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Old 01-26-2006, 08:00 PM
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Another possible bug?

I had not received trophies 6, 13, 16 or 19 before the new tracks opened, but I was fairly sure I was close to 100 qualifications for Rural and not too far from 100 wins on all. I was aware that there had been a bug which was preventing races on the new tracks from counting as qualifications for the first 2 rows of trophies.

On Monday, I was trading sweeps with a friend and received trophies 21, 22, 24 and 27. After all those Grand Prix, I really think I should have earned number 6. Today I did 3 more Rural races and still have not received the trophy for 100 qualifications.

Has anyone else found this problem? I will continue to trade sweeps with my friend until I have the full row of Grand Prix trophies and will report it as a bug if I do not receive any of the other trophies. It is very frustrating to not know just how many races I have already done!
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Old 01-26-2006, 08:44 PM
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I think someone else posted that grand prix tracks do not count towards regular trophies. It is not bugged
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:31 PM
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I just checked the TT News Archive, the Player's Guide and the Release Notes for both Open and Test servers, there is nothing which indicates that Grand Prix races do not count towards normal race qualifications or wins.

If someone has posted something to that effect, please link it here.

I sent in a bug report and received a reply:

Dear Toontown Guest,

Thank you for your bug report. We are so sorry to hear of your
frustration. We are sure you know we put a lot of effort and time into
adding new features to Toontown.

Unfortunately, sometimes new content can cause unexpected bugs. Please
be assured that the bug has been found and is being fixed. The next time
you race after our future update, you are sure to be awarded properly.

Again we appreciate your dedication and apologize for the inconvenience.
Thank You,

James
Disney's Toontown Online Member Services


It looks like the Grand Prix races should count towards the first two rows of trophies.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:19 AM
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thanks!

I just finally am one trophy away and its happening to me sure I am pretty sure. It is 200 AM and I should be asleep but trying to win the impossible. Pretty frustrating. I just sent in a bug report because I really think I have those 100 and saw your post.

I am pretty frustrated with this stuff right now. My problem is one thing but the 119s who should have been 120s on Friday thats just awful. I just cant stand to think how hard they worked to be first to have a bug steal their thunder.

I am not am not feeling the toon spirit tonight.

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Old 01-30-2006, 11:01 AM
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The speedway was rushed onto open with way too many bugs.
Was this because it was not fully tested on Test?

I know that once they made solo racing impossible I stopped testing.
It was just too hard for me to find anyone to race with.
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Old 01-30-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LadyVioletTwinkletoe
I just checked the TT News Archive, the Player's Guide and the Release Notes for both Open and Test servers, there is nothing which indicates that Grand Prix races do not count towards normal race qualifications or wins.

If someone has posted something to that effect, please link it here.
I still think that is not bugged, you dont expect to get a trophy for a grand prix for racing on a single circuit, why expect to get a trophy for a toon battle race for racing in a grand prix. Do what everyone else does just race the normal tracks.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:00 PM
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If we must qualify on all the tracks in order to complete a Grand Prix race, there is no reason that the individual races of the Grand Prix should not count toward the first two rows. The simple fact that we can get Best Time Records on the individual tracks while racing in Grand Prix, would also support this.

As far as the new tracks not being tested enough, I know I did race quite a bit and they did make many adjustments. These current problems were found by fully maxxed toons trying to acheive the full lp possible, and you really don't have people working to that end on Test.

Mike, if you would like to work with me on Test or Open, I have a few ideas we can test together. Perhaps racing one of my little toons on only one track until I have enough tickets for a Grand Prix, then seeing if I do get trophies for first qualifications on the other two tracks, as well as the first qualification for Grand Prix.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:26 PM
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I also think that racing for the first two rows of trophies have nothing in common with the last row. You cannot earn one of the first twenty trophies during a Grand Prix tournament.

Do this for a test if you want: Create a new Toon, get a Kart, earn tickets on practise courses until you have 500 tickets and start a Grand Prix race together with a friend who lets you win all three races. You will see, that you'll get the trophies No. 21, 24 and 27 right away. (1 Grand Prix tournament qualified, won and swept). Do one more race tomorrow (on tuesday) and you'll get a trophy on the first row, if you'll win this race, there is another one on the 2nd row.

I don't see anything wrong with this. Grand Prix racing just doesn't count for the trophies of toon battle races.

The reply you received from the support is a standard reply mail they send out to everyone who is reporting something, without really checking if it is right or not.

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Old 01-30-2006, 12:47 PM
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If anyone can provide me with proof, I'll be glad to read it. Please post a link. Otherwise, this is simply your opinion, which is opposite from the reply I received. Yes, it is very similar to replies others have received, but if the Grand Prix races were not to be counted towards the first two rows, I do think that would have been stated in the reply.

I am a (long time) Tester and have seen all sorts of replies from TT regarding bug reports, including ones which clearly state that certain things are not supposed to be able to work in a specific manner.

Until I am presented with proof stating otherwise, from Toontown, I will continue to believe that it is a bug that TT has promised to fix.

Regarding using a new toon to test this, that is exactly what I posted in my previous post.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:19 PM
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This really has little to do with your post, but I just wanted to mention...

Tink and I discussed this the other day.

I think a lot of this DOES have to do with testers.

As Mike said, whenever I tried to test racing on test, I couldnt, as there just wasn't enough people in either district to race with.

It's certain to be an unpopular opinion, but I personally think that testers who are more interested in maxing their cashbot suits than testing new content are as much if not more to blame than Disney for releasing bugged material to open. (Tink disagreed)

If they don't recieve any bug reports for over a week from test, and developers notice nothing wrong, isn't it fair for them to believe that the content is bug-free?

Like I said, this isn't necessarily what your OP was about, just wanted to throw this out there.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:36 PM
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I know that there were not many people racing on Test. I did a lot of racing on Test with another sf because we actually enjoy it, so long as no one with us is taking it too seriously. Very often we were the only ones racing. We did have to arrange our racing through our IM program to be sure we would both be there. I know that many people do not enjoy the racing, and only do it to get those lp on their main toons on Open.

It is not really off-topic because you are addressing an issue already mentioned in the thread. I do agree that the lack of extensive testing may well be part of the problem.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:55 PM
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My problem is that life interferes with my TT time.
I don't have a "regular" time that I can be on test.
I logged on every day this weekend but found no one.
It only took a few second to see that no one was racing.

I helped some toons do buildings and mints but they were building toons not testing anything. I guess people are wanting to get ready for a new HQ.

They are some great toons who have been on test for years that have not maxed their toons. This is not because that can't, it is because they focus their effort on testing not on working toons.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:34 PM
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I just checked my toon Hunny Bunny Sparkleburger; she has only raced once, on Speedway Stadium Rev, and has 2 trophies for first qual and win on that one. She had 464 tickets, and a friend just did 2 practice races with me so that I now have 504, just enough for short Grand Prix. That same friend has agreed to let me take a sweep on her, so I can test this theory later this afternoon.

I will take pics of both my records page and trophy page before and after the race. I should earn at least 3 trophies, but hopefully 7.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:21 PM
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If you are sayin its bugged then how are you going to prove anything anyway? If you dont win them you will say its bugged if you do win them it proves you can win toon battle races on grand prix.Also funny how you are the only one whose complaining and has sent in a bug report.Like i said earlier do as everyone does and race the toon battle races instead of looking for the easy way out. Being a tester you should appreciate this and not mind putting the hard work in.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:45 PM
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Why wouldn't the grand prix's count towards the first 2 rows of trophies?
If I'm racing all 3: urban, stadium and rural in a grand prix, to me it should count because there is no difference in the tracks.
My 2nd toon doesn't have enuff tickets for a grand prix, and today is the first time I've taken her to gsw to race.

I tried asking Disney in an email if the grand prix's counted towards the first 2 rows of trophies, but their reply was: "some things are better to find out on your own."

Everything else in Toontown, we have the ability to see how much more we need. My question is: why make the speedway to where we can't see?

I have no clue how many more wins and qualifies I need for all 6 the 100 wins and qualifies and no clue how many more grand prix's I need for the 25's.

It'd just be nice if we could see how many more races we needed.
 

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