that is a good one.

Yeah, and if we complain loudly enough they will lower the requirements for catching 70 species.

Sad thing is, those bldgs are no faster than factories, because you have to spend time looking them. You can get 120 merits every 8 minutes with 2 toons in factory. To match that, you'd need to consistently find 3 5 story sells per hour. Ain't gonna happen.

Those buildings are FAR more useful to toons doing holly/mingler specific tasks, and we all know it. The 20 buildings portion of the LOM task doesnt really apply here, its not Sellbot specific.

If you see my toon in one, you'll also see the lower laffer that asked me to help with it right there too.

Have a nice day!

[dizzymommy]

Wow! You are so right about merits in the factory. I myself prefer doing the short runs for the 120 merits. I find it's much faster then doing a long run. You can easily do two short runs in the same amount of time as one long run and get more merits with that.

On test I don't even bother with the five story sells. But on open especially later at night if you have 2 other friends on with you and three of you are looking for the sells not too bad on time. And with three strong toons you can pretty much sound your way through a building quickly enough.

[granny of nine]

Originally Posted by dizzymommy

Wow! You are so right about merits in the factory. I myself prefer doing the short runs for the 120 merits. I find it's much faster then doing a long run. You can easily do two short runs in the same amount of time as one long run and get more merits with that.

On test I don't even bother with the five story sells. But on open especially later at night if you have 2 other friends on with you and three of you are looking for the sells not too bad on time. And with three strong toons you can pretty much sound your way through a building quickly enough.

yes i do the short runs to in the factory thats because most of the time i do it by myself since everyone is usually busy doing other things and i don't want them to stop doing what they are doing so i'll get mine a little each night since i need 5500 merits lol i leave the sell buildings for the lower ones because they need it more then me unless they are standing in front of one and ask for help then i'll help them but going in the factory is faster

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grand old Lila
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Bear Necessities
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[Crash Test Monkey]

dizzy - so true about 4 strong toons making quick work of a 5 story ddl sell with sound.

on Open, even with 4 toons looking for 5 story sells, I still had a hard time finding enough buildings to keep up with the number of merits you can get by just putting your nose to the grindstone and pounding out 120's.

lol, problem was, me and my friends were never the only ones with the bright idea of grabbing 5 story sells given the higher player counts on open (even at night) - so it was still hard to keep getting three plus per an hour. lol I think maybe you were beatin me to them!

- although, I admit, on good nights it helped to have another computer running, as my other toon could do the searching while the toon needing merits kept busy in factory. On Open I didn't feel bad about taking the 5 stories, as there are plenty of 4 stories to satisfy the needs of toons looking for Hollys/Minglers.

I've come to the decision that I'm never going to pursue hq keys on Test. In the same time spent doing mints/factories ad nauseum, I can raise an entirely new toon with maxed gags and low merit/buck requirements, doing things that arent so repetitive. I always dread seeing that paranoid freak Hysterical Harry in the Brrgh and the oh-so-entitled Susan Siesta in DDL but
still, I think i can run a factory blindfolded at this point as long as i can hear the doors opening and closing. And that's just all wrong.

I think I'll take Harry and Susan over 5500 merits 5 times and 8900 bucks 5 times plus all the intermediates anyday, and i think that exposure to all of TT instead of just factory and bullion gives more opportunities to see bugs that creep in.

Kudos though, to those that have the perseverance to get it done on Test. I would think it isn't as easy as it is on Open, as it's gotta be tough to get groups together to VP and CFO right when your merits are done to keep rolling.

One last thing - Aunt Kymitoon - I totally agree with what you are saying about the devs giving us more specific information about what changes were made, and what we should expect to see, given that we complete whatever they added/changed. I've emailed and bug reported that suggestion, and both times got "thank you for your inputs" in reply. Perhaps we are a "control" group. When testing software, its often the case that specific details are not given to a group of testers, so that they don't use the software in a predictable way. The devs themselves normally test in a manner that verifies that software works when used as intended. I think that maybe we are the ones that are supposed to use it in unintended ways.
Unfortunately, in the case of the trophies, not knowing what we were supposed to see left us almost completely unable to recognize and report problems. You're right on target about that.