Has anyone figure out how to run Toontown without Internet Explorer?

[Mad Hatter]

I've been able to live without Internet Explorer for several years now... but now Disney's Toontown, seems to force you to use Internet Explorer. Is there any way to launch the game without using IE? I remember one point during beta, someone came up with a stand alone phython script for running the game. Is this still possible? Any hints?

Mad Hatter

[Tubcat]

Not sure. I gave in and now use IE exclusively to play ToonTown. In fact, I have it set as my default page.

[DutchAmerica]

I have windows xp, and have had nothing but trouble with my Internet Explorer. At this point I can only use netscape on my big bad desktop computer. I wish I could use that one on ttc. The game would run so much smoother.

I did e-mail disney that I had a problem. I refered them to Compaq's website. Obviously, the problem is well known to Compaq as they have several 'fixes' for it. The fix worked on my lap top but not on my desktop.

I asked Disney why they don't have it available on netscape or in another manner that we can access other than from explorer.

If more people that have problems with the browsers would e-mail them, they might make it available on netscape too.

[hop_along]

ME ME ME
It's all about ME!

I have a computer with a KNOWN problem that the computer manufacturer has "FIXES" for, but rather than FIX *MY* system, I want DISNEY to "fix" their game so that it works on MY system, even if MY system is at fault.

Toontown has issues with bugs and glitches even though Disney has STANDARDIZED on one browser and Operating System platform. Can you imagine now many more problems there would be if they tried to add even more variables?

IE complies with a certain set of STANDARDS that Netscape, Opera, and others browsers do not comply with. The game was designed to work on a Properly Functioning System that complies with these standards.

All games have System Requirements. It is the USERS responsibility to meet these requirements. Complaining that it does not work on a system that has known issues with one of the requirements (IE) is like complaining that I can't run the game on my old 486 running Linux. It is not the games fault that it will not run on that box, it is the BOXES fault for not meeting the REQUIREMENTS.

Hop_Along

[Mangla]

Originally posted by hop_along

I have a computer with a KNOWN problem that the computer manufacturer has "FIXES" for, but rather than FIX *MY* system, I want DISNEY to "fix" their game so that it works on MY system, even if MY system is at fault.

Umm, I think the statement you missed was "The fix worked on my lap top but not on my desktop."

IE complies with a certain set of STANDARDS that Netscape, Opera, and others browsers do not comply with. The game was designed to work on a Properly Functioning System that complies with these standards.

Hee hee, obviously you are not in a computer field from this statement. IE flaunts standards and does not comply. That is why many sites restict usage to IE instead of "standard" cross platform acceptance. TT tuns on an activeX control I presume, so it is possible to run from elsewherebased on my understanding. The actual browser is not the issue. Products like Citrix manage this with no problem.

So without going into an anti-MS tirade, I will say that having the ability to run "stand-alone" would be nice. But as it stands, the game "requires" IE so we are working under that restriction.

[DutchAmerica]

Comparing and old 486 linux to the new generation of computers we are using today is kind of like comparing oranges to limes. They look similar but one is sweet and the other is bitter. In reality, they are totally different.

I think that MS was sued already for creating a monopoly with internet explorer. That's why I can't understand why a popular company like Disney doesn't offer their game through more internet browsers.

I can play almost anything else on netscape. Disney is selling us a service. WE are the customers.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by hop_along
ME ME ME
It's all about ME!

I have a computer with a KNOWN problem that the computer manufacturer has "FIXES" for, but rather than FIX *MY* system, I want DISNEY to "fix" their game so that it works on MY system, even if MY system is at fault.

*blinks* Wow. I didn't expect flames in this community board... guess the bad seeds of the internet extend everywhere.

IE complies with a certain set of STANDARDS that Netscape, Opera, and others browsers do not comply with. The game was designed to work on a Properly Functioning System that complies with these standards.

Sorry bub, but you are completely wrong. It is obvious you are ignorant of these things. IE is far from adhering to established standards. You are disillusion into thinking that IE follows "standards", because you may have some favorite website that doesn't render properly on other browsers. Is it that other browser's fault? No. It's the websites fault for having to create content targeted directly to use proprietary features of Internet Explorer. Why would someone develope such a website? (i.e. Disney's Toontown). Because Microsoft has a 90% market share over the browser market. By Microsoft adding proprietary language features into Internet Explorer and web developers taking use of those non-standard features, they lock out other browsers and Microsoft gains further control over the internet.

All games have System Requirements. It is the USERS responsibility to meet these requirements. Complaining that it does not work on a system that has known issues with one of the requirements (IE) is like complaining that I can't run the game on my old 486 running Linux. It is not the games fault that it will not run on that box, it is the BOXES fault for not meeting the REQUIREMENTS.

Once again, you show your ignorance in how computer applications work. But further more, I started this thread in hopes that I would receive help in figuring out how to run Toontown without IE. Seen how you have no knowledge of that, why did you bother to reply to my post?

My main interest in running Toontown without IE, is so that I can remove all references to IE from my sibblings machines. They actively play toontown, however they install all kinds of junk on those machines. Slowing down the machine with all types of spyware and viruses. A good portion of that trash,comes from having IE/Outlook be such a virus/spy friendly programs. If I can get toontown to run without IE, then there would be no reason for my sibblings to use IE. I'll have them use Mozilla instead.

Mad Hatter

[WldKarrde]

IE, Mozilla, Netscape. Everyone has their preference. A lot of people scream about IE because of netware, spyware, virus or another malicious programs out there. Disney has obviously, for some reason unknown to the rest of us, decided to partner with Microsoft on this one. I don't really see it as that big of a deal. If you're an avid fan of another browser but want to use Disney's product, then open IE and set your browser homepage to TT. Never use it to browse anywhere else. How long are you really on IE when playing TT? Two minutes? Less? Long enough to load the installer launcher and then you're into the regular game interface that everyone sees. And I haven't heard of anyone ending up with a virus from play.toontown.com as of yet. Control your browsing, use your favorite to go anywhere else on the web...happy compromise. Maybe Disney will choose to optimize their game for other browsers down the road, but I'm not holding my breath. IE seems to serve their purposes beautifully.

[Bubbles]

This isn't a matter of preference. 5 years ago it would have been possible to play using either browser. But as mentioned, IE does not follow many of the WWW standards put forth by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). For example, both Netscape and IE support table borders. But on one the code for off is 0 and the other is 1.

Disney uses IE because they have 90% of the market share and probably because Toontown uses Active X which IE uses easier than Netscape.

[DutchAmerica]

I am not a fan of either, but right now, because of IE problems I am forced to run Netscape and therefore can not play the game on my favorite computer.

[Bubbles]

That's too bad. I've been to lazy to install anything else on my home machine. But all the machines I'm responsible for at work have both IE and Netscape. That way when a patron can't view or print from 1 browser, we have them try the other.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by WldKarrde
I don't really see it as that big of a deal. If you're an avid fan of another browser but want to use Disney's product, then open IE and set your browser homepage to TT

Except, that my sibblings are not computer enthusiast that are aware of such things. The typical teenager/kid now days, uses a computer for downloading MP3s, instant-chat, and browsing the web. My sibblings just click through every OK button.

Mad Hatter

[hop_along]

Originally posted by DutchAmerica
Comparing and old 486 linux to the new generation of computers we are using today is kind of like comparing oranges to limes. They look similar but one is sweet and the other is bitter. In reality, they are totally different.

You're RIGHT, it's like comparing Netscape to IE, in reality, they are totally different, even though they perform the same function.

I think that MS was sued already for creating a monopoly with internet explorer. That's why I can't understand why a popular company like Disney doesn't offer their game through more internet browsers.

Uhhhh.... maybe BECAUSE Microsoft has a 90% market share so by using IE, 90% of the average computer users can play the game?

I can play almost anything else on netscape. Disney is selling us a service. WE are the customers.

They are selling a service that has REQUIREMENTS, one of which is IE. Another of which is 256Meg of Ram.

According to your logic, since Disney is selling a "service", and we are the customers, they should design the game to play on computers with 128Meg of ram, cause that is all some people's computers have.

I am sorry that you have problems with IE, but they are YOUR problems, and it is not Disneys responsibility to design their service to operate properly on your computer that is not functioning properly.