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Old 09-22-2005, 09:14 PM
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Anvils: Unbalanced?

Hey,

I was just racing, but decided to take a break because I was getting a little ticked off from so many anvils and fighting. Ack!

Anyways, my guess is you have about a 30% chance of getting an anvil, 60% banana, and 10% for a turbo. And I also noticed how anvils can be the main determination of how someone places. I have recently been playing on Screwball Stadium and am usually in 1st place throughout most of it, but the last 5 or 6 times I've raced there, I've been anviled at the last second ending up in last or second to last depending on how far ahead I was, usually in last. This doesn't only happen in Screwball Stadium, but can also happen in the other race tracks.

I have been recording my results and have been making some inferences about anvils and their effect on racers.

Here are some points I'd like to state:

1) Anvils cannot be aimed. They automatically hit the person in the lead. What if someone is one lap behind everyone else and it's neck and neck between 1st and 2nd. 3rd is in between 2nd and 4th about half a lap behind. Suddenly, the person in 4th gets an anvil and fires it. That doesnt help the person in 4th at all, it just robs the person in 1st of any chance of beating the person in 2nd and possibly 3rd because of slow acceleration after being hit by an anvil.

2) Anvils are far to common compared to the power of them. It's actually quite likely to pick one up, and when you use it, you've pretty much just taken 25 seconds or more out of the person in the lead, especially if they are on a turbo.

3) Anvils should not effect turbos. If someone is on a turbo and they get hit by an anvil, which is usually what people save their anvils for, they will usually end up way behind. I think that if someone is anviled on the turbo, it has no effect.

4) Anvils should hit the person right in front of the user, not the one in the lead. What's really the point of that if the one in 1st is going to win anyways, and you just want to get in 2nd, but the anvil of course does not hit the person in 2nd, and therefore, you have no higher chance of passing them.

So, anyone agree? I'm going to forward this post to Disney...

--Stimpy
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:40 PM
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1:I think its pretty even on the odds of getting an avnil/banana/booster so that it is equal, yet it may not carry out perfect results the same as 100:300 chance of getting an anvil right away.

2:I only takes off about 2-15(30)* seconds off the time depending on where it is dropped. If it is dropped right before the 90 degree turn in city circuit, it will take about 2-4 seconds off, because you dont have to worry about dropping down so quickly when you hit the curb, the speed becomes more constant, but if it is dropped right as you go over the hill on city circuit, you can take 8-15(30) seconds off the time because you have the struggle up the hill since it brings you all the way down to zero and you miss the potential for getting a booster on the gift boxes in the air and it is over eggaterated because that is the time you loose PLUS the person who passed you who gained time because of the potential booster which keeps you farther away from first.

3: If you are in first place and you happen to pick up an anvil, you may hit control and it will drop on the person behind you. If and when the occurence happens that 2 or more people pick up anvils and drop them at the same time, the person in first place will have an anvil dropped on them, they in turn will drop the anvil on towards second place, and if they in turn did not drop the anvil and have an anvil picked up and press control, it will drop on the person in third and so on leaving 1,2,(3),(4) stopped and having to restart. So, therefore, you can aim the anvil but it is only under rare occurences that it turns out with the potential hypothesis and conclusion.
*=potential

Perhaps you should take more tests on the occurence of anvils before you submit to Disney?

Also, if you come around a turn and use a booster to power yourself through the turn, and you suddenly hit a banana, your booster is useless, and the banana affects the mantained speed that you were currrently traveling with and further slows you down. I understand this is part of the supposed thrill and strategy of the game, but should it maybe slow down the booster like hitting a curb or another kart before the booster kicks in?
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:45 PM
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Well, I think it's fine, you've just had some tough luck at the races
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:46 PM
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1:I think its pretty even on the odds of getting an avnil/banana/booster so that it is equal, yet it may not carry out perfect results the same as 100:300 chance of getting an anvil right away.

2:I only takes off about 2-15(30)* seconds off the time depending on where it is dropped. If it is dropped right before the 90 degree turn in city circuit, it will take about 2-4 seconds off, because you dont have to worry about dropping down so quickly when you hit the curb, the speed becomes more constant, but if it is dropped right as you go over the hill on city circuit, you can take 8-15(30) seconds off the time because you have the struggle up the hill since it brings you all the way down to zero and you miss the potential for getting a booster on the gift boxes in the air and it is over eggaterated because that is the time you loose PLUS the person who passed you who gained time because of the potential booster which keeps you farther away from first.

3: If you are in first place and you happen to pick up an anvil, you may hit control and it will drop on the person behind you. If and when the occurence happens that 2 or more people pick up anvils and drop them at the same time, the person in first place will have an anvil dropped on them, they in turn will drop the anvil on towards second place, and if they in turn did not drop the anvil and have an anvil picked up and press control, it will drop on the person in third and so on leaving 1,2,(3),(4) stopped and having to restart. So, therefore, you can aim the anvil but it is only under rare occurences that it turns out with the potential hypothesis and conclusion.
*=potential

Perhaps you should take more tests on the occurence of anvils before you submit to Disney?

Also, if you come around a turn and use a booster to power yourself through the turn, and you suddenly hit a banana, your booster is useless, and the banana affects the mantained speed that you were currrently traveling with and further slows you down. I understand this is part of the supposed thrill and strategy of the game, but should it maybe slow down the booster like hitting a curb or another kart before the booster kicks in?
1. It's actually not even.

2. Well, okay maybe I exagerated by a few seconds

3. Anvils don't do anything if you are in first. And there IS no way to aim them...
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:47 PM
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Well, I think it's fine, you've just had some tough luck at the races
In a way... Not really tough luck, I'm usually in first the entire race until someone anvils me But, I guess that's how Disney wanted it... Doesn't really make sense though.

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Old 09-22-2005, 09:48 PM
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pm me a secret code and i will show you how to aim the anvils.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:49 PM
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Oh, come on, you're not always first, usually 1st, 2nd, give or take 3rd. I think anvils help balance the game out.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:51 PM
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everyone says that the karts and accesories are all equal, isnt the game already balanced according to them?
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:51 PM
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Oh, come on, you're not always first, usually 1st, 2nd, give or take 3rd. I think anvils help balance the game out.
LOL. Well, I suppose I'm not in first when you race, but that's just because you 0wn GSW

But you should see me when you're not around (which isn't possible, because you can't see me if you aren't there, lol)!
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:53 PM
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2) Anvils are far to common compared to the power of them. It's actually quite likely to pick one up, and when you use it, you've pretty much just taken 25 seconds or more out of the person in the lead, especially if they are on a turbo.

So, anyone agree? I'm going to forward this post to Disney...

--Stimpy
Actually, I find turbos better, because, although anvils slow down one, turbos speed YOU UP, so you can pass most everyone in front of you. So, even though it effects you, it's much more effective for passing opponents in my opinion.

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3) Anvils should not effect turbos. If someone is on a turbo and they get hit by an anvil, which is usually what people save their anvils for, they will usually end up way behind. I think that if someone is anviled on the turbo, it has no effect.
Sigh.... Say that again the next time you win a race because of using an anvil statigicaly, like after the oponent hits a turbo. Face it, it's good for the person in last, bad for the person in first. Your outlook on how it is depends on which of the two you are.

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4) Anvils should hit the person right in front of the user, not the one in the lead. What's really the point of that if the one in 1st is going to win anyways, and you just want to get in 2nd, but the anvil of course does not hit the person in 2nd, and therefore, you have no higher chance of passing them.
Although I kind of agree with you on this, I DO want to bring back up the fact that I find turbo items are better for getting into first.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:54 PM
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Thanks, lol, but you are just as good as me, and we're always fighting for first, except for rustic, when you kill me, lol.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:55 PM
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If you are in first the anvil can still be useful. If your leading, with an anvil and someone drops an anvil on you. Use your anvil, and it will hit 2nd place person. I have tried it, and it works. Dont belive me, try it with a few friends

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Old 09-22-2005, 09:55 PM
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yea, that annoys me too i really hate it when im on a boost or like 2 inches from the finish line.. so if im in first i always hope to get a tubo so if they drop me i can just put the turbo on right away lol but i almost NEVER get turbos.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:58 PM
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Yeah, but it's not just this game that uses a "Non-avoidable item that hits first place". Mario kart uses the blue shell, which does hit immediately, but still quickly, and hit nails 1st and whoevers close by.

I think it all works out in the end, and I have no idea how many times a turbo saved my but at the end of a CC.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:12 AM
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anvils should hit everyone in the lead
 

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