Why are so many toons so doggone mean?

[Silly Z.Z. Purpleton]

When I first started Toontown it seemed like a really nice place. The other toons around me were helpful and friendly. It was a lot of fun. I still have some good friends I play with. The game is still fun. But what's with the growing attitude problem as you start to move up to the higher ranks. People get way too upset much too easily. It can really be annoying. People getting upset and yelling "You Stink!" just because someone's pie happens to take out a cog they were trying to drop on. As if they're never going to get to train that drop again. So it cost you 5 drop points. Is that worth being rude over? Can you be sure they did that on purpose? Maybe they didn't see you pick trap before they picked pie instead of lure. Is it the end of the world because you lost your trap when their pie took out the cog? Hardly. So why tell them they stink or growl at them because of it? I usually apologize when I make a mistake like that. Some Toons say "You Stink" anyway. Things happen. Nobody is the leader. When you say "I'm going to use lure" it doesn't mean everyone has to follow your lead. Maybe they have other ideas. Now it is very rude for someone to use sound to destroy a lure and I have gotten upset about it myself when someone keeps doing it over and over. Like you say "Don't use sound with Lure" and they say "OK" and then do it anyway. That's going to tick anyone off but there are just too many instances of flat out rudeness. For example I had left my character standing in a playground while I stepped out for something and when I came back there were two toons standing there telling me I stink. One of them had asked me to be friends. They kept growling at me and stuff. I hadn't even been there. People ask me to be friends and I say no and get "You stink". I can't be friends with everyone. Nobody can. Some are going to get turned down. Just take it easy. Go with the flow in buildings. If you want to train lure and everyone else wants to use sound just do it or use something else. I've found that you do enough buildings to train everything eventually and you can only go so high with the stuff anyway. After 9999 it all stops and is meaningless I guess. I'll tell you what. I'll go out of my way to help you if you're my friend. I probably spend more time helping others than I do working on my own tasks. But if I've helped you like that and you turn and tell me I stink for some petty reason, you are coming off my friends list for sure. I've already dropped a few people for that very reason. I won't hesitate. You guys all assume that all the upper toons are grown ups or older teens but I have a 9 year old daughter who is approaching 60 laff and she's starting to see the bad side of Toontown. It's really a shame and it's something nobody should have to deal with. Yea I guess it's just life and reflects society but it's really a shame and I guess I just felt like venting. Have fun in Toontown and try, just try to get along. It's not life or death people.

[DutchAmerica]

Thing is you can actually train lure and sound together, as well as toon up.

One round toons lure, next round sound, Then lure again, and so on. If a cog get you, just toon up?

It's not really that big a deal. But it is right obnoxious when they sound and lure on the same round.

[Melody Poodlebee]

I agree that people should chill, my son is 11 and is on 60 laff points too. Because he doesn't follow along with other people all the time he is told he stinks and to go away. This hurts his feelings, he's not an adult and has at times been brought to tears by mean hurtful adults. This is a kids game not an adults game if you want an adult game there are other online realty games you can play so this game that is supposed to be friendly and fun is kept that way for kids. You are adults and should act that way. Don't stand in the water while people are fishing blocking the circles. Don't push people off the sidewalk onto the roads if there away for a moment. The most annoying thing people do that I wish could be stopped is when you get to Sellbot HQ and you get on the elevator someone waits til the number is at 1 and hops off or four people are on the elevator and make it to the top and then they leave and go to the playground. If you get on the elevator stay and play there are kids wanting to complete tasks and you so called adults think it's funny. Grow up and think how your child feels when it happens to them.

[X101]

well,you need to give those poor toons a chance,they dont realize its being mean,let them learn from their mistakes,thats the way to do it,i mean,thats how you all probably learned,is from your mistakes

[Melody Poodlebee]

No, it's not a matter of giving a new toon a chance, it's not the new toons that are mean. And it's not a matter of a mistake, they know what they are doing. I didn't make a mistake I know what to say and what is mean. Try another theory.

[Pirate Huntress]

Originally Posted by Melody Poodlebee

I agree that people should chill, my son is 11 and is on 60 laff points too. Because he doesn't follow along with other people all the time he is told he stinks and to go away. This hurts his feelings, he's not an adult and has at times been brought to tears by mean hurtful adults. This is a kids game not an adults game if you want an adult game there are other online realty games you can play so this game that is supposed to be friendly and fun is kept that way for kids. You are adults and should act that way. Don't stand in the water while people are fishing blocking the circles. Don't push people off the sidewalk onto the roads if there away for a moment. The most annoying thing people do that I wish could be stopped is when you get to Sellbot HQ and you get on the elevator someone waits til the number is at 1 and hops off or four people are on the elevator and make it to the top and then they leave and go to the playground. If you get on the elevator stay and play there are kids wanting to complete tasks and you so called adults think it's funny. Grow up and think how your child feels when it happens to them.

Yeah, but I have some adult sfs and they are NICE to me, and I mean N I C E, they're really cool but they rarely come online which sorta bugs me. (*AHEM* Me is refering to... well, you know who you are )

It's fun to push people off the sidewalk, but I push them to the other side to see if they noticed, lol. And reality games stink!

The only thing that REALLY, I mean REALLY gets on my nerves is when I am on the verge of death and I am screaming for help and no one will come to rescue me! AND THE WHOLE PLACE IS CROWDED WITH PEOPL! OMG (gosh, not god), it's so rude! The place is flooded with people, I am DYING and I need that for my tasks and people just ignore me! I'M SO FED UP WITH THIS GARABAGE! I DIDN'T GET TO COMPLETE A TASK BECAUSE NO ONE WAS NICE ENOUGH TO LEND A STUPID HAND TO HELP ME!

[Bongo M. Monkey]

Originally Posted by Melody Poodlebee

I agree that people should chill, my son is 11 and is on 60 laff points too. Because he doesn't follow along with other people all the time he is told he stinks and to go away. This hurts his feelings, he's not an adult and has at times been brought to tears by mean hurtful adults. This is a kids game not an adults game if you want an adult game there are other online realty games you can play so this game that is supposed to be friendly and fun is kept that way for kids. You are adults and should act that way. Don't stand in the water while people are fishing blocking the circles. Don't push people off the sidewalk onto the roads if there away for a moment. The most annoying thing people do that I wish could be stopped is when you get to Sellbot HQ and you get on the elevator someone waits til the number is at 1 and hops off or four people are on the elevator and make it to the top and then they leave and go to the playground. If you get on the elevator stay and play there are kids wanting to complete tasks and you so called adults think it's funny. Grow up and think how your child feels when it happens to them.

I'm thinking that if adults are behaving that way, then they really need to find something else to do besides play this game. I would never think that an adult would behave in such a way. Whenever I see rude or childish behavior in this game, I always assume it's a child or adolescent teenager. Like pushing other players' toons in the street or elevators when they are sleeping...come on now, is that really necessary? But then again, I'm sure that there are adults out there that do such things and I really am disturbed by that thought. I play this game because it's pure fun and it makes me laugh! Having fun at the expense of others is nothing but school yard immaturity. I know that there's not much to lose for the toon that's getting picked on, but still, i'm sure it doesn't make the player behind the toon feel very good.

[King Beany]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

Thing is you can actually train lure and sound together, as well as toon up.

One round toons lure, next round sound, Then lure again, and so on. If a cog get you, just toon up?

It's not really that big a deal. But it is right obnoxious when they sound and lure on the same round.

Actually using lure and sound during the same round is great. One person lures and gets credit for lure - the next toon sounds the lured cog and will hit 100% of the time for credit, and this knocks him back so that he can get lured again. Then rinse & repeat. If you have a 3rd toon who is training toonup, then you have a perfect group. Go to the top of a 4 or 5 story building and watch the gag points add up

This should only be done with friends who all agree to the strategy, otherwise it might make for some sticky situations
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[DutchAmerica]

But the person sounding gets penalized for it?


And for the other posters:
It isn't necessarily nice to blame other toons for your kids getting upset about the 'happenings' in the headquarters. As for little kids, my son used to get fairly upset when things would happen in the hqtrs. I had to sit down with him and look at his gags and laff levels and explained to him about 'developing' his toon and then going back to hqtrs. I also had to explain to him that IF he was going to take his little toons there and IF he got upset about it, I would take the game away for a few days until he learned that it was just only a game.

He wasn't happy with idea that he might have to get his toon stronger, but he's doing it. Don't get me wrong, he does do the fac every now and then when one of his bigger friends invites him to do it.

And BTW, I did catch him push a toon off into the street. He was not a happy camper when I MADE him stay there and protect the toon until he could push it back onto the curb. I can't tell you how many times he would destroy cogs, toon up the sleeping toon, do the dance and push like crazy just to start over again. BUT he did get him back onto the curb. I don't even know if the toon was aware that it had occurred.

[Silly Z.Z. Purpleton]

Well that's the thing. I'm not talking about using lure and sound to train. That's ok in some buildings or if you have a group of bigger toons and can afford the hit you're going to get. But when you have a group that is just trying to survive and someone is breaking the lure and causing the group problems then it's just meanness.

[DutchAmerica]

Hmm, you don't need a big group to do sound/lure training in a building well, maybe in a Dreamland building but hey that's toonicide anyway for training.

You lure and knock out all but the highest count on the floor and then you sound/lure/tu. It's not really that hard to do.

[King Beany]

Originally Posted by Silly Z.Z. Purpleton

Well that's the thing. I'm not talking about using lure and sound to train. That's ok in some buildings or if you have a group of bigger toons and can afford the hit you're going to get. But when you have a group that is just trying to survive and someone is breaking the lure and causing the group problems then it's just meanness.

You are absolutely right. My post was more related to training gags than battling with strangers. Although, the one doing the sounding and breaking the lure is usually (not always though) the one getting the brunt of the cog hits. It usually doesn't take too long before they figure out that they should stop sounding, especially if a round goes by without toonup
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[Silly Z.Z. Purpleton]

Ok the sound/lure thing was just one example anyway and not the topic of discussion. Sure there are times when it's ok. I do realize that and am not against it by any means. But everyone knows when it's just being done to be obnoxious. My topic was about overall meanness not just lure breaking. It's about thinking about others and playing nicely. It's a fun game and a nice diversion and people seem to take it way too seriously at times. And yes there are built in methods that punish people for certain acts of unkindness such as lure breaking. But there are things like getting up in another toons face and telling them they stink for no reason over and over that are completely uncalled for. My daughter experienced this last night. She's a mid 50's laffer and was helping a friend when a new 17 laff toon shows up and starts following them around whispering to my daughter that she stinks and telling her to go away. What was that all about? Who knows? All I know is that it was very rude and uncalled for. I would like to see less of that type of behavior in Toontown.

[Salty Fiddlejinks]

Originally Posted by Melody Poodlebee

The most annoying thing people do that I wish could be stopped is when you get to Sellbot HQ and you get on the elevator someone waits til the number is at 1 and hops off or four people are on the elevator and make it to the top and then they leave and go to the playground. If you get on the elevator stay and play there are kids wanting to complete tasks and you so called adults think it's funny. Grow up and think how your child feels when it happens to them.

Ack! The elevator jumpers are epidemic now. The first time I saw a building jumper was about a month ago while working my toon Wendy thru the Brrgh. We never used to see this kind of thing. She went in to a bldg with all strangers and one toon was after some shoes from Holly's. After he got them on the first or second floor, he said "I need to return some shoes," "I need to go." And then he left, leaving us to finish on our own. I was shocked! I wanted to stink him when I saw him again standing outside another bldg., waiting for other toons to help (but restrained myself). It didn't take long for several others to show up to help him. They had no idea what kind of a friend they had, and were helping.

The VP lobby is even worse! Now just about every time I go in there I see some big suited toon (It's been the Minglers and Hollys) clearing the lobby of Cold Callers by enticing them on the elevator, then either jumping off at 1 or alting out when the doors close. However my toons do not do that and they will hang in there with 6 or 7 other Cold Callers, if need be. When some bozo does this, they leave a group of mostly inexperienced toons short handed. I am confident that several of these battles I’ve been in would have been won, had we gone in with a full load of toons. If any of you jerks are reading this, please stop it and give your space to another Cold Caller, who has more integrity than you do (you big coward). Ok, I'm done venting too. Thanks. Phew!

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

And BTW, I did catch him push a toon off into the street. He was not a happy camper when I MADE him stay there and protect the toon until he could push it back onto the curb. I can't tell you how many times he would destroy cogs, toon up the sleeping toon, do the dance and push like crazy just to start over again. BUT he did get him back onto the curb. I don't even know if the toon was aware that it had occurred.

Way to go Dutch! for taking a "teachable moment" with your son and turning it into a lesson on good citizenship and taking responsibility for your actions. Good job! Too bad there aren't more parents like you overseeing their kids in Toontown.

[dottie palepop]

I agree with and have seen many of these mean toons myself. It hasnt gotten to the point that, when playing in Donalds Dreamland with my friends and they go AFK after a building is rescued, that I stay with them till they come back. If I dont then they get pushed out in the street and go sad or near sad before I get backto them. If I am in bad need of gags I have sometime pushed them close as possible to the building or even inside the building where they will be safe. I tell you I'd rather be looking for our next building to defeat but instead, because of these toons, I can't.

I try to make myself available to help people out when things like this happen to other toons. There is just so much of it though who can keep up. Please play nice and play fair. This is after all a game. I wish that Disney wouldnt allow a toon to move, unless initiated by the owner of said toon, if they are in sleep mode. That would help!