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Old 05-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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Question how do they???

I was racing yesterday and this blue dog came to race me at blizzard.
I started out in the lead, he only had a cruiser. Well anyway on about the end of the 1st lap he passed me, lapped me, and got a record!!
How do toons go super fast and stay that way
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:45 PM
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I consider this a cheat

when you use it against other players that do not know it.

I personally have anviled right before a gift set, received another anvil on that gift and anviled, and then I hit a speed boost against one of these toons that has used this technique, and I DID NOT stop him nor did I catch up at all.

And from this I learned the method to slide the walls.

If you watch the video, you will notice that the front toons were never, ever anviled. Although, the third toon, who did not know the "feature" probably was dropping anvils on them, just was not dropping the anvils when the toons were not against the walls.

If you suspect that a toon is doing this against you, you can ALT F4 out on them. This might, I emphasize MIGHT, take them down with you and they will not get the victory.

But, when you do this, you will forfeit your tickets and you cause the other players to also forfeit their tickets.
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Old 05-18-2007, 07:24 AM
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watch out

there are so many cheaters just watch out.
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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hmm

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I consider this a cheat

when you use it against other players that do not know it.

So I'm guessing you also consider it a cheat when you race a new toon who doesn't know the turns and beat him/her?

Its practically the same thing, since the wallslides were intended.

Although to be honest it would probably be more fair if there were something about wallsliding in the Player's Guide. (Although I figured them out myself ).
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:37 PM
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So I'm guessing you also consider it a cheat when you race a new toon who doesn't know the turns and beat him/her?

Its practically the same thing, since the wallslides were intended.

Although to be honest it would probably be more fair if there were something about wallsliding in the Player's Guide. (Although I figured them out myself ).
Megachomp,

Actually, the way you did your comparison above is not even close to an appropriate comparison. You are comparing apples to lets say dinosaurs; waaaay out of line. You are not even close to comparing apples and oranges.

If a toon does not know how to race, its a skill issue and not a cheating issue. When a toon uses the wall to gain an advantage over a toon that is racing on the street, this IS CHEATING. The reason it's cheating is because this type of racing is outside the scope of what TT developers intended. Why are the other tracks set up to where you cant slide? Plus, what race on Earth is set up for you to race on the wall and not on the street? I've never heard of one if I might say so myself.
So, wall sliding is cheating, its like steroids for your kart.

The best thing is for TT to completely get rid of wall sliding, this would make racing equal for everyone. Plus, this would get rid of all those wall sliders that cant win without it! To be honest, a good racer would NOT need to wall slide to win a race.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:59 AM
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There are a few home made porgrams that do this. It is a much slower

version of macroing. There times are MUCH more reasonable and they go

crazy at the last lap. Therefore they cannot be reported or suspendid

becuase thier time is too slow for macroing. TT is soo easy to hack. You

cannot prevent this. Team up with a few friends and share race, the best

way to do it.


P.S. Dogfather....I liked your post, very true and had that sarcastic twang to it....funny.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:42 AM
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Actually, wall sliding was intended. They programmed the game, I'm sure they knew that sliding the walls were available. People glitch the factory for an advantage or glitch the puzzles. Wall sliding isn't glitching anything. I think Megachomps analogy was a good one. Some people know how to do things and others don't; that's like. Some are just too lazy to practice it...

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Old 05-19-2007, 05:47 AM
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Actually, wall sliding was intended. They programmed the game, I'm sure they knew that sliding the walls were available. People glitch the factory for an advantage or glitch the puzzles. Wall sliding isn't glitching anything. I think Megachomps analogy was a good one. Some people know how to do things and others don't; that's like. Some are just too lazy to practice it...

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Corny,

How can you say that toons are "too lazy to practice it...?" The toons that are lazy at practicing the tracks are the ones that cheat and slide on the walls all day long. Sliding on walls is not difficult, nor does it take any skill. Its easier to slide on the wall all day long than to race the colliseum races, LOL! Learning to manuver yourself around the track appropriately and turn at the right angles, speeds and moments is what takes skill. Sorry, but I still dont buy it.

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Old 05-19-2007, 05:53 AM
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I shouldn't have said "too lazy" but it's not just sliding on the walls. You can;t just hit a wall and automatically slide it. There's certain ways to slide it, ways to approach it, different walls that are slidable, different choices of which ways to go.

You can't just go up to any random toon and tell them to hit a wall and they will slide because they won't. It's not as easy as just hitting a wall and going fast. It's an acquired technique that needs to be learned. It's way harder than just doing the regular track.

You say it's wasier to slide on the walls than do race a coliseum race. Sliding the walls on BB rev is WAAAAY harder than that. It's not smoething that you just catch onto, it takes practice to master it.

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Old 05-19-2007, 06:52 AM
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Hey corney,

there is a difference between cheating and wall sliding. No one can confuse the two.
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:17 AM
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I use this technique

I'm not very good at it. I had gone in a race with a couple of my sfs, and they both lapped me. I got frustrated, and demanded they show me what they were doing. They took me through a practice race, going over and over the track showing me where to hit, and where not to hit. Like I said, I'm not very good at it, and I definitely can't do the track in 2 minutes, or lap anyone, but I have been able to reduce my race time by a whole minute, and win first place more often.
I [obviously] don't consider this a cheat, but I still don't use it in every race.
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:39 AM
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Sliding on walls is not difficult, nor does it take any skill. Its easier to slide on the wall all day long than to race the colliseum races

lol... Its not like you just hit a wall and its one easy path to the finish line. There are several areas that are placed strategicaly and you have to train yourself to hit certain points.

Also it sort of makes sence that they are there on the tracks like Blizzard Boulevard, because maybe the walls are covered in ice. xD (Not sure how to explain why wallsliding works on the other tracks though lol)

Lastly, maybe my comparison was a bit of a stretch, but what I tried to say was that wallslides were intended and therefore couldn't be cheating.

You can tell me that I'm wrong when you master the walls on Blizzard Boulevard Rev.
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Old 05-21-2007, 03:07 AM
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lol... Its not like you just hit a wall and its one easy path to the finish line. There are several areas that are placed strategicaly and you have to train yourself to hit certain points.

Also it sort of makes sence that they are there on the tracks like Blizzard Boulevard, because maybe the walls are covered in ice. xD (Not sure how to explain why wallsliding works on the other tracks though lol)

Lastly, maybe my comparison was a bit of a stretch, but what I tried to say was that wallslides were intended and therefore couldn't be cheating.

You can tell me that I'm wrong when you master the walls on Blizzard Boulevard Rev.
So since its only a "technique" and not a cheat, you would be more than happy to explain how its done right? Im curious now.
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:07 AM
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It's not something that can be explained through words.

The only way someone will get good at it is if someone spends hours trying to teach them on the track or if you go on the practice track and experiment ways to slide the wall and which walls, and how to slide them, etc.

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Old 05-21-2007, 04:45 AM
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It's not something that can be explained through words.

The only way someone will get good at it is if someone spends hours trying to teach them on the track or if you go on the practice track and experiment ways to slide the wall and which walls, and how to slide them, etc.

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Ahh well bummer. Was hopeing for something like "hit the wall where the fence starts" or something like that, but oh well. Guess ill have to try and figure it out on my own.
 

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