Elevator Shuffle Rant

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by Super Fireball Bumblehopper

I read once where someone had wanted to start a "short change guild" for test and at first i thought that was crazy! I'm now rethinking that thought!

Aren't guilds just a larger version of a group of 8? I'm not really asking.
I know the answer. The CCG started out fine. Predictably over time it became
problematic but to its credit not to the degree that an individual toon might be
confronted with. However, human nature cannot be suppressed 100% even in
groups, clans or guilds.

No, I'll stick with my random runs. Much more fun and less hassle overall. I hope
that doesn't mean the CCG kicks me out the door if I happen to show up where
they are

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by BunBun

I just wanted to say that I have bowed out of a CFO run with my organized group because of a "9th wheel". The person happened to be my sf and someone in the group had said no, so and so isn't with us. I got off the elevator and said, yes he does go, he's my sf and I'm not going to shuffle him out of a run, he was here first.

It may not happen often, but it does happen.

Ummm BunBun, do you think if kajun_kutey was secret friends with at least
one in the group she was talking about in her OP, that she would have posted
about them here? Of course not! It's much easier to bow out when you're able to
secret chat with the "9th" wheel, lol.

[kajun_kutey]

I didn't mean to start a debate. I just wanted to rant for a minute and let off some steam. I suppose I was just so shocked that there are so many high level Robber Barons just since I played a few days ago. Ya know, a Short Change feels mighty small standing next to the RB's!

[kalan]

Do not yell at me if you posted this , I just now came up with this myself. Stop the shuffle, put a up button on the ele, then no mad jumping out. See when you in ele, people start jumping out you can not see timer, you get nervous and jump yourself. And, it is hard to know if the shuffle is because you got in or, thier member did not . This would make us alot less anxious without the 25 sec. timer. Yes it could be greifed, though it might calm people down. 1st person in controls the button then you can calmly wait until your team is aboard. You do need a timer still but not 25 sec., that way you can't stand there and not go up. When a non team member boards polietly say sorry I'm helping a friend, they now know your group is full and they hop off. In a perfect world!! LOL

[DutchAmerica]

Theory on the 'cog' suits.

What if you keep your cog suit until you are ready for a promotion to a different cog? Then you have to go back and get tasks to get the pieces to that suit? And each promotion, the suit pieces get harder to get?

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Loosy Goosy

'Scuse me? Got all your parts? How many toons in your circle of friends do?

That sure did sound like a "get lost" paragraph man, whether you meant it or not.

Not sure how you could come up with that one man.
As soon as I kill about 50 more cogs, my big toons suit will be complete (I have 10 of 12 parts now). Many of my friends already have their full suit. Not really sure why that question was needed, but then you always do look for the worst in my posts.

What I was suggesting was that those who are tired of the shuffles and being passed up for runs might find that their time would be better spent doing other things until the CFO lobby is locked back up. At that time there will be no more small toon griefers and no more curious 40-80lp toons. This means a drastic reduction in the stress of loading a group for a run don't you think?
Go reread what I posted and tell me how what was meant as a suggestion to help reduce stress turned into 'get lost'.

Did you bother to read my reply to Kehawin where I already detailed what was meant by that? Show me where in that reply I show a 'get lost' mentality. I'd sure like to set the record straight.

Trust me, we will be losing parts.

Just like we were to 'trust you' when you claimed doing cfo runs was a waste of time because it probably wasn't beatable? You asserted that they had likely not completed an ending at that point correct? Just as then, it is possible you are wrong here. Let's just wait to see what the final product turns out to be.

[Super Fireball Bumblehopper]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Oh please. I have been left in the CFO lobby three or four times on Test, but it is absolutely not comparable with Open Sellbot VP shuffling. That can take hours.

A couple of weeks ago I left a shuffling VP lobby because of a couple of Hollies that wanted only 100 laff toons (my toon was 104). I went to help a friend do a 5 Cash DL and when I got back to the lobby those two hollies were still there. Maybe they just like to shuffle.

If only there were a way to tell, in the lobby, how good a Toon is on the cranes. I have done some Cash CFO runs in 10 minutes, others in 50.

Ok, given, maybe not quite as bad as open but with only 2 servers this can be more than frustrating.

[Super Fireball Bumblehopper]

Originally Posted by Loosy Goosy

Aren't guilds just a larger version of a group of 8? I'm not really asking.
I know the answer. The CCG started out fine. Predictably over time it became
problematic but to its credit not to the degree that an individual toon might be
confronted with. However, human nature cannot be suppressed 100% even in
groups, clans or guilds.

No, I'll stick with my random runs. Much more fun and less hassle overall. I hope
that doesn't mean the CCG kicks me out the door if I happen to show up where
they are

I know a guild for test is not needed but i was in vent mode due to more than once trying to board the elevator and be shuffled. What's really funny is my smaller toon has went more times than my larger toon, who by the way is still looking for that first promotion! LOL

[BunBun]

I finished my Cash suit long time ago, my big toon was able to get very easy tasks for it.

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

Not sure how you could come up with that one man.
As soon as I kill about 50 more cogs, my big toons suit will be complete (I have 10 of 12 parts now). Many of my friends already have their full suit. Not really sure why that question was needed, but then you always do look for the worst in my posts.

What I was suggesting was that those who are tired of the shuffles and being passed up for runs might find that their time would be better spent doing other things until the CFO lobby is locked back up. At that time there will be no more small toon griefers and no more curious 40-80lp toons. This means a drastic reduction in the stress of loading a group for a run don't you think?
Go reread what I posted and tell me how what was meant as a suggestion to help reduce stress turned into 'get lost'.

Did you bother to read my reply to Kehawin where I already detailed what was meant by that? Show me where in that reply I show a 'get lost' mentality. I'd sure like to set the record straight.

Are you kidding me? Ok here's the explanation: IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS
THREAD, KK made it clear she wanted to fight the CFO. The CFO is FREE right
now. Now is NOT the time to waste playing in the Mint for those who want to
practice on the CFO because as you and I both know, he's not going to be
free for long. I read all of your posts and come up with the same conclusion
about your comment ON THIS THREAD: suggesting the Mint is not an option
for someone wanting to fight the CFO.

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

Just like we were to 'trust you' when you claimed doing cfo runs was a waste of time because it probably wasn't beatable? You asserted that they had likely not completed an ending at that point correct? Just as then, it is possible you are wrong here. Let's just wait to see what the final product turns out to be.

I wasn't wrong. It wasn't a right or wrong statement if you'd go re-read. I
was very careful not to say the CFO couldn't be beat. It doesn't take a
genius to know where there's a will there's a way. My responses at the time
was to reassure, not to neigh say, lol. I made the point back then because
everyone was groaning about how difficult he was, and my remarks were
along the lines that we should reserve our frustration until the balancing
issues were addressed. Trust me, I reserved hope for victory in the early CFO
runs as well, just as I did when the VP was first released in TEST over a year ago.

I'll bet you 10,000 jellybeans that we will lose from 2 to 5 parts. Now that's a
statement that will probably be proven wrong but hey, it's just a guess

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

Theory on the 'cog' suits.

What if you keep your cog suit until you are ready for a promotion to a different cog? Then you have to go back and get tasks to get the pieces to that suit? And each promotion, the suit pieces get harder to get?

I like it Heck, I'll take your theory over mine any day hehe.

[CDZ]

Somewhere someone put out some memo I missed. It must have read something like..if you do not break up the group you are with to allow small toons on you are not a nice toon.

I came on this morning and did several runs with whoever wanted to come.

Then after working all day, logged on and found seven friend all interested in cfo. Initially we had a perfect eight because a monkey was there who obviously wanted to go. In the few seconds it took three friends to port an onslaught of other toons arrived.

Our seven went in, but of course given the discussion here no one wanted to be perceived as mean so we split. Not sure but I know me and at least one other went sad, not including the twenty lp monkey who sadded when the lure missed in the cogs round.

I have held back on posting, but it just isn't right for someone to be called elitist if they wish to share a cfo run with their friends, after a days work.

My humble thoughts on the subject.

Test Toons are Wildflower and Short Stack.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Loosy Goosy

Are you kidding me? .... Now is NOT the time to waste playing in the Mint for those who want to
practice on the CFO .... I read all of your posts and come up with the same conclusion about your comment ON THIS THREAD: suggesting the Mint is not an option for someone wanting to fight the CFO.

Please show me where ON THIS THREAD I've made one mention of the Mint?!? You sure are not reading the same things I am when I go back over THIS thread.

I haven't said a word about the mint, I said work those suit tasks. BTW, I've worked most of mine WHILE doing the CFO since they have been mostly for cogs anywhere (60 - 120 per part). If YOU go back and re-read what I've said to KK, it is CLEAR what I meant. If anyone (including KK of course) is too frustrated by the lack of friendlyness, help, and/or just plain old fun in the CFO then give it until next update and be ready to go with a suit. This way you can enjoy the CFO without all the added headaches that this 'free' session is causing. This is a reasonable suggestion and not 'bug off' in any way. I'm really not sure how anyone could see my first post here in that light.

I'll bet you 10,000 jellybeans that we will lose from 2 to 5 parts. Now that's a
statement that will probably be proven wrong but hey, it's just a guess

That may, or may not prove to be the case but my guess is just as good as yours is and I have reason to feel the way I do.
FACT: Disney has changed the sell VP to not take parts after runs (read the release notes)
FACT: We do not get parts in the same way as the SHQ area. We must take tasks to get them.

Under your 'guess', we would have to go get new tasks after every run, go work those tasks, then come back and do merit runs. If your guess is right there are going to be a lot of very angry people in this game. Making us spend hours/days to get parts before we can even begin merits would really not be wise. They could also make it so that you can earn merits before you have your parts which is almost like not requiring parts to begin with since you could just take tasks for cogs and do both at the same time.

Again, time will tell but I'd sure take you up on that bet if there were some way to actually collect it. I doubt Disney would really want to make the CFO THAT hard.

[Snickerdoodle Dog]

I've been having a blast today running with strangers. Occasionally, I've had an SF or NSF in there, but mostly just toons we've all seen around. I've run with middy toons, big toons, and of course, a few Baron 50s. I've seen a lot more random CFO runs with a hodge-podge of toons in the last few days. Maybe toons are taking it a bit less seriously now that the CFO battle has been figured out...if not mastered.

Goon that CFO! Have fun! Tell me ya need me, tell me ya don't...either way, that CFO is gonna face-plant with a train.

[Lady Freckles]

Originally Posted by Snickerdoodle Dog

I've been having a blast today running with strangers. Occasionally, I've had an SF or NSF in there, but mostly just toons we've all seen around. I've run with middy toons, big toons, and of course, a few Baron 50s. I've seen a lot more random CFO runs with a hodge-podge of toons in the last few days. Maybe toons are taking it a bit less seriously now that the CFO battle has been figured out...if not mastered.

Goon that CFO! Have fun! Tell me ya need me, tell me ya don't...either way, that CFO is gonna face-plant with a train.

Over the last couple of days, I've had a blast playing with random toons too. Yes, I've also done runs where there were SF of mine and SF of my SF (if that makes sense) but for the most part I've found a lot of really nice toons who were willing to take anyone in - high laff, low laff, big suit, small suit! (Is that a book by Dr Seuss?)

I'm lucky that I can play through the day and this seems to be a great time to just walk in and board the elevator. From my experience, in the evening it can sometimes get pretty tense in there. Step back from it, take a deep breath, let the area clear a bit and try again...

Disney has not exactly made it easy for any of us to board the elevator without confusion - the area is tiny and one 'Big Suit' standing in front of you completely blocks your whole view.