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Old 09-19-2008, 03:48 PM
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its so long I don't want to continue!

You're right,I'm a strong toon(28 laff and 3 gag tracks) but still,I need to work on DD.Too bad Im a free member.
i hear ya...i'm in the middle of drop training and now i'm out of toontasks. they all require me to visit somewhere in donalds dock...oh well

at least i'm not the only one who feels the way i do about low laff toons (they are not all careless)
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
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15-25 should take care off ttc
25-35 Donlalds dock
35-45 daisy gardens
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60-65 the brrrrgh
65-80 donalds dreamland
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:29 PM
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:57 PM
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Hey, everyone! How are ya?

First, I'd like to say thank you for reading my post. The reason I'm posting this is because I have been seeing a few things on my "shifts" here in Toontown that I think need to be pointed out. I think everyone in Toontown will say that there are some things going on here that need to be sorted out. Well, I think I have some solutions that might be able to help out here.
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Look, i'm not trying to be rude but, I myself having been playing the game for many years and When I start over I wouldn't be considered a "low toon" or a "noob" or whatever you wanna call it. Actually, probably everyday, you see over 5 low laffers who are people just like me starting over. I have started over with a rabbit, valentine, and if I decide to go to sbhq because i want to defeat a cog, yes it's risky, but everyone is there for the same exact reason. And from what you say about the lower toons in sbhq and how the high toons are there to defeat cogs, lower laffs might be there for that reason, too.
Also, you, 66 laff, is really not considered being a high toon. You're definetly on your way though. I would say 80+ is high laff. Lower laff toons can also do buildings, they aren't hurting you in anyway. Just be nice and every once in a while advise them to choose a differnt gag, or to work on their task, or even get more jellybeans! Perhaps you went into a building and this toon just got sound but YOU wanted to lure. How about you choose sound to or another gag that you wont kill or stun the cogs with so they can get points and level up like you did. You had many chances to choose the gag you wanna chose. And i'm not saying things aren't risky for lower laffs....i'm saying anything can be risky for any toon! Like a C.e.o is risky for high laffers, a llevel 6 cog is risky for like your laff 79 and under. I myself have went sad many times being a 40-70 laffer. On my toon tootsie pop you wouldn't believe how hard it was to advantage without those nice toons being thoughtful enough to go with me in buildings, vps, etc. The nice toons are one way you can even get laff! So next time your any laff, wether your 126 laff and a 55 laff wants to help let them go with you and thank them for helping you! Remember that you never know who your playing with. It could even be your relative! So be nicer and maybe help those toons because they were once just like you. A helpless noob .

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Old 09-19-2008, 06:43 PM
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15-25 should take care off ttc
25-35 Donlalds dock
35-45 daisy gardens
45-60 mml
60-65 the brrrrgh
65-80 donalds dreamland
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Donalds Dreamland takes you to 100 laff, not 80.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:10 AM
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15-25 should take care off ttc
25-35 Donlalds dock
35-45 daisy gardens
45-60 mml
60-65 the brrrrgh
65-80 donalds dreamland
80-137 cog hqs
So what about my 77 toon with all maxed gags? According to you, she should stay away from cog hqs, while I regularly see toons with over 100 laff and nowhere near maxed gags. Nevermind the fact that I probably have way more experience and strategy than most toons. Don't judge a toon by their laff.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:13 AM
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:09 AM
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Lightbulb Looking Over the Responses...

OK, everyone.

Thanks so much for the varied responses. I do truly appreciate them all very much. I like having a lot of different responses because it lets everyone know where they are coming from.

First, I do owe an apology to some that misunderstood what I was trying to say in terms of "low laffers" being in tougher neighborhoods; I was not completely clear. It's my own fault... I left this part out. If the low laff toons want to be in the playgrounds to fish or trolley... I have absolutely no problem with it. They are not hurting anyone by being there, that is true. I'm sorry if that was not clear.

In terms of battles, however, I would still prefer the higher laff toons that have variety in their gags by my side in the tougher neighborhoods. It is true that there are some "low laffers" with very high gags... I've seem them myself. At this time, I don't believe that it's a good strategy to take one of these Toons into a tough building with me in terms of teamwork. Yes, these Toons are powerful, but one Cog attack and they are sent back to the playground. Those high-level gags mean nothing if they can't be used and that Toon gains nothing if they become sad in the building.


I know that some players use their "low laffers" as a tool to test the skills of the other Toons. I think that it's a great idea to have Toons test their skills, but not at the expense of the sadness of other Toons. Perhaps there's something here that can be used to submit to Toontown as a... subquest, if you will. LOL "Let's work together!"


There was a question asked about a 28 laffer on a "freebie" account asking if they would be considered a "low laffer". I think that's a matter of perspective. Regardless of whether it's a freebie or not, I am going by the laff and the skill set. To see a 28 laffer with Level 3 or 4 gags going against the Cogs in ToonTown Central... no problem at all. The same Toon in DreamLand... I'd be concerned.

Thanks again, everyone!
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:46 AM
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I can kinda see the OP's point about lower laff toons considering staying in the easier areas. I keep reading here that it doesn't hurt anyone....
Maybe low laffers do not realize that going into a 5 level buildings, mints, DA offices and the boss courses does put the higher laff toons you are going with at risk.
Even if you are an uber one hit, especially in the boss courses, you are done. Then what is the higher laff left with? Uncertain completion of the course with three toons and risk of going sad and losing the 7th level gags.

Recently I needed some jury notices, not allot so I thought maybe the first DA elevator. Of course when I got there, there were 4 or 5 low laffers around the elevator. They all in unison ran up to me with 2 or three whispers for help.
So I thought ok. I ran into the elevator, three other got on with me. As soon as we get in there two of them bail. The one that stuck around, we fought one battle then I said lets go back to the playground. And we did.

With this same toon I decided that maybe buildings would be easier to get my few jury notices. So I went scouring Polar Place. Out of five buildings, again going in with lower laff toons, ONE of them all four toons survived. The rest was two, me and one other toon.
These kind of scenarios does not give me much faith in helping lower laff toons, but thats just me.

The sellbot fac is a different story. I solo that allot because I want to get through it quickly. But if I want to take my time I welcome any laff to come in with me. I just hope you take my advice as a seasoned toon and not run off on your own. If you run out of the elevator at the last second, eh no biggie.

About the VP. I prefer to go in with toons who know what they are doing and they must have full gags (excluding 7th level) But if I am only one of the few in there and a toon or two does something foolish like using a low level sound on a lured cog, or some such, IMO that messes up the whole battle. This happens all the time.

Low laff gets hit after using a low gag on a lured cog.
Cog survives, targets the toon that hit him.
Hits the low laff toon.
The low laff wants or needs a toon up.
I use toon up.
Low laff uses a low gag again,
repeat

and then it just keeps happening. So I am there in this group, I have high gags willing and ready to use, but I cannot because I am tuning up the entire battle.

The lure sound thing I do think is fine to use in the right situation. Say you have a team were one member does not have sound. I think it is great to use lure so the sounders can finish off the cogs.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:22 AM
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I've learned a lot by reading posts on this site. I just started playing about two weeks ago, subscribing (who knew you could freebie to laff 33??) and with my limited expertise including my own running around to every "cloud" on my map when i was a weeeeee 15 laffer (lol so you prob saw me then too, i hate "not knowing" what the clouds hid), I agree that i quickly learned where I could go and where I should avoid, for a long while.
My main, Little Peaches Purpleberry, is now a comfy 54 laff (I say comfy cuz I'm high enough to help lowbies and high enough to be help to high-bies) I now have to work on finishing my cogs radar page, and building up my gags (going trapless, working on getting my final gag, Lure) from their measly levels 3s and 4s. Anyways before I become as long winded as you (OP) haha I wanted to say you did have some good points and us New toons (hehe, newton right?) do eventually learn how to "get with the program" so to speak.
Anyways great post! And I loved all the mixed replies!

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Old 09-20-2008, 11:31 AM
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15-25 should take care off ttc
25-35 Donlalds dock
35-45 daisy gardens
45-60 mml
60-65 the brrrrgh
65-80 donalds dreamland
80-137 cog hqs
Eh, I kind of disagree with this. I'm a 28 laffer and I fight Moneybags at Cashbot HQ with 1 or 2 toons sometimes. Donald's Dock appears to me as not very fun (Except for that boat in the playground-whee xD) I also fight cogs at Minnie's ML, and rarely in the Brrgh.
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:03 PM
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I guess if I was only 66 laff like the OP then I would want higher laff toons by my side with good gags too. Honestly, a 66 laffer is far from high laff so it must make the OP feel better knowing he has a better chance in those 5 stories. At that laff it would be kind of difficult going in to a 5 story law or boss building with 3 other lower( as in lower laff then he) laffers that have low gags.
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Old 09-20-2008, 04:57 PM
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I'm really sorry to post this, but, I just let them die.

I'm not going to waste my time healing them every time a cog attacks.

I think it was a dumb idea to let people who don't subscribe into these other playgrounds, there's more lag, and it's just annoying.

My opinion, they should've just let them visit each playground once, then be teleported back to TTC. They can't leave the playground after that.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:13 PM
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I'm really sorry to post this, but, I just let them die.

I'm not going to waste my time healing them every time a cog attacks.

I think it was a dumb idea to let people who don't subscribe into these other playgrounds, there's more lag, and it's just annoying.

My opinion, they should've just let them visit each playground once, then be teleported back to TTC. They can't leave the playground after that.
wow...that's harsh...

although i do see where you are coming from because there are a lot of irresponsible newbie toons that make gameplay (especially in the tougher playgrounds and cog HQ) more unpleasant.

but i'm a freebie and i like to fight cogs in sellbot HQ (playground area only obviously) and in donalds dock and in daisy gardens and i try hard not to let the higher laffers down or get them in trouble...i'm glad i can fight cogs in the other areas...and this way i can build up my gags as far as i can for free and then maybe i will subscribe to play the rest
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:27 PM
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I'm really sorry to post this, but, I just let them die.

I'm not going to waste my time healing them every time a cog attacks.

I think it was a dumb idea to let people who don't subscribe into these other playgrounds, there's more lag, and it's just annoying.

My opinion, they should've just let them visit each playground once, then be teleported back to TTC. They can't leave the playground after that.
How many higher laff subscribing toons spend a lot of their time fighting cogs on the street? And even if they did, street battles are not very difficult, if the high laff can handle the cog they chose on the street there is no reason the low laff can't handle it with them. People who are unsubscribed cannot go into any building outside of TTC which means no cog buildings. SO the low laff toons you see trying to get into the big cog buildings with the higher laffs are not unsubscribed toons. They are just brand new subscribed toons who dont' know any better. So placing the unsibscribers only in TTC won't help you out much.
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