Group orders... TTR demoted

[Flippers]

Toons to the Rescue have been moved way down on the list, even though we're by far not the least active. I guess we should be insulted.

[Batleth]

Originally Posted by Flippers

Toons to the Rescue have been moved way down on the list, even though we're by far not the least active. I guess we should be insulted.

Insulted, nah. We just changed location of the subforum due to inactivity and it's now on a probationary status with keeping a subforum, probably.

One of the main reasons why we are so picky about giving certain clans subforums is to make sure they will continue to be active. It doesn't do anyone any good to have an inactive subforum. We do understand that things happen. Often real life will interfere with people's internet plans and many clans have problems going from a single thread to a subforum. We all hope that giving a clan a subforum will help them expand and gain recognition to continue to grow and become more popular. Often this is the case, but not always. Especially, if a clan leader becomes too busy with other things and doesn't have time to maintain their clan. The clan will soon lapse and become inactive.

This week, I had to close some subforum for clans on POF due to inactivity and loss of clan leaders. I made the location changes this week to TTC's clans so I can keep better track of the less active clans. If things don't change soon for those clans, they may loose their subforum status. I have not had the time to inform some of the clan leaders of this probationary status, but if they are reading this then consider yourself informed.

This is a new occurance on our forums as the subforums for clans have mostly been a new experience for us and has been in a trial period. I wouldn't be surprised if we come up with some basic guidelines for clans and this new structure soon.

For example, I'm receiving far too many requests for clans from their members and not the clan leaders. Frankly, only the clan leaders should be PMing me requests for their clans. I'm more than happy to hear them out and see what I can do to help. We want to help the clans and make sure everyone is having a good time here. When I get several PMs from just the members acting outside of the clan leader's knowledge, not only is it disrespectful of the clan leader who has worked so hard to form a great clan, but it's really not following the chain of command. It's just common curtesy to speak and relay all thoughts on your clan with your clan leader before requesting actions by an admin on your clan's behalf. I refuse to act on a member's request alone. I don't want to do something a clan leader is unaware of or even might not want.

So before you as a member of a clan decide to PM a mod/admin about something concerning your clan Talk whatever the matter is with your clan leader(s), then if the clan decides to proceed, have a clan leader PM a mod/admin with the concern or request. We consider those that are clan leaders as those who started the clan, actually have the clan leader's title, or someone in authority within your clan depending on your clan's management structure. Most topics concerning clans can be handled by most mods such as typical minor forum violations. Topics of subforums, adding calendars, wanting to use outside links, and other matters of this type should be addressed to myself or Dizzy.

As you can tell, the situation concerning clans and subforums for them is a growing interest of mine and we'll be making some adjustments soon.

[<Seaford>]

Originally Posted by Flippers

Toons to the Rescue have been moved way down on the list, even though we're by far not the least active. I guess we should be insulted.

ummmm i think you guys are the least active to be infact...

[Flippers]

Thanks Batleth.

That certainly is understandable. I'm sure once the admins look past statistics and filter out "me too" "can you help me" and "where is everybody" that a few will be ready for the cornfield

[Doctor Oswald Superzapper]

My goodnesss Batleth! how many smilies do you have in that message?! I'm going to save that one for future uses...

On topic, I agree with Flippers. If they can somehow get the clan running again it might be able to sustain it's sub-forum, but it would take a lot of advertising.

[Batleth]

Originally Posted by Doctor Oswald Superzapper

My goodnesss Batleth! how many smilies d oyo uh ave in that message?! I'm going to save that one for future uses...

On topic, I agree with Flippers. If they can somehow get the clan running again it might be able to sustain it's sub-forum, but it would take a lot of advertising.

An example of how to correctly use smilies to lighten up a serious post.

I'd prefer to see the subforum clan that has been inactive, revived to their former glory. Though, not a lot as a moderator that I can do to help with that without showing favortism or biased. They really have to do all the work themselves. Sometimes, just changing clan leaders to someone who is more active can do a lot for a clan. I'd rather not step in and demand leadership changes, but it has been done before. Even finding a new clan leader when the old one has become inactive has been done recently to help a clan. Guess only time will tell if those actions really helped...

[SimplyME]

I think this is good, because some clans are so un active I wonder why they have thier own forum at all....

[kid nino]

Oi, it scares me that the GTTG. Is almost at the very bottem.

[Doctor Oswald Superzapper]

Originally Posted by SimplyME

I think this is good, because some clans are so un active I wonder why they have thier own forum at all....

Well, in their glory days, they were most likely very active, but like someone has said before the clans sometimes die out after a few months because of the lack of active users coming to the events.

[Prof. Pickles McPretzel]

For example, I'm receiving far too many requests for clans from their members and not the clan leaders. Frankly, only the clan leaders should be PMing me requests for their clans. I'm more than happy to hear them out and see what I can do to help. We want to help the clans and make sure everyone is having a good time here. When I get several PMs from just the members acting outside of the clan leader's knowledge, not only is it disrespectful of the clan leader who has worked so hard to form a great clan, but it's really not following the chain of command. It's just common curtesy to speak and relay all thoughts on your clan with your clan leader before requesting actions by an admin on your clan's behalf. I refuse to act on a member's request alone. I don't want to do something a clan leader is unaware of or even might not want.

Sorry I'm being kind of Off Topic, Bat, or other mods, but do you even want requests from Clan Leaders? It seems to me just like a leader wanting a Clan Leader rank. (Even though the green is purrty. :P) I never figured that out, even with TTRH, as Members (not me and the rest of the staff) only asked, not our leader/staff. Just wondering.

[Batleth]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pickles McPretzel

Sorry I'm being kind of Off Topic, Bat, or other mods, but do you even want requests from Clan Leaders? It seems to me just like a leader wanting a Clan Leader rank. (Even though the green is purrty. :P) I never figured that out, even with TTRH, as Members (not me and the rest of the staff) only asked, not our leader/staff. Just wondering.

You're not being off topic at all. This is a general discussion of clans, subforums for them, and other related topics. I'm a little unclear of what you're asking, but I'll try anyway..lol.

Clan leaders can be the person who started the clan, a group management team, or a person with the green usertitle. Any of them are free to PM me with various requests for their clan. If you have a group management clan, I'm just assuming that you've discussed any major change requests with the whole group. If you have a single person who is in charge, I would expect that person to PM me. The typical requests I'm talking about can be from obtaining a subforum for your clan to adding additional forums for your subforum.

We normally only allow the clan's creator to have the green title and rank image. Once a clan with a subforum reaches a certain size in members (normally we look at the clan's usergroup and their thread with their membership listings), we allow additional users to have the green title and rank image. This is to help manage the clan to keep your subforum in order and looking good. We ask the original clan leader for who they wish to be additional clan leaders with them. Depending how the clan is organized, they may or may not request more clan leaders. I try to work with the clan's creator to add these other users to his leadership team. We may even pick a mod from the clan to manage their clan's subforum for typical violations and in helping keeping the subforum cleaned up.

Anyway, any major request should come from someone in the clan's management. Lately, I've been getting normal clan members sending me PM after PM requesting their clan get a subforum. So far, 100% of the time, I've already been exchanging PMs with their clan leader about that same thing. I don't like repeating myself and I don't feel that it's my job to keep the clan informed of what's going with their clan..lol It just simplifies things a bit to have a direct communications between myself and the clan leaders without a lot of other users PMing requests too.

[SimplyME]

Originally Posted by Doctor Oswald Superzapper

Well, in their glory days, they were most likely very active, but like someone has said before the clans sometimes die out after a few months because of the lack of active users coming to the events.

Well then it was before they had subforums were these "glory days" you are talking about. If thier even was any...

Because some forums have less than 20 threads, that doesnt seem like they got very far, and shouldnt when they get a new forum not be the peak of a clan?