I Think We Either Need More Moderators or Something Please

[MasterSpunkyRockenbocker3211]

For the past few times I vped with the vp on my newer toon. Check it out at my profile. Well, everytime I get on the elevator, everything's all good, except for ppl saying "I think this is too risky for you." and that kind of stuff. I get past the first round of cogs, but what's that I see? I think it's about 4 or 5 toons leaving right b4 the skelecog battle! This is getting out of hand CCG members. We need to do SOMETHING about this.

[QueenFluffyGiggletoes]

Are you sure you have the right districts and times? Funnyfield is a frequent launch district and you could be having trouble with randoms.

If you do, my suggestion is that you wait, wait, wait. I know it is hard sometimes, but the best runs are usually the last 3 or 4. The bigger suits try to balance out the loads, but as the lobby empties there are usually lots of Mr. Hollywoods left waiting to go.

I am so sorry that people are being so nasty to you. It really confounds me. I have never had this happen to me on any of my toons and neither have my daughters. In fact my experience shows that CCG loves and welcomes ubers and low laff, low gag toons. We love to see you dance!

Take some screen shots of the toons griefing you and tell a CCG moderator.

[Princess Roxy Beanseed]

Originally Posted by QueenFluffyGiggletoes

Are you sure you have the right districts and times? Funnyfield is a frequent launch district and you could be having trouble with randoms.

If you do, my suggestion is that you wait, wait, wait. I know it is hard sometimes, but the best runs are usually the last 3 or 4. The bigger suits try to balance out the loads, but as the lobby empties there are usually lots of Mr. Hollywoods left waiting to go.

I am so sorry that people are being so nasty to you. It really confounds me. I have never had this happen to me on any of my toons and neither have my daughters. In fact my experience shows that CCG loves and welcomes ubers and low laff, low gag toons. We love to see you dance!

Take some screen shots of the toons griefing you and tell a CCG moderator.

I think we should switch district because most of our districts are luanch districts...

A qoute by me:

[I'm suprised it carried over to the CFO!Do you think we should switch districts ONCE again?Because all the districts we have are JUMP districts?

I think it will just be HORRIBLE if it got over to the CJ!

I think we should switch districts but I might be WRONG

Just concerns-
PRB

Here's this thread's sister thread:
VP Elevator Shuffle

[Prof. Wally Poppencorn]

Originally Posted by MasterSpunkyRockenbocker3211

SNIP

hi there,

I'm a CCG Ambassador,

and i (along with other Ambassadors) am here deal with any problems that arise in the loading of elevators, and Non CCG Conduct. Unfortunately, Our runs are not attended exclusively by CCG members, due to the nature of the Toontown Servers, we will get randoms in there.
May i suggest waiting until one of the later loads ( leaving the pit at exactly on the run time, when the mass exodus begins, and then holding back a little).

If you see a CCG member behaving in a manner that would bring the guild into disrepute you can PM one of the Ambassadors:

We have developed a form to assist you in making reports to the CCG Ambassadors and Mods of questionable toon behavior on a scheduled CCG run.
There have been numerous times since the start of our Ambassdor program that we have all seen publicly posted threads(sometimes accusatory), of questionable behavior before or during a CCG scheduled run.
These types of posts/threads are not good for a number of reasons. For starters, sometimes these types of posts openly flame others which is against TTC policy. Secondly, these types of postings shed negative light on the CCG as a whole. These postings can and do shed negative light on the toon/toons being named and sometimes even the complainant themselves.
Postings such as these tend to "draw down" the CCG members morale, they can cause fights and hurt feelings within our member base.

For these reasons we ask you to privately contact a CCG Ambassador or Mod when you have issues on one of our runs.

Here is a link to the Incident Report Form



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[MasterSpunkyRockenbocker3211]

I always wait til the run time but even then... the same thing happens. This doesn't happen on my stronger toon just my uber (in the making, cough) toon. Thanks I know I'm gonna have to use this. lol

[Loki]

Here's a thought . . .

Instead of waiting on the first few elevators to load and leave with small suits (many who are probably not CCG members), what if the big suits with the CCG tried loading 4-5 big suits on the first few elevators leaving 3-4 slots for smaller suits, then the small suits wouldn't feel panicked and jump. If only 3 or 4 could get on any single elevator at a time then the other small suits would have to wait on the next elevator, which the big suits with the CCG could immediately fill 4 - 5 slots, again allowing for only 3 - 4 smaller suits at a time.

Just a thought.

[Midnite Purr]

I VPd with CCG three times in the last two days and every time there was a shuffle. I just stand on the stairs and wait for them to finish their little elevator dance. It is still easier to get on than in Nutty River. The annoying part to me is that during two of the battles, toons were working gags and saying mean things to other toons. I think that people with a couple friends decide to go the CCG runs because they can't get into Nutty River and then they just do whatever they want and don't follow the guidelines. There really is no way to keep people like that out.

[bella lily]

The last time I vp'd with the CCG, I went on my small toon.
The shuffle was horrible. Not just the small toons...but the larger laff(suit) toons also. I just hung back a while and watched. When they seemed to finally settle things down...around the third elevator full...I took a chance and went up. I had no problems then.

[Queen Violet Hulawig]

I have seen several comments here about standing on the steps and waiting for the shuffle to end before loading. I have a big problem with this because it is not how we are supposed to be doing things with the CCG. Our CCG guidelines state that we are to pack on the elevator no matter what. What happens when you stand on the steps is many toons end up on short loads (as I did yesterday when everyone ditched poor Pup) or loads too small to fight the VP. We need to make more of an effort to pack on. If everyone packed on the elevator, shuffling would become almost nonexistant because there would always be someone pushing in to take the place of somone hopping off. I realize the timer may be blocked when this happens, but we need to learn to trust other CCG members to pack on and just stay put on the elevator. Usually once the first few loads go through everything runs smoothly, but once the shuffling starts it takes on a life of it's own causing everyone (especially the smaller suits) to panic making it last much longer than it should. If you are nervous about the shuffling and want to wait for it to end, then wait a minute or two out in the pit before going into the VP lobby. I realize the toons up on the platform are signaling they are ready to load, but I feel as a CCG member, once you enter the VP lobby you are obligated to pack on and not to stand there and wait for things to get 'safe'. JMHO anyway!

[QueenFluffyGiggletoes]

Originally Posted by Loki

Here's a thought . . .

Instead of waiting on the first few elevators to load and leave with small suits (many who are probably not CCG members), what if the big suits with the CCG tried loading 4-5 big suits on the first few elevators leaving 3-4 slots for smaller suits, then the small suits wouldn't feel panicked and jump. If only 3 or 4 could get on any single elevator at a time then the other small suits would have to wait on the next elevator, which the big suits with the CCG could immediately fill 4 - 5 slots, again allowing for only 3 - 4 smaller suits at a time.

Just a thought.

That is an excellent idea! Sometimes those small suits are anxious and raring to go and all hop on the elevator together as soon as run time approaches. I myself have thought occasionally that the number of all HW runs reported was sad after seeing loads full of small suits leaving on their own.

However, I watched the shuffle yeserday, and there were a good number of tall suits in those elevators that left short due to shuffle. The shuffle didn't really look "horrible" either compared to running in other districts with randoms. I believe the real problem yesterday was the crowding of the platform by suits of all sizes which served to completely block the elevator. (I only detected more movement than usual.) It was impossible to determine if there were spaces that needed to be filled. If you don't plan to fill an empty space on the elevator that is loading, stand back. Please.

I don't think the problem lately is leaving early either; according to my atomic clock, cell phone, and computer clock, I did not leave a still bustling pit til three minutes after run time. This is great because not too long ago it was not uncommon to arrive at an empty pit several minutes before runtime. Yikes!

It really all boils down to this: Everyone and anyone can join a CCG run. Sometimes toons that are there have happened upon a bustling pit and think hey maybe I'll get lucky! Sometimes our friends teleport to us and want to load with us and communicating the guidelines thru SpeedChat is not possible. A lot of people find our schedule and skip over the part about guidelines and strategy. Some toons just think it is funny to cause trouble.

It is not a perfect tooniverse even in the CCG. Let's just all take a deep breath, count to 10 (or 20 quickly), and start the new day fresh!

[Duke Wally Crunchytoon]

Originally Posted by Loki

Here's a thought . . .

Instead of waiting on the first few elevators to load and leave with small suits (many who are probably not CCG members), what if the big suits with the CCG tried loading 4-5 big suits on the first few elevators leaving 3-4 slots for smaller suits, then the small suits wouldn't feel panicked and jump. If only 3 or 4 could get on any single elevator at a time then the other small suits would have to wait on the next elevator, which the big suits with the CCG could immediately fill 4 - 5 slots, again allowing for only 3 - 4 smaller suits at a time.

Just a thought.

I totally agree with you! I think what cause the small suits to shuffle is because they are not confident going to VP without any higher suits. So if we can have several big suits, they will stay on the elevator. Having said that, I have experienced a lot of shuffle lately, especially during the holiday season. I tried to pack on and did not jump off the elevator eventhough others jump off. Usually those who hopped off were small suits. Just like QVH said, if the CCG member pack on the first, second, and third elevators, we will eliminate the shuffling!

[Miss Lily Twinklehopper]

I have seen several comments here about standing on the steps and waiting for the shuffle to end before loading. I have a big problem with this because it is not how we are supposed to be doing things with the CCG. Our CCG guidelines state that we are to pack on the elevator no matter what.

Hear! Hear! I haven't been on a run this weekend, but I agree that those comments have been floating around this forum for at least a week. Every time I see someone say to wait a few loads for "better" chances, I shake my head. CCG members are blaming the shuffle on randoms - unless CCG members jump onto the elevator, "randoms" will continue to fill up the elevator and possibly be a problem. Packing on the elevator as soon as you get into the lobby will go a long way to solving this problem.

And, as the adage goes, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[bella lily]

Originally Posted by Queen Violet Hulawig

I have seen several comments here about standing on the steps and waiting for the shuffle to end before loading. I have a big problem with this because it is not how we are supposed to be doing things with the CCG. Our CCG guidelines state that we are to pack on the elevator no matter what. What happens when you stand on the steps is many toons end up on short loads (as I did yesterday when everyone ditched poor Pup) or loads too small to fight the VP. We need to make more of an effort to pack on. If everyone packed on the elevator, shuffling would become almost nonexistant because there would always be someone pushing in to take the place of somone hopping off. I realize the timer may be blocked when this happens, but we need to learn to trust other CCG members to pack on and just stay put on the elevator. Usually once the first few loads go through everything runs smoothly, but once the shuffling starts it takes on a life of it's own causing everyone (especially the smaller suits) to panic making it last much longer than it should. If you are nervous about the shuffling and want to wait for it to end, then wait a minute or two out in the pit before going into the VP lobby. I realize the toons up on the platform are signaling they are ready to load, but I feel as a CCG member, once you enter the VP lobby you are obligated to pack on and not to stand there and wait for things to get 'safe'. JMHO anyway!

I disagree. The platform is where you stand when you're ready to load. The platform I witnessed was overrun with toons. High and low laff. If the no shuffle rule had held in place, there would be no problem. If, it's due to randoms showing up...well...I came to go with the ccg. If I wanted a random group...I'd find one. On my small toon, my chances of my dancing are better with the ccg. If I'm on my larger toon...I'll get right up there and hop in...no problem.
As for signaling my intentions...just showing up signals my intention to go.

[Flash flood]

yeah, I have noticed this also. Example: there were 8 people on the platform-6 cold callers, like me- and we all went in, but with a second or 2 remaining, the two big toon's left.

[Queen Violet Hulawig]

Originally Posted by bella lily

I disagree. The platform is where you stand when you're ready to load. The platform I witnessed was overrun with toons. High and low laff. If the no shuffle rule had held in place, there would be no problem. If, it's due to randoms showing up...well...I came to go with the ccg. If I wanted a random group...I'd find one. On my small toon, my chances of my dancing are better with the ccg. If I'm on my larger toon...I'll get right up there and hop in...no problem.
As for signaling my intentions...just showing up signals my intention to go.

If there were toons up on the platform packing on (ie pushing to get on the elevator) then there would be no shuffle because eventually the shufflers would get shuffled off. All it would take is two or three big suits at a time to be up there packing on, I certainly don't mean for everyone to stampede to the elevator. I think the VP is the one area the big suits need to push their weight around a bit...especially when there are so many small suits present. There are so many big suits now they almost out number the small ones, so there are plenty to go around. You cannot control what randoms do, but I strongly believe that once those randoms realize we are not shuffling they will be less likely to bail. When you see all the shuffling that goes on in NR, it's easy to see why they panic when someone jumps off. They see all those big suits standing back on the steps and decide to hop off and wait for them to go. Unfortunately there is no way to have an exclusive CCG run, so we just need to find a way to deal with them and still follow the CCG guidelines of no shuffling. Also, two of the people who bailed on Pup yesterday were listed CCG members, so it is not just a problem with randoms.