toon-up

[lunasee]

What is up with these new breed of toons.I can see when they donot choice toonup on your first choice for gags.But what is it when they are working their 5th gag and still donot have toonup.Then they are complaining when you donot toon them up in a battle.I have been on for a while and it just seems like this problem is happening more often.

[Melody]

Originally Posted by lunasee

What is up with these new breed of toons.I can see when they donot choice toonup on your first choice for gags.But what is it when they are working their 5th gag and still donot have toonup.Then they are complaining when you donot toon them up in a battle.I have been on for a while and it just seems like this problem is happening more often.

If you are talking about toons in Minnie's that don't have toon up yet, you are not offered Toon Up again until you get to Minnie's. The Dock is either drop or lure. So toons in Minnie's that took sound in TTC *can't* have toon up yet, maybe they are training for it. Many toons on test take sound in TTC because there is not very many people on to toon up, where sound can be used by itself and trained by yourself. So if they decide to go that round, they can't carry toonup until they are in the Brrgh (trained for it in Minnie's).

If you are talking about toons in the Brrgh - well that is a whole different matter. I'm not sure I can explain why someone would not pick toon up while in Minnie's - it's not something I would do, but maybe someone who picked TU in the Brrgh or not at all could explain their reasoning for you. There is the fact that most toons carry toonup, so one of four without is not a big deal. But often I wind up with just one friend in a buildings and would hate to be stuck without a way to toon them up.

[princessdiamond]

I think its just something else to try when you've made a few toons
As most peeps have toonup it shouldnt matter if someone doesnt have it. Im sure they would have still have plenty to contribute.

Not sure I'd make one on Test but maybe on Open

[BunBun]

This was actually discussed recently in great detail here. Hmm, no toonup?

[Star Spangled Bunny]

I would never tell a toon what gag to pick, but at the same time I dont want them to tell me I stink if i'm not willing to do building or factory alone with a toon who has no tuneup (Thats my choice as well). I will tune up a person helping me even though I might die because of it, I hope for the same from those I play with. I have been playing test for just over a year and I know you have to work alone alot. This also means that you may find only one other person to help with a building. Who is likely to survive, the one tuning up or the one who can't. Lure misses, gags can fail even a maxxed tune can go sad in a building if there is no one to tune them up. Now I know its not a big deal to heal and gag up but still I dont want to do it if I can avoid it. One thing that does bug me is a toon without tu asking for a heal when then are just a few pts down especially if we are doing that building alone.

[UMT]

Originally Posted by lunasee

What is up with these new breed of toons.I can see when they donot choice toonup on your first choice for gags.But what is it when they are working their 5th gag and still donot have toonup.Then they are complaining when you donot toon them up in a battle.I have been on for a while and it just seems like this problem is happening more often.

I can't wait for Cash HQ to hit the Open servers. I actually look forward to the streets of Test turning empty again. I'm really tired of the Open server type of whining that has now come to Test. Test is a place that has always been for the open minded type of people who are just happy to play with anyone.

One of my toons is TUless, and I take it personally when someone makes a general statement about all TUless toons. I've never asked for a TU, and I never will. My toon is TUless because I have 7 fully maxed out toons with TU. I wanted a change, and I have every right to do so. I have every right to have a TUless toon as anyone else has the right to have one with TU. I made him on Test because I thought the machurity level was high enough there. I guess I was wrong, because this is the second thread whining about this subject.

[DutchAmerica]

Originally Posted by UMT

One of my toons is TUless, and I take it personally when someone makes a general statement about all TUless toons. I've never asked for a TU, and I never will. My toon is TUless because I have 7 fully maxed out toons with TU. I wanted a change, and I have every right to do so. I have every right to have a TUless toon as anyone else has the right to have one with TU. I made him on Test because I thought the machurity level was high enough there. I guess I was wrong, because this is the second thread whining about this subject.

I have met a few toons without toon up over my time at test and on open. Some of the toonless wonders will actually tell you up front that they don't have toon up. They'll say "Let's use toon up" and "sorry I can't". They give you the option of taking a chance or passing.It means a lot to me when the say it right up front. And generally speaking, they play very strategically so that you don't end up getting killed and no they don't constantly ask for toon ups. And generally speaking the have very high gags.

It's the new toons that have shown up with the release of the Cash Mint that have no toon up and don't really seem to care if anyone else makes it except for that that a lot of people are talking about. Players that have a lot of experience can get away without having toon up.

But let me ask one question of those 'more experienced' toons that don't have toon up and chose not to get it. Do you make a habit of helping smaller, inexperienced players? I really don't see how you can help smaller toons with less experience stay alive if you don't have toon up. Does that mean when someone asks you to help them go through the fac. You have to cross your fingers that no lure misses? Or that every gag hits?

It's a discussion about not being able to get 'much needed' aid when you need it. It's not whining. +

[UMT]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

But let me ask one question of those 'more experienced' toons that don't have toon up and chose not to get it. Do you make a habit of helping smaller, inexperienced players? I really don't see how you can help smaller toons with less experience stay alive if you don't have toon up. Does that mean when someone asks you to help them go through the fac. You have to cross your fingers that no lure misses? Or that every gag hits?

It's a discussion about not being able to get 'much needed' aid when you need it. It's not whining. +

When I'm playing, and a smaller toon asks for help with a task that might require them needing a TU. I simply say "wait here", "I'll be right back". Then I log out, and log back in with one of my big toons with TU. I tell all new secret friends that if they need help with harder tasks, don't hesitate to ask me to bring out another toon to help them out.

To me it's a matter of not being selfish to me. I'll bring out another toon to help someone else, even if it means not completing a task that my TUless toon needs. My 106laff Tester toon has escorted many pre carry 80 JB sub 40 TUless laffers through the factory. I've gone sad once or twice, and choose to bail out a few times, but what I didn't do was log into TTC and whine about it.

If it's the smaller less experienced players that the OP is complaining about, then they should complain about that. Johny come latley TEST toons who couldn't hack starting a new toon, and working themselves up to the appropriate levels is a whole other complaint. They do however have the same right to explore. When I got into Test, anyone would help anyone else. I guess the times have changed.

DutchAmerica,
If you want to really understand how to play a TUless toon, simpy make one. I'm sure you have atleast one spot open. Make one and play it for fun. If you've never played one, get ready to be amazed at what can be done.

[DutchAmerica]

Originally Posted by UMT

DutchAmerica,
If you want to really understand how to play a TUless toon, simpy make one. I'm sure you have atleast one spot open. Make one and play it for fun. If you've never played one, get ready to be amazed at what can be done.

Technically speaking, I did have a 'toonless' wonder. My VERY FIRST toon, I chose Sound. I was not given the opportunity to choose toon up again until I was in the Brrg.

It wasn't a nice feeling to have toons refuse to do thing with me because I didn't have toon up. It also felt bad when people would go sad because I couldn't help them. That's why regardless of what I am creating the first thing I get is tu. I never pass it by. But that's my choice as it it a choice for others too.

However, if a player is inexperienced and doesn't know the strategies, etc., very well, he might think twice about 'not' getting it. And if he chooses to forego toon up, I don't think they should complain that no one will help them.

[Star Spangled Bunny]

I always picked tu from day one, I wanted to be able to help others. I hate it now when I start a new toon and cant help the ones I'm with until I finish ttc. Now you see my problem is I wont bail on anyone. If they dont leave I feel I cant leave either. Once I make the choise of helping I'm in the game until I go sad or dispite my efforts anyone i'm with does.
One more thing I was just in cash vp with 8 other toons. 2 turned out to be 46 which doesnt bother me at all. I ended up with both on my side with another high toon. We had a hard time because both of these toon had small gags and didnt seem to have tu either because never once in the battle did they tune anyone including each other. So me and the other high laugh had all the tuning up responsibility Plus luring and most of the kills. We ended up coming out with less than full laugh while the ones without had full laugh. Now I dont espect to win cash vp lol but my point is that though they can contribute you never know how vp will devide you up. I would hate to end up on a side that had no other tu but mine