CCG Reminder: Pack The Elevator!

[raiderfanforlife]

We can't use the excuse of the Ambassadors being on test caused some loads to leave light. Thats where we should step up and take the lead and get on ourselves. We ourselves have been doing this long enough to know what to do. We have always followed the Ambassadors and more experienced toons lead that its time we ourselves recognize that we too are also leaders here in the CCG. Besides you never know who's running the small suit.

No offense to anyone but if you don't feel like it then why show up. If its become a chore and no longer fun then I say again Why show up. You are right you have a choice. But we made a choice when we became members of the CCG and that was to abide by the guidelines and pack the elevator. If you want to wait for the stragglers then by all means do so. But then I suggest that you wait WAAAY back down off the stairs. on the steps to me means you are waiting for those that are on the platform to load and you will be shifting to the platform accordingly.

Oh by the way just went on the 6CST VP run and saw 3 CC's thru to dance while on my uber. I was the only HW on the elevator. The CC's displayed the best teamwork I have ever seen for a vator filled with smaller suits. The entire run was fun.

[Beaniemooch]

I should probably stay out of this but better sense has apparently escaped me on this issue. Plus I happen to be fuming at the moment.

I personally was at the run for the Beaker's son, which is the run so many large toons attended during the scheduled CCG boss fights. This was my choice and one I was very proud to make. In fact, I skipped the last hour of work (I'm Pacific time) to make it there, and I was privileged to be on the young boy's side during cogs. Did I miss the CFO runs because of it? Nope, because I've quit going to them and here's why. The last CCG CFO I attended was a marathon a few weeks ago. I had been looking forward to it and right after the normally scheduled CFO I hopped on the elevator. I happened to get on with a certain toon who has chosen to max on two tracks, throw and squirt, and I knew going in he was soundless. Personally I have no issue with this, makes it more interesting. The other two toons on my side kept asking for sound which I did not choose to follow, replied no, and would put out lure. After several occcurrences of this I was given let's use sound and a sad face... Teamwork was missing on this run, and during the crane round I felt the same lack of teamwork. When we danced it was relatively quiet when I came on. Hm, NOT what I was expecting from CCG regulars who mostly had RB50 suits. That was my only CFO of the marathon and I haven't been back to the CFO with CCG since seeing as my last few CCG runs had been unpleasant. This follows a number of VP battles where in one fight stinking occurred by a normal CCG attendee (which I pm'd a mod about ) or general poor behavior occurred and where I as a CCG member was expected to sit back, take it, and make the best of it while setting a good example. And I did that. Now it appears I am in a roundabout way being criticized for the choice of boss attendance I made, although I realize the posting was not directed at me personally nor do I take it that way. But apparently some people take exception to the choices that I make in where I spend my Toontown time.

The CCG was formed to get you on the elevator. In the CFO runs that went sad they were easily able to get on the elevator. Mission accomplished. So somehow it is the ambassadors' fault they went sad, or the larger suits' fault for not making sure they made it through? Perhaps as a group we need to learn to stand on our own two feet more and not depend on the big suits. Take each sadness as a learning experience and get over it.

I do most of my boss fights in River again these days because I find the level of play to be very acceptable to me. Some loads are good, some are not so good, and I rely on my own skill and quick thinking to get me through. This applies when I take my big toons or my small toons. I grew up in River without anybody looking out for me except me. When I played badly I got stunk sometimes and sometimes not, and I figured out I better learn fast because I didn't like getting stunk. When I played well I was cheered. I learned to crane in the CFO by staying in runs that went bad, and by jumping on a crane long enough to practice throwing a few things before I alt'd out or went sad. CCG training seems a better idea and a safe place to practice. But to the toons that seem to think I or anyone else here needs to lead you through and somehow owe you my presence, remember this--I pay for three accounts so that I CAN DO WHAT I WANT, not to take you through. I routinely take cold callers, short changes, and bottom feeders through boss fights every day, whether in River, Summit, or a CCG run. I like to think I contribute to success, I haven't gone sad in a boss fight in over 6 months whether in CCG or River, and I get less attitude about what is expected from me when I go to River.

Don't look for me for on CCG runs. I love my CCG friends dearly and if you choose to keep me on your list that is great. If you choose not to I understand. Right about now I'm tired and angry.

[Summer Solstice]

Originally Posted by gggbutter

I happened to get on with a certain toon who has chosen to max on two tracks, throw and squirt, and I knew going in he was soundless. Personally I have no issue with this, makes it more interesting. The other two toons on my side kept asking for sound which I did not choose to follow, replied no, and would put out lure. After several occcurrences of this I was given let's use sound and a sad face... Teamwork was missing on this run, and during the crane round I felt the same lack of teamwork. When we danced it was relatively quiet when I came on. Hm, NOT what I was expecting from CCG regulars who mostly had RB50 suits.

Wow, I was on this run and I dont remember the lack of teamwork, possibly I was not on your side I guess. I do know the toon you are referring to and with 1 soundless toon and 3 with sound, I dont understand why sound cannot be used at least some? I also guess I dont recall the crane round, usually the bad ones stand out and I remember them for awhile but I guess im drawing a blank.

Also remember that some people leave to do things during the dance, myself included. I usually tell everyone they are great! followed by a "I'll be right back". I usually go grab a drink, let the dog out etc. Especially when I am at a marathon and doing run after run.

I hope your lack of teamwork was not directed at me as I always try to "play as part of the team."

I have definately felt my own share of frustration at times and feel river can be just as fun and more of a challenge and just as rewarding. When this happens I take a break but I always seem to return to ccg because of the great people there and some great friends I have met. Why let one or two people ruin the "group" as a whole.

[Miss Flip Flipperfoot]

Originally Posted by raiderfanforlife

We can't use the excuse of the Ambassadors being on test caused some loads to leave light. Thats where we should step up and take the lead and get on ourselves. We ourselves have been doing this long enough to know what to do. We have always followed the Ambassadors and more experienced toons lead that its time we ourselves recognize that we too are also leaders here in the CCG. Besides you never know who's running the small suit.

No offense to anyone but if you don't feel like it then why show up. If its become a chore and no longer fun then I say again Why show up. You are right you have a choice. But we made a choice when we became members of the CCG and that was to abide by the guidelines and pack the elevator. If you want to wait for the stragglers then by all means do so. But then I suggest that you wait WAAAY back down off the stairs. on the steps to me means you are waiting for those that are on the platform to load and you will be shifting to the platform accordingly.

Not blaming anything on the Ambassadors dear. I do my best to keep track of the shufflers when nobody is around and when they are around. I do my job and what I signed up for which was to pack on unpacked vators. When I pack on is soley up to me. I want the crown thinned out a bit (since others are not there), so I sit tight and watch and wait, writing names down, etc. Also, as a member, I am about 95% of the time first to post each and every battle report I am on. What I am saying is that their presence is not often seen that much lately and many do look for their presence. It's much easier for them to take note of the culprits, look to see if they're a member and send a pm to them if they are. It's one less step in the process of notifying the shuffle culprits. It is not easy for me to keep track of the screenie, find out if they are or are not a member and then get the picture to them via this Mickey Mouse system of pm'ing a screenie that TTC has to anyone. At this point, I just say to myself...what's the use? If I see they aren't a member, forget about it. Nothing will change, it will continue on. Just like the world is, nothing is perfect or how each and every person would like for things to be. It's what makes the world go around. If the Toontown world were perfect, all CCG members would have ALL of their toons in the database, but they don't. What are we gonna do? Nothing. Just look out for them on the next run, and then what? Nothing!
If I don't feel like going, you are right...I DO NOT HAVE TO. But I go to spread the love and unites just like everyone else does and to fill empty spots. If some of you only knew how many times I have gotten off of my toon "needing" to VP and gotten on a maxxed toon...TO HELP out the smaller suits/ubers. I give up on my needs for my toons to help others. If that is wrong, by all means let me know.
As far as the progression goes from... down below, on the steps to up on the platform. That's exactly what I do, I'm waiting for the crowd on the platform to thin out. There are way too many people on the platform in the beginning. For goodness sakes, you can't even see and it's quite claustrophobic. I don't care to be pushed around each and every way possible. (*see above quote)
I didn't join the CCG searching for help. I joined after the only toon I played at the time was maxxed in the 3 current bosses. I joined to help others and for the good people/friends that are a part of this group. If that's wrong, then goodbye. I guess I didn't do my job.
Like I said in a previous post, if anyone sees that I am not following the guidelines, tell it to me personally. I DO NOT THINK THAT I HAVE DISOBEYED ANY GUIDELINE SET FORTH. And if anyone has ever seen me shuffle off a vator (other than AFTER others already have to let a straggler get on), then throw a safe on my head. I have done my job, I know I have! I know many out there that will back me up when I say I have done my job as a member of the CCG and never strayed from their guidelines.
Everyone, let's stop the bickering for crying out loud. If I am not allowed to state my point of view, you all have fun. If I am not allowed to ask questions, then so be it. Have fun everyone! It's just a silly game that MANY take way too seriously.
IMO, if it's not someone upset over the shuffling...it'll smooth out. Next few days, someone is upset over gag working. That will soon smooth out. Next few days, it's about someone stealing their crane. That too will work itself out. Next few days, it's about people not following LLKR. And take a wild guess... it will smooth out. Guess what? It will all start over again. To sum that all up, someone will be saying something about something that upset them that starts this whole vicious circle of a big mess of debates all over again.

[Cool Bongo Dandyroni]

Well, well, well, I feel that I must weigh in on this as well. I just recently joined the CCG and I really appreciate the help I have received with the CFO and the CJ. I found it hard to get aboard the elevator with a successful load of toons in the other districts because of my small suit size in the cash and law categories. But after finding the CCG and starting to go to CCG runs, I have built those suits to money bag and spin doctor status and will receive promotions on both when I next make a run on the CFO and CJ. I now have no problem loading in River and making a successful run. The larger toons are no longer shuffling off when I board the elevator. I try to make all the CCG runs that I can make. Now addressing the shuffling in VP and the first load or two going off sometimes or most times without HW's on them. When I arrive on the steps, the elevator is almost always loaded with small toons. How are we supposed to pack on a HW or two when the load is already full? In this situation if the HW's move on up onto the platform, then you see some toons shuffle off. Whoa!!! There's a HW, I'm gonna jump and catch the next with a HW!!! I agree, that is when the HW should pack on, but quite often the platform is full of smaller toons and they pack on. Maybe the HW's should get in there a couple minutes early and be prepared for boarding that first load. Maybe the suggestion that they lead the charge is the best. Maybe 2-3 HW's board and then the others let smaller toons join the elevator and then only pack to keep the ele from going short. (Keeping from in front of the doors though, mind you.)
But don't just assume these early loads are going off without HW's on them is the fault of the HW's. The fact that we have randoms in the mix also leads to the elevators getting packed with low level toons. I have on occasion invited non-CCG member friends along for a run. They were confused with what was happening, I was hanging back to board with them, then they didn't understand the system of battle during the cog rounds and got scolded over their choice of gags. So I don't invite non-CCG friends to come with me to the runs anymore.

I was there for the special event helping the young boy. I wasn't on his load, but was on his Dad's load. Maybe that kept me away from a scheduled VP run, I'm not sure, don't always make it to the VP run. I try to make it to at least one CCG VP run each day. I made the 10:00 pm EST run for VP, so I did what I try to do for CCG VP. The CCG CFO run that was short of folks. I was not going to be there anyhow. I was in need of bucks. As to the time of the run, now tell me when are you supposed to try to schedule a special run for a 5 year old. They have early bedtimes and they have school and then of course dinner. And I have been in attendance at other times for CFO and CJ when there were no more than three loads of toons available, and at least twice had unsuccessful runs. So don't entirely blame a special run for the failed attempts there.

[Scout]

I just want to reiterate that this thread was not created in regard to any specific person. Rather it is a general reminder to all of the membership to be proactive in packing on. The first few responses were very supportive with awesome CCG spirit. This was my intention, not to point any fingers at anyone or cause any offense.

I am an Ambassador for the CCG, I LOVE the CCG, I LOVE this game. I am testing out BOSSBOT, you better believe it. I do so in hope that everyone will eventually benefit from our previous experiences on test. I always try to lead by example anytime I am at a CCG run. I begin encouraging them in the elevator that We can do this, if they seem scared. If there are toons who are hesitant, I will guide them throughout the battle the best I can. I wrote this thread because I (nor any of the other ambassadors can be in all places or runs all of the time). I thought by posting this friendly reminder, it would communicate that even though the ambassadors can't be at all the runs, they are in tune with the pulse of the guild. I read the forum as often as I can to stay on top of any issues that may arise such as these. There will always be good runs and bad runs. It is a game afterall, Have fun!

Thanks for listening!

Scout

[King Beany]

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa!!!!!

OK everyone, take a deep breath, in through the nose..... now slowly let it out through your mouth.

Repeat.....

OK, now that we are all feeling better, let's not get into any heated debates over this. Scout is basically just posting a reminder about packing on the elevators, let's not read into it more than that. There is always a constant complaint about shuffling & the ONLY way to cambat shuffling is to fill the void IMMEDIATELY after it is created. That is why sometime you will see a toon or two walking straight into a packed elevator and continueing to walk. If someone bails, they take the spot almost before that toon leaves the ele.

As far as the HW's on the steps, this has also been addressed in other threads many times previous. Are they standing off to the side and not getting right on becuse they are trying to something negative. Absolutely not!! ( and I am not saying that anyone implied that either ) Will some of them fill in the spots earlier, most likely yes, after reading some of these posts, but that is not saying they were wrong in what they were doing before. Most of the time, they are waiting to fill a slot or 2, and trying to do what they think is right.

So lets all have fun in playing what Disney has created as a kids game, yet has been taken over by adults

[Miss Flip Flipperfoot]

Originally Posted by Cool Bongo Dandyroni

I was there for the special event helping the young boy. I wasn't on his load, but was on his Dad's load. Maybe that kept me away from a scheduled VP run, I'm not sure, don't always make it to the VP run. I try to make it to at least one CCG VP run each day. I made the 10:00 pm EST run for VP, so I did what I try to do for CCG VP. The CCG CFO run that was short of folks. I was not going to be there anyhow. I was in need of bucks. As to the time of the run, now tell me when are you supposed to try to schedule a special run for a 5 year old. They have early bedtimes and they have school and then of course dinner. And I have been in attendance at other times for CFO and CJ when there were no more than three loads of toons available, and at least twice had unsuccessful runs. So don't entirely blame a special run for the failed attempts there.

Nobody is blaming anyone for anything. It was an observation. Not just mine either. Alot of times, special CCG runs are asked to break 30 minutes before run time such as a marathon for example.

Man on man! Why is it okay that MANY are allowed to express their opinions and observations, but not okay for others only to be persecuted? I give up. Everyone go fend for theirselves. It's a dog eat dog world out there.

Why do you think in one of my posts I said I was irked to even see this new thread when I got home? I knew it was going to open up another can of worms.

[Deputy Monty]

First: No one person speaks for the CCG and that includes yours truly.

As Scout reiterated, this thread was created as a reminder. If you are on the platform, you are expected to pack on the elevator if there is a vacancy.

But I can't help but give my observation concerning a few matters that have come up in this thread.

Often there are ambassadors and CCG mods at the runs...they just aren't on toons you recognize.

The absence of "big toons" is most likely do to testing the new boss. Each player makes his/her own choice about where they want to play. The ambassadors and other experienced toon may have limited playing time and may choose to test the new boss because THAT is what they find most interesting at the moment. They will be back. In the meantime, those going to the boss w/o the "big" toons should consider this an opportunity to sharpen their skills and gain experience.

Anyone attending a special run for any reason (help someone get their first win...key run...whatever) is exercising their prerogative to do so. Special runs take place when all participants can get together and if that's 30 minutes before a CCG run then so be it. You do what you need to do.

Typically CCG sponsored marathons have a variety of attendees and the teamwork and flavor of the events is often different from the regular runs.

I'm all for a good discussion. However...remember to debate ideas, not people.

[Tromos]

Originally Posted by gggbutter

In fact, I skipped the last hour of work (I'm Pacific time) to make it there, and I was privileged to be on the young boy's side during cogs.

Thanks

[Lady Freckles]

Rant about this, rant about that - does it do any good?

If you wanna go to the boss battle, get up there, get on the darn elevator and do your best. Win or lose, does it really matter that much - just have fun!

Who cares who is doing what - someone could be growing a new toon and not at runs, playing on Test and not at runs, maybe they decided to catch up on all those REAL LIFE things that have been neglected.

If you're in the lobby and ready, then be prepared to load and just enjoy yourselves. Stop taking it all so seriously.

As King Beany has said many times - HAVE FUN!

[Little Fancy Pedalwhip]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. The last few days, I have noticed you all packing the elevators like real troopers! I cannot be at every run, but I do attend at least one run everyday. Tonight's run was fantastic and I have noticed a real change. I just wanted you to know.

[Scooter Wondertoon]

Originally Posted by Lady Freckles

Rant about this, rant about that - does it do any good?

If you wanna go to the boss battle, get up there, get on the darn elevator and do your best. Win or lose, does it really matter that much - just have fun!

Who cares who is doing what - someone could be growing a new toon and not at runs, playing on Test and not at runs, maybe they decided to catch up on all those REAL LIFE things that have been neglected.

If you're in the lobby and ready, then be prepared to load and just enjoy yourselves. Stop taking it all so seriously.

As King Beany has said many times - HAVE FUN!

HONESTLY!!!

[cputnal]

Hee Hee .....did the CFO earlier this evening....2nd load....we stood there in the elevator for a while (me and 4 other PP/SC/TW suits).....finally got two RB50s, and another RB to join in....meanwhile I was laughing to myself....all I really need is one good stomper and the crane round will be won, whether or not anyone else can crane or not....lol....don't judge a toon by his suit!!!

Craig

[Princess Pea]

I just recently started doing CCG runs and everyone of them has been a great experience...so much so that I want to join. Princess Pea is a 105 Laff, but she lacks a foghorn. Last week, I went on a few CFO runs (non-CCG) and other toon were actually rude to me for not having a foghorn. I understand that this can be frustrating, but haste makes waste and in my experience it seems that if toons keep using sound, it is bound to miss at a crucial point in the battle. I went on 3 runs with CCG today, a VP, CFO and CJ and no one was rude to me about my elephant horn. I would tell people 'sorry, I can't' and the response was 'no problem', 'you are awesome'.

So, my point is, instead of arguing and blaming people, I encourage you to tke a step back and pat yourselves on the back for helping toons with low suits. It truly helps toons who want to work up their suots or simply gain experience succeed without feeling badly. Thank you.