I feel these things need to be said...

[Silly Peaches Preciousbounce]

CFO, CJ and VP are group efforts. If you don't know how to play in a group, then you shouldn't be coming with us.

When someone asks for a laff boost, don't ignore them. Chances are they really do need one and about to go sad. The whole issue of the CCG is to get people in and out. HELP THEM.

And lastly, when a toon calls you out on being nasty, don't be a baby and leave the group area. You cause the group to suffer by making the group lose a member. Goes right along with if you can't play in a group nicely, don't play at all.

[KatzrCool]

You have some good points. Thanks for posting this.


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Merry Christmas!

[Silly Peaches Preciousbounce]

I am in no way an ambassador for the CCG but after todays CJ...I felt those things needed to be said.

[Rattlebones]

Originally Posted by Silly Peaches Preciousbounce

CFO, CJ and VP are group efforts. If you don't know how to play in a group, then you shouldn't be coming with us.

Actually this is in direct opposition to the CCG's philosophy of boarding with anyone and everyone.

While I agree that people who claim to be members of the CCG should do everything they can to work as a team, we can't expect the same of all people who go on our runs. Thinking we can only sets us up for disappointment.

As one of our old time members always says, just remember, it's only a game!

[King Beany]

Originally Posted by Silly Peaches Preciousbounce

CFO, CJ and VP are group efforts. If you don't know how to play in a group, then you shouldn't be coming with us.

When someone asks for a laff boost, don't ignore them. Chances are they really do need one and about to go sad. The whole issue of the CCG is to get people in and out. HELP THEM.

And lastly, when a toon calls you out on being nasty, don't be a baby and leave the group area. You cause the group to suffer by making the group lose a member. Goes right along with if you can't play in a group nicely, don't play at all.

Here let me fix this for you:

The whole issue of the CCG is to get people in!!!

There, much better The main and only rule for the CCG is to help others get IN to visit the Boss Battles. Everything else is gravy. Now we do go along and have MANY guidelines to help those toons that we got into the elevator, actually have a very good chance to win. Overall, be nice to others and Have Fun!!!!

KBB

[MacZilla]

By the time you are ready to fight the VP, CFO or CJ - you have probably completed a fair number of buildings and should know how to play in a group.

At any rate - please remember, some of toons you are taking on the runs are young kids. Most very young children do not understand the idea of cooperative play like adults do. But they do know when they've been ignored by the team.

Last night my 6 year old (super peppergadget 55 laff) was in tears b/c on a VP run with the CCG, he repeatedly asked the 3 100+ toons on his side of the battle for a toonup and they ignored him and let him go sad. He lasted two rounds during the cog fight before he went sad on the 3rd round.

And before anyone jumps me, I watched the second time he asked, "I need a toonup" and two of the toons replied "No" So it was stinky behavior.

Is it possible that he was on a CCG run with non CCG members? Sure... but 3 100+ laffers on the same side as him (during a CCG run), and none of them were CCG? Unlikely.

So I agree with Silly Peaches Preciousbounce.

[zarentron3]

How much laff did he have currently, and what position was the VP in? I only toon up people on low laff depending how low the laff and how close the VP is to the edge.

Besides, there is ALWAYS a second side of the story, and whenever the "victim," or the first person to report the incident, is being rude and stubborn, they are probably partially bending the truth... :/

AND when I was in a VP once, I had a perfectly planned out plan, and after I lured the cogs, I was going to toon up a low laffed toon that was about to go sad. The lure missed and the toon went sad, it was an accident. I had no way of telling the toon my plan, so sometimes if somebody doesn't talk to you, it doesn't mean they don't care about you...

And how do you know it was "stinky behavior?" They might not have toon up, or they might've been out of Toon up. Many things could've happened, and "no" might've been rude, but they might not have been able to toon him up.

AND AND when did he go into the Lobby? Did you go in early? Did you go in with toons that were encouraging people to go in early? From my experiences with CCGing, the toons that want to go in early don't always follow the rules.

[MacZilla]

Originally Posted by zarentron3

How much laff did he have currently, and what position was the VP in? I only toon up people on low laff depending how low the laff and how close the VP is to the edge.

It was before the VP battle, first round with cogs.

Originally Posted by zarentron3

Besides, there is ALWAYS a second side of the story, and whenever the "victim," or the first person to report the incident, is being rude and stubborn, they are probably partially bending the truth... :/

I'm not being rude or stubborn. If the toons that were with him were to post here and say "I don't have toonup" I'd say "okay". I hardly think my post was rude. But I can tell you,

Originally Posted by zarentron3

AND when I was in a VP once, I had a perfectly planned out plan, and after I lured the cogs, I was going to toon up a low laffed toon that was about to go sad. The lure missed and the toon went sad, it was an accident. I had no way of telling the toon my plan, so sometimes if somebody doesn't talk to you, it doesn't mean they don't care about you...

And how do you know it was "stinky behavior?" They might not have toon up, or they might've been out of Toon up. Many things could've happened, and "no" might've been rude, but they might not have been able to toon him up.

When I can't so something, I don't say "No" I say. "sorry I can't" That is the usual behavior I've seen from toons that want to help but can't.

Originally Posted by zarentron3

AND AND when did he go into the Lobby? Did you go in early? Did you go in with toons that were encouraging people to go in early? From my experiences with CCGing, the toons that want to go in early don't always follow the rules.

He was there on time.

But I guess it doesn't matter - there's always a way to excuse the behavior and say they weren't CCG. CCG is volunteer group and there's no way to prove they were or weren't, could or couldn't.

[Dizzy]

If you are dissatisfied with a CCG run and feel you've been griefed, contact a CCG Ambassador and let them sort it out. Could it have been griefing by a member? Sure, it could have been. But since the CCG is an open group that is non-exclusive, anyone can join and that means even the stinkers. We can't tell them to stay away, but the Ambassadors can still contact them, try to educate them, and try to load with them whenever possible.

As for being at a CCG run with 3 toons on a side that at least one should have been a CCG member... that isn't always true. I've been to more than one CCG run where I was the ONLY CCG member on the entire load. When I didn't recognize any names, I looked them up on the member list. Not one. It happens. I'm sorry that it happened to your son. Perhaps you could let us know his name so that the GOOD toons can try to make sure they make a special effort to pack on with him specifically. We can't guarantee that we will make it on, but if 5 or 6 are trying to board with him, I'm willing to bet at least one will make it.

To the op: I don't know what you mean by "when a toon calls you out on being nasty, don't be a baby and leave the group area." I hope that doesn't mean you were stinking them so they left. Both are against guidelines, no matter who started it.

[MacZilla]

I know there is no perfect plan... so does he... sorta.

I have taught him how to do screen shots, so when he has problems I can go back to that and look the names up.

As to the rest, it hasn't soured him or me on the CCG. :-)

[cputnal]

The one question I would ask - was lure used and he went for a cog other than the right, or used a gag insufficient to take out a cog more than once...when a toon does that, it looks a great deal like "working gags", which I personally get pretty peeved by - save your marbles and quick sand for buildings - use gags that work with the team, namely throw and squirt.

A toon that uses non-tnt trap or sound (unless everyone is using sound) tends to elicit a negative reaction.

Even if that wasn't what happened - I find it striking that any 3 100+ laffers would intentionally let an innocent go sad - I haven't seen it happen, and hope I never do - so I'm sorry it happened to you! Let us know who your child's toon is, and we'll be on the look out!

Craig

[Slippy Fiddlepop]

Originally Posted by Silly Peaches Preciousbounce

When someone asks for a laff boost, don't ignore them. Chances are they really do need one and about to go sad. The whole issue of the CCG is to get people in and out. HELP THEM.

More often than not, at least in VP, I see toons asking for a toon-up when they've only lost a few (less than 10) out of over 100 laff. My personal stance on tooning up in the pie fight is: if you're above my maximum laff (which is usually 25 or high 30s depending on which toon I'm on), you're fine and don't need a toonup. No attack from the VP does more than 10 damage anyhow. Now, if a toon asks for a toonup and appears to be running low, I may come over and lend a few pies if nobody else does. But our pies are best saved for the VP, and not someone who can't stand to be at less than maximum laff when they've got plenty. Sorry, but I see this way too often. I do check laff if someone asks for a toonup, though. I just ignore them if they've got a lot of laff.

Now, in CJ, I've only seen people ask for a toon-up when they are low, and more often than not, someone will (or try to) help them out.

[Miss Flip Flipperfoot]

Alot of us are trying to get the cogs/skels out of the way so we can safely lure (if he's not lured) on the last cog and then use tu on our teammates, especially when some toons are underkilling and by constant speedchats about lets use a certain gag. Some of us are there to try to show them to lets work on that later, lets take over a bldg, later. Whatever the case may be. Sorry your son was sent to the pg in tears. It even happens to adults getting sent to the pg in tears. Sometimes from happy tears, sometimes from being griefed tears. I think any of us regular CCG members will gladly use TU on any toon, when we find it appropriate to do so and do anything we possibly can whether it be a unite or whatever. Sometimes RL, or computer issues come up as well. It happens. Have FUN! Seasons Greetings! Take these things in stride due to the holidays. We have more toons/kids playing during these times. Some of us tend to get more aggravated than others at gag working during boss battles. Then again, some of us players know when to throw our marbles, banana peels, barbie mags and flower pots to add excitement to the game. But we have maxxed gags while using them or pretty much know if our gag can take out a cog and someone can back us up. It's just a game. Just have fun. I'll keep an eye out for your son, but I'm not going to take a chance and watch others not boarding to pack the elevator. I'll do what I can. If I happen to say, You first, it's being said because I can go whenever I want. I'd much rather watch someone needing a promo than me on the elevator but if I see them not packing on, I'll go.

Good luck and have fun!

[MacZilla]

Originally Posted by cputnal

Even if that wasn't what happened - I find it striking that any 3 100+ laffers would intentionally let an innocent go sad - I haven't seen it happen, and hope I never do - so I'm sorry it happened to you! Let us know who your child's toon is, and we'll be on the look out!

Craig

He's blue mouse. 55 Laff, Max throw. - Super Peppergadget.

[UltimaManticore]

I had someone that kept using bike horn when everyone did sound instead of using a more powerful gag. I know how it is.