Was that really the CCG?

[LucyLu]

I can't name names, so I will just ask: If you (anyone reading this) were (was) in Nutty Hills at 3 pm eastern Sunday in the VP lobby, were you there as member of CCG? Because though the lobby was full, I could not get a party to board with me. "Are you new here?", and "I think this is risky for you" is what I heard. I am 65 laff and CC2. More than adequate to raid with the CCG if I remember the charter correctly... Oh that's right! I helped create the charter! I think I would remember that clearly.

OK, I am a little miffed. I must have been too late to catch the CCG. Those toons must have been there by coincindence, right? Unless in my absence the CCG has become a means for folks to easily find a VP party, and not a group that helps CCs and mid laughers fight the VP.

Tell me that I am mistaken, please!

[WizardHawk]

I went in just before noon straight up (pacific time) and saw one elevator load before I got to the stairs. We loaded right behind it with no shuffle or attacks on any toons seen. Three were cold callers on our run. Sorry you had issues, but that is not the norm for CCG runs. Must have been a few non CCG members in the lobby when you were there. That is why we recently moved to nutty hills in the first place, to get away from some of the toons that were hunting the CCG runs for greif.

[UMT]

I got there around 3pm. When I arrived, there were a few odd things going on. After the elevator loaded for the first time (that I saw), the elevator I boarded went off without a hitch. There was a toon who hopped off, and a CC got on. Then the CC got off, and the initial toon jumped back on. I didn't think twice about it, because there was only 1 CC on, and I thought the bigger suit jumped off to make room for another CC. When the CC hopped off, the bigger toon just jumped back on to fill the spot.

When I first got there and saw what was going on, I left to check to make sure I was in the correct district. I guess those things are bound to happen.

[LucyLu]

Well, I went out of SBHQ and talked to a couple of guild friends. One suggested that I try to go again. I did, and with some trouble, and some rudeness (on other toons part, not mine! ) I got into a party of eight (at around 3:40) and we all won. I got a screenie. Can anyone spot any guilders in this pic? (Oh, wait...I snapped it on the other computer. I will post it later) I don't know if I was with CCG or random toons. Once the battle started they treated me well and pied me to keep me smiling, so it was a good group over all. At the end of the fight, one toon kept telling me that I stink, and I don't know why. I have the speed chat "Take it easy" which is all I said.

I hope that folks reading this will abide by the charter and ride with CC1s and mid-laffers. I will. I did. My last trip in was aj's first trip in, and there were 3 mid laffers in that party including me. We did loose one, but it wasn't due to his error, but due to another toon's, let's say, faux pas.

If you are going to use the CCG schedule, please use the CCG guidelines.

Okay, I have said enuff. Now go get that VEEP!

[Big Daddy]

Hey there AJ.

I too was there and witnessed what you stated. This is the first time in 8 CCG runs that I've ever seen such a thing. These were all high laff high suit cogs doing this to us. I purposely loaded the elevator at one point to see if it would cause any problems (CC5) and they quickly got off.

Based on my past experience, I can only hope that these were not CCG regulars. It was about 40 minutes prior to the scheduled time, so I'm gonna believe that's what happened.

[smtx26]

I'm sorry to say this, but I noticed this as well at tonight's scheduled run time. We showed up at 830pm (Central) .. about 30 min early... just in case, and there was some serious elevator shuffling. I suspect that it was because of a particular mid-laffer that was there, but I can't know for sure. We thought that it was probably just non-CCG people, since we were early.... but I know of *at least* one toon that was there from the CCG members list. As a matter of fact, I got sent up by myself one time (I hit alt-f4 as soon as I saw the doors closing) because of this shuffle!

What is going on??? I mean.. geez.. If it's a known griefer, or just someone who intentionally tries to make trouble on the runs, perhaps the name/appearance/ect should be made known to the other members of CCG so that we don't look so bad when this shuffling begins. (Although, I was under the impression that the no shuffling rule said we had to stay on once we got on, even if it meant needing to alt-f4 because we got sent up alone...)


Hmm.. oh well..I'll post the results from the run we just completed in a little while... hubby wants to run the factory to get his toon ready for another vp run tomorrow or the next day.

[UMT]

I don't think I was with the CCG on a run tonigh around 9:30/9:40 EST. When I showed up there was a 105laffer Two Face Level 8 that was telling people to go away, and that things were to risky for them. I stood in his face the entire time saying things like "Bye" & "Have a nice Day". Things were all messed up. Some of the group I ended up going in with didn't have a clue to what they were doing. Attacks were all over the place, and nothing made sense. I ended up using 22 level 6 gags, and all my cream pies. I usually leave a VP battle with almost all of those gags when I've run with the CCG. Twice I had a 2 high laffers (100+) use Sound against Lured big cogs. I ended up bringing my 59laffer behind the VP towards the end of the battle to stun. No one else seemed to know how to do it. That's when I noticed two toons standing up by the cage doing nothing. I bet we threw pies for close to 15 minutes before I finally went sad due to lag and not jumping at the right times.

I think I'm going to start showing up late. Maybe I can catch the end group. By that time maybe the griefers will be gone.

[jimtoon]

I was definately with the coldcallers tonight and there was lots of shuffle. It took at least 4 attempts before we got an elevator loaded. I don't know what the problem is lately but, it sure is frustrating!

[ZanyMega]

For those members of the CCG who like me make every attempt to show up on a regular basis (no matter how grueling the factory runs may be), and follow the rules, it is frustrating to read a thread like this. Come on, everyone, we've worked too hard to make this an awesome and admirable group. While you may not want to post these names publicly, we need to know if these are CCG members. Because, if they are, we need to take some action. If not, we need to create some other means of grouping ourselves, no matter the district, so this doesn't become a regular experience for our members or those planning to join us. It's frustrating to everyone and shouldn't be an experience of the CC's or low laffers who join us. It's completely against our mission. So, let's stop pussy-footing around and try to find a solution, ok?

I'd suggest that rather than meeting at the top of stairs, maybe we should meet in the middle of the floor and coordinate groups for the elevator from there by using a means of sectioning off into groups of eight on the floor and walking to the elevator together. Ok, lame idea, just thinking out loud, but there's got to be a way to make this work.

Zany Megahopper

[Weird Stubby]

Originally Posted by jimtoon

I was definately with the coldcallers tonight and there was lots of shuffle. It took at least 4 attempts before we got an elevator loaded. I don't know what the problem is lately but, it sure is frustrating!

I had 3 tries I think (with Dippy Chunky) which was unusual - but lots of non-CCG folks in the lobby. Some of them I know from other toons are NOT CCG and don't even know what it is. So it happens. Unfortunate, but since we are so big, we attract so many toons, and they just don't know the way we work. Sigh.

(Although, I was under the impression that the no shuffling rule said we had to stay on once we got on, even if it meant needing to alt-f4 because we got sent up alone...)

If everyone bails with 2 seconds left, you can get off. There is know way the elevator will reload that quickly. But in general, you are right. Stay no matter what. Especially with 5 or 6 - you never know, those are often the most fun runs. (Yes the rules say with 5 you can Alt-F4.) With 5 there is always a chance someone will hop on at the last second.

AJ - sorry you had the problem. The CCG has grown so much since you put it together, that it has attracted a lot of non-CCG folks who just follow the crowd - including some griefers who seem to delight in messing with us.

See you guys in ToonTown!

[LucyLu]

Originally Posted by Wierd Stubby

AJ - sorry you had the problem. The CCG has grown so much since you put it together, that it has attracted a lot of non-CCG folks who just follow the crowd - including some griefers who seem to delight in messing with us.

See you guys in ToonTown!

Aw, that's sweet, but its not about me.... I always manage ... its about those toons out there, and you know who you are, who wouldn't even *do* VP before the CCG was formed due to stinky toons chasing them away. I'm glad I came back as a mid laffer. If I had been here all along as "AJ: FOUNDER OF GUILD" I wouldn't be treated like the average schmoe toon when trying to do VP. I sorta feel like I'm working under cover! Hehehehehe!

You could try posting here your intent to VP at a particular time. Then, armed with a list of toons to look for, filling an elevator might not be so hard.

Whatever you do, don't let the stinky toons discourage you! Keep trying!

[Light Blue Rabbit]

about groups misbehaving for ccg runs-
i think it is two things- one is toons who are attracted to any group getting ready to go- and they may or may not know any strategy
and the other is toons who want to go with the CCG, but have not read enuf of the guides and such to really cooperate.

i have a couple of times gone with a group of good players, but they never ever seem to lure left and hit right. ( and it can be hard to explain.)n
i am trying to get a very good player to come, her toon is Amy, a pink rabbit, and she is about halfway up the cog suit scale. might be more by now. her alternate toon is Flip Cheezywhip, also a high cog suit. This gal really knows how to pie the hole!!!!!
plus, i have had my schedule changed, so i wont be able to play very much, if at all, for many months . rats.
so, if you see Amy and/or Flip Cheezywhip, give them a big hello!!!!!
she would more than be able to take my place as i can not seem to get the pie throwing right. (i hit vp on the suit jacket , so the splat shows yellow, but that's all i seem to be able to do.)

anyway,
is it at all possible to get a district reserved just for ccg, just as testers do?

[smtx26]

Wouldn't a CCG-only district contradict the helpful nature of the group?

If I understand correctly, this group was founded on the principal of getting people to the VP regardless of laff/suit/etc. ANY people. Even those annoying toons that do the elevator shuffle. Sort of a 'lead by example, help anyone' concept?

A CCG-only district would prevent non-TTC members from discovering and joining (and possibly helping) the CCG runs. I mean, I'm sure there are at least a few toons who join CCG runs without any knowledge of this message board or the CCG website.

Just my thoughts on that.. sorry for going off the topic of this thread.

[LucyLu]

Originally Posted by smtx26

Wouldn't a CCG-only district contradict the helpful nature of the group?

If I understand correctly, this group was founded on the principal of getting people to the VP regardless of laff/suit/etc. ANY people. Even those annoying toons that do the elevator shuffle. Sort of a 'lead by example, help anyone' concept?

A CCG-only district would prevent non-TTC members from discovering and joining (and possibly helping) the CCG runs. I mean, I'm sure there are at least a few toons who join CCG runs without any knowledge of this message board or the CCG website.

Just my thoughts on that.. sorry for going off the topic of this thread.

not off topic at all... you have an excellent point. I wasn't concerned about the goober griefers, except in so far as I was afraid that they were ccg, knew the rules, and weren't behaving themselves. I was wrong. It wasn't ccg causing the problems; now I am no longer concerened.

[Good ol' Waldo Crumblemonkey]

It's still the best thing going.