Open Server: April 05, 2005 [sv1.0.15.25]

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by Queenladybug

:*( that stinks!!!

What stinks? The fact that self-serving clods can no longer stiff people once their selfish needs have been met?? What immediately comes to my mind is:

[Lemongoose]

What annoyed me was, if they did not plan to go all the way through, why not just go to a empty district, and go in on your own, so at least you wont ruin my fun

[Lady Freckles]

Snick,

I checked LFF - HW30 and she had 8/5500 merits before update and STILL has the same showing. Seems to have updated for some and not for others....

As for Bucks...she is RB47 and dropped from 8900 to 3140 - one run through the Bullion and she was ready as she had a couple of runs already done. What's funny though is Sqweaky is about to promo to Loan Shark and she needed more Bucks than the RB47 - 3400.

Originally Posted by Snickerdoodle Dog

Mine did that too. The Shticker book for my Holly 20 and Holly 12 still shows 0/5500. My Holly 21 had earned some merits before the release and the book now shows full merits. I sent in a bug report about the two toons that didn't update.

I'm going to see what happens when I actually earn merits for these two toons to see if it updates.

[Dawggie]

Originally Posted by Snickerdoodle Dog

Mine did that too. The Shticker book for my Holly 20 and Holly 12 still shows 0/5500. My Holly 21 had earned some merits before the release and the book now shows full merits. I sent in a bug report about the two toons that didn't update.

I'm going to see what happens when I actually earn merits for these two toons to see if it updates.

Hey Snick!

This happened to me on test with my Hollys that didnt have merits completed before the update. The response i got from Disney was that if you didnt get adjusted, then you would have to complete the merits/cogbucks for that toon. Once you have completed the merits/cogbucks, then your toons' requirement for the next promo will be the newly adjusted number. I tested this and sure enough its true. However, this does not lessen the fact that some toons were adjusted with the update and some were totally screwed! 5500 merits equates to 28 and 1/2 factory runs.

To prepare for this, I made sure merits for all my Hollys on open were completed before this dreaded updated.

With the new merits decreased from 531 to 194 for a full run, it'll be a long and grueling process. Personally, I divided that task into a 10 day project by trying to do 3 full runs a day. Otherwise, I probably would have quit from boredom.

As others have posted... Big 5 story sells in DDL will definately yield higer than 194 merits. I was only able to find a small 5 story on test and that gave me 181 merits. Forget about doing the 4 story sells, as you'll get less than 100 merits.

Good Luck and have fun!

[Charmmy Kitty]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

What stinks? The fact that self-serving clods can no longer stiff people once their selfish needs have been met?? What immediately comes to my mind is:

ok? im talking about when your doing like the factory by urself and you get all your merits o_0

[Snickerdoodle Dog]

Originally Posted by Dawggie

Hey Snick!

This happened to me on test with my Hollys that didnt have merits completed before the update. The response i got from Disney was that if you didnt get adjusted, then you would have to complete the merits/cogbucks for that toon. Once you have completed the merits/cogbucks, then your toons' requirement for the next promo will be the newly adjusted number. I tested this and sure enough its true. However, this does not lessen the fact that some toons were adjusted with the update and some were totally screwed! 5500 merits equates to 28 and 1/2 factory runs.

To prepare for this, I made sure merits for all my Hollys on open were completed before this dreaded updated...

Good Luck and have fun!

Howdy Dawggie!!!

LOL. All I managed to do on open is make sure my toons had recovered their Sellbot suit PARTS. Heh heh. Oh well.

[Dawggie]

Originally Posted by Snickerdoodle Dog

Howdy Dawggie!!!

LOL. All I managed to do on open is make sure my toons had recovered their Sellbot suit PARTS. Heh heh. Oh well.

All i have to say then is YIKES!

[Sebastian44]

It's not entirely true that finishing your current merits/bucks will fix everything. I came on to find that my merits were full. I ran the vp and when I finished, I needed 2150 merits for next level (Now, i'm Hollywood 28). My friend did the same as me and when finished, she needed 1100 merits and she is a Hollywood 35.

Still have not seen a good explanation for the descrepancies. Explaining this may be like explaining our tax laws.

[Dawggie]

Originally Posted by Sebastian44

It's not entirely true that finishing your current merits/bucks will fix everything. I came on to find that my merits were full. I ran the vp and when I finished, I needed 2150 merits for next level (Now, i'm Hollywood 28). My friend did the same as me and when finished, she needed 1100 merits and she is a Hollywood 35.

Still have not seen a good explanation for the descrepancies. Explaining this may be like explaining our tax laws.

Try this thread.... NEW HW merits????

[Prof Dizzy Snorkelfo]

There is a post in the Cog HQ forum about the merit/buck system. It appears the the merits/bucks increase up to the laff boost levels and then drop down again after the promotion that awards the laff boost therefore, At 15, you would need less merits/bucks then at 14. Again, look at the data in the Cog HQ forum.
Also, in that same thread, some people have found that they still require the old amount of merits/bucks and have sent in bug reports and next time in have found thier toons corrected to the new merit/buck system. Therefore, send in a bug report if you still show 5500 merits or 8900 bucks for promotions lower then 49/50. Also, please help put the list together there so we can have an accurate idea of promotion costs.
Thanks...... Happy ToonTowning.

[Good Ol Moe Toppenchomp]

Woo hoo! This is great, no more ditching, and we get the washroom key, w00t!

[DLite]

Ok I did a test with the Sellbot factory run receiving 194 merits no matter what route you took.

Two Toon went into a 5 story Sellbot Building in DDL. Here are the results.

floor 1 - 9.10
floor 2 - 9.9.10
floor 3 - 9.10.11.11
floor 4 - 9.9.11.11.11
floor 5 - 12.11.10.10.10.9.11.11

Total merits earned at finish was 282 merits

After doing this building, I went back to Sellbot factory with only getting 88 more merits for this 5 level. To me it is not worth the effort to look for buildings and have higher level cogs, and it takes more time in a building then Factory (I can solo Factory).

Hope this info helps you all.

Cheers,
Dlite

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

If you have time; do you think you could do this: Go into a 5 storey Sellbot and tell us the number and level of cogs on each floor and tell us how many merits you got in the end?

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by DLite

After doing this building, I went back to Sellbot factory with only getting 88 more merits for this 5 level. To me it is not worth the effort to look for buildings and have higher level cogs, and it takes more time in a building then Factory (I can solo Factory).
Cheers,
Dlite

Rats! Thanks a million! I completely agree; not even close to being worth all the added effort for 88 measly merits.

[Sally Kat]

Hmmm...
I kind of thought that they were trying to drive us big toons out to the streets doing buildings again, making them more attractive by a big building actually awarding more merits over the factory.
Only 88 though. Yeesh.

So, it looks to me like instead of getting big toons back out on the streets, they're driving us back to the factory to solo. I've been soloing sellbothq too because it goes faster that way. Not that I'm antisocial, I like taking along little toons, but it does slow you down and with that many merits to do, speed counts now.

Looks like all the big toons are going to disappear from sellbot since they will be soloing now...which I think a few of us have already discovered is the easiest way to go.

[Dawggie]

Originally Posted by DLite

Ok I did a test with the Sellbot factory run receiving 194 merits no matter what route you took.

Two Toon went into a 5 story Sellbot Building in DDL. Here are the results.

floor 1 - 9.10
floor 2 - 9.9.10
floor 3 - 9.10.11.11
floor 4 - 9.9.11.11.11
floor 5 - 12.11.10.10.10.9.11.11

Total merits earned at finish was 282 merits

After doing this building, I went back to Sellbot factory with only getting 88 more merits for this 5 level. To me it is not worth the effort to look for buildings and have higher level cogs, and it takes more time in a building then Factory (I can solo Factory).

Hope this info helps you all.

Cheers,
Dlite

I agree that the time looking for a 5 story sell bldg in DDL can be quite time consuming. However, those 88 additional merits (thats 45% more merits than a full factory run) for a relatively easy 5 story is definately worth the effort.

I'm quite sure that a 5 story with higher level cogs will yield well over 300 merits easily. Although I wouldn't spend any significant amount of time searching for 5 story sells in DDL, I would probably be willing to detour to DDL to get gags after a factory run and check Lullaby Lane for sell buildings using the radar. And if i see some rather large sellbot cogs roaming the streets, then maybe I'd run down street to check out the level of the sell buildings.

I can foresee a situation where 5 story sell buildings will be few and far between in the near future as higher suited Hollys gobble them up for merits, thus leaving the toons working the Brrgggh to look elsewhere to get their minglers and recovery items from Hollywoods. This is just another catch 22 Disney has created and will have to somehow resolve once again.

Quite honestly, I only see this update as helping the Holly 50 and any Hollywoods that are now required to get less than 2000 merits for their next promotion. Any Hollywood level toon that is required to get any more than 2000 merits will be required to complete more factory runs than the old system with 5500 merits. With the old system requiring 5500 merits, it took 10 full runs and a partial to complete merits. Under the new system, if you are required to get 2000 merits, you will still have to complete 10 full runs plus a short run. The key word here is "complete". No more merits for aborted runs.

So, are we really getting off easier? I suppose that question will be answered soon when we finally figure out what the merit requirements are for the different Hollywood levels.