ATTN:Lure+Sound=GOOD!

[The Brrrgh]

Originally Posted by tundaplaya7

How did you get 4 cogs on the street every time? I actually have never seen sound miss if all the cogs are lured. I personally dont think it can miss when all of them cogs are lured. So I will believe that when I see it.

I used my real life friends, of course.
I managed to get three of my friends to battle with me, and we waited for a long time until four cogs came.
I used my hypno-goggles, and they used fog horns and elephants, and it missed.

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by Captain Popcorn Hucklegoober

No i meant, even though you can take out 12s with 3 fogs, if i were training sound, i'd use sound, and this might be a bad idea in the future, there could be 13+ cogs...

Like Wolfeh said, you can't take out 12's with 3 fogs. I mean, if you want to sound, sound. This strategy is only for people who want lure....

Originally Posted by Superfrizzle

Maybe the cogs are heavy sleepers because sound doesn't work well with lured cogs

O.O

No...No...No

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

It wastes time I rather take my chances on the sound hitting, I'm just impatient. It's good you know that a fog and 2 elephant will take out the 9s. When the first set of cogs comes out at the cj and theres 3 9s and a 12 sometimes or similar. I always see the weirdest gag choices toons make. 1 fog 2 eles and a drop or cake on the 12... please learn this combo Toontown!!Alway with the 3 elephants lol.

How does it waste time? Lure takes about 3-4 seconds when someone uses it. Are those 4 seconds out of your life really going to matter?

And no, why would you use 3 elephants and a fog when there is a level 12? That's stupid. It's better to do 2 elephants, a fog, and a drop or cake on the 12. If you just use 3 eles and a fog, the cog isn't going to die. So how is that a weird gag choice? At least those people are being smart. I always make sure the 12 gets attacked with drop or cake.

Originally Posted by ChocoStrawberry

I have tested using sound on four lured cogs for many months.
Approximately 1 out of every 760 sets of Lured Cogs has sound miss on them.
That is what I got.
And I have seen it happen twice, both on the streets.

Wow, that must have taken forever.

Well it looks like sound doesn't miss on lured cogs to often often huh?

[marioman156]

Originally Posted by Phillies

Most people just have to do the math sometimes. It's really not that diffucult. Some people are either slow, lazy, dumb, or a combination of both/all. If people would stop and think then this strategy is a great one.(IMO) But, I guess, they will eventually learn. I know that a lot of people don't know what kills what, and that's understandable. I just wish more people would think about what they are doing more often.

and they don't know what is what and which is which

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by marioman156

and they don't know what is what and which is which

Yep, pretty much...

[The Dogfather]

Originally Posted by Phillies

I know this issue has probably already been addressed but I'm going to say this for the people who are probably unaware.

Now, let's say you are in a CFO and 3 lvl 9's and a lvl 8 come out. One person picks fog horn while the other two pick elephant. In case you didn't know, one fog and two eles will kill up to lvl 9's. Okay, so instead of wasting an elephant, why not lure? Luring the cogs HELPS! I've seen so many people say "Huh?" and "Are you new here?" when I lure. People, luring the cogs will not cause any harm whatsoever. As long as the cogs will die, it is okay to lure! It is better to lure the cogs then just sound.

Okay, so you are in a VP and two lvl 10's and a lvl 9 come out. And someone who doesn't know that one fog will kill lvl 10's fogs. So, you have two people fogging while the other uses elephant. It is good to lure in this situation too! If the other person doesn't take their fog back, you should lure.

So in conclusion, luring when other people are sounding is good when you know that the cogs will be defeated.

Kthxbai

I agree with you Phillies. Why waste a sound gag you dont need to use? Using a fog and 3 eles on 9s or less is overkill. It would be like using a cake and pie on lured 10s, its not necessary, just a waste.

I think luring when they are sounding is a great strategy because sound does miss sometimes and if the cogs get lured and sound misses, guess what, no one gets hit.

Phillies, don't worry about people complaining, because you will always get people that have no idea what they are doing and are eagerly willing to seem as if they do by complaining about someone else. So dont take their complaints literally, just understand that you are a more skilled player than they are because they are just not getting what a good strategy is!

I got the same treatment on my little toon, Dawg Father II, the other day in the fac. I use the same type of strategy with my uber toon. I am maxed on sound and still need some lure so I was luring while the other toons were sounding. This helps kill 2 birds with 1 stone, because I get to work my lure plus it keeps me out of harms way if sound were to miss. There have been plenty of times that sound missed and Dawg Father II almost died because of it. Had I lured on those situations I would have been fine. The cogs will usually attack him because he is generally the smallest in laff. Plus I will lure, because we dont need 4 eles or so to kill a bunch of 4s, 5s and 6s. I just laughed at the situation when they were asking me if I was new here, because the whole time we were in running the fac I had Dawg Father right next to me, LOL!!! They just didnt get that both toons were the same person. It was so hilarious!

The Dogfather

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by The Dogfather

I agree with you Phillies. Why waste a sound gag you dont need to use? Using a fog and 3 eles on 9s or less is overkill. It would be like using a cake and pie on lured 10s, its not necessary, just a waste.

I think luring when they are sounding is a great strategy because sound does miss sometimes and if the cogs get lured and sound misses, guess what, no one gets hit.

Phillies, don't worry about people complaining, because you will always get people that have no idea what they are doing and are eagerly willing to seem as if they do by complaining about someone else. So dont take their complaints literally, just understand that you are a more skilled player than they are because they are just not getting what a good strategy is!

I get the same treatment on my little toon, Dawg Father II, the other day in the fac. I am maxed on sound and still need some lure so I was luring while the other toons were sounding. Im sorry, but we dont need 4 eles or so to kill a bunch of 4s and 5s, so I was luring. I just laughed at the situation when they were asking me if I was new here, because the whole time we were in running the fac I had Dawg Father right next to me, LOL!!! They just didnt get that both toons were the same person. It was just hilarious!

The Dogfather

Usually when I see someone complain, I just laugh at them. Since they don't know what's going on. But I usually reply with a "You do the math"(I love that phrase )

Wow, they were still bothering you even though you had your 128 there? What's wrong with some people?! Geez.

I have been running my uber (Purrrty Lady-That was me who waved to you yesterday lol) and my 109 through sell these past few days. And since I don't have sound, I have been luring while others sound. I've only had people complain about one or two times. But, if I sound on my 108, people start complaining like I'm a 108 laff noob or something lol.

People these days...*Shakes head*

[Skinny CJ Electropretzel]

How does it waste time? Lure takes about 3-4 seconds when someone uses it. Are those 4 seconds out of your life really going to matter?

I prefer to take as little time as possible, if you're training gags that's cool, go for it.

And no, why would you use 3 elephants and a fog when there is a level 12? That's stupid. It's better to do 2 elephants, a fog, and a drop or cake on the 12. If you just use 3 eles and a fog, the cog isn't going to die. So how is that a weird gag choice? At least those people are being smart. I always make sure the 12 gets attacked with drop or cake.

Take a reading comprehension class... I said a fog, 2 elephants and a drop or cake. The 3 elephants and a drop is what annoys me. That's why I said always with 3 elephants... And you knowing that a fog and 2 elephants takes out 9s was all i said and was a complement, and nothing to do with CJ. If to or 3 seconds doesn't really matter then why don't you spend that time to fish.

[Skinny CJ Electropretzel]

Originally Posted by tundaplaya7

Why waste an ele when you dont have to? And about being impatient, I mean come on, it like 3 extra seconds.

you can pass.... or use the lip stick on a female toon like i do.

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

I prefer to take as little time as possible, if you're training gags that's cool, go for it.

Okay, if you are going to get mad over 3 or 4 seconds, you have some issues. But I'm not going to get farther into that.

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

Take a reading comprehension class... I said a fog, 2 elephants and a drop or cake. The 3 elephants and a drop is what annoys me. Thats why I said always with 3 elephants... And you knowing that a fog and 2 elephants takes out 9s was all i said and was a complement, and nothing to do with CJ. If to or 3 seconds doesn't really matter then why don't you spend that time to fish.

A reading comprehnsion class? Haha, wow. Maybe if your post was presented in a more understanding way, I would have figured it out. But to seriously get rude about it is just unecesarry. Okay, I'll cut ya a deal, I'll go to MML PG right now, and fish for 3 seconds.

[Skinny CJ Electropretzel]

Originally Posted by Phillies

Okay, if you are going to get mad over 3 or 4 seconds, you have some issues. But I'm not going to get farther into that.

A reading comprehnsion class? Haha, wow. Maybe if your post was presented in a more understanding way, I would have figured it out. But to seriously get rude about it is just unecesarry. Okay, I'll cut ya a deal, I'll go to MML PG right now, and fish for 3 seconds.

You said that's "dumb" hmmm..... I am not mad lol. Read my post again... the first one... real slow and fish the amount of time you have lured in that situation lol.(was kidding) Ummm guitar cause I'm cool.

"1 fog 2 eles and a drop or cake on the 12... please learn this combo Toontown!" I think that understandable.

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

You said that's "dumb" hmmm..... I am not mad lol. Read my post again... the first one... real slow and fish the amount of time you have lured in that situation lol.(was kidding) Ummm guitar cause I'm cool.

"1 fog 2 eles and a drop or cake on the 12... please learn this combo Toontown!" I think that understandable.

Yeah, if I was going to be rude about it, I would have said that's so stupid, omg!!

Your first post wasn't mad, but your second had a bit of an attitude in it.

And I know you were kidding, so was I.

What is understanding to one person, isn't always understanding to another. Just because you think it's understandable doesn't justify you to say I should take a comprehension class. I am on college reading/comprehension level, but I do miss some things. I am only human.

But, I'm not going to conitue our little "chat" in here because my thread will just get deleted for who knows what reason. (my threads get deleted a lot because of stuff like this. >_>) So let's just drop it, okay? This isn't a big deal, and definately not worth a thread getting deleted.

[Cool Comet Thundertoon]

Originally Posted by Roxy the red cat

I have seen sound miss on lured cogs. I don't think it is a bit of a problem if they are lured and sound missed you won't get hit anyways. But if it hits when they are lured and they die then that is great.

I agree with you Phillies in a case like that sound+lure is good.

i agree with u roxy

[Skinny CJ Electropretzel]

You're telling somebody they have "issues" and "that just dumb" and I have an attitude? It takes forever to max a toon I save time when I can, I don't lure but I don't stink toons that choose to. I may think to myself not one of them... lol. I don't see why a person that doesn't choose to lure has issues.

[Phillies]

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

You're telling somebody they have "issues" and "that just dumb" and I have an attitude? It takes forever to max a toon I save time when I can, I don't lure but I don't stink toons that choose to. I may think to myself not one of them... lol. I don't see why a person that doesn't choose to lure has issues.

Yeah, you do have an attitude. And so do I.

I didn't say someone who doesn't lure has issues, I said someone who is worried about 3 seconds being wasted has issues.

And this back and forth thing isn't going to work. Threads always get edited/deleted when this happens. So if you want to take this somewhere else, we can. Because as long as you keep posting, I have to keep posting. (A flaw of mine)

[Wolfeh]

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

It wastes time I rather take my chances on the sound hitting, I'm just impatient. It's good you know that a fog and 2 elephant will take out the 9s. When the first set of cogs comes out at the cj and theres 3 9s and a 12 sometimes or similar. I always see the weirdest gag choices toons make. 1 fog 2 eles and a drop or cake on the 12... please learn this combo Toontown!!Alway with the 3 elephants lol.

That's not a weird gag choice for 3 9's and a 12. That's a good setup there. If there is a fog and 3 ele's, then the 12 will remain and attack back. If you do 3 fog and 1 ele, then you are wasting fog's. First time I do (and I sometimes change based on what others choose), I'll whip out piano onto the 12. If someone hoses it or better, then I know it's likely to go bye-bye. Sound isn't the only way to battle the cogs.

But as for luring+sounding, while you may think it wastes time, it actually saves it. Let's say that you aren't luring and sounding, but just sounding. It keeps working and working and then suddenly, on a group of all 9's, it misses. Now, you must now only lure, but all that time you saved before, you are losing, and then losing even more time. You must lure, toonup, make sure the toonups work, and start killing one at a time. Of course, this time can be cut down if 1 lures and 3 use group toonups, so that if one toonup misses, the other 2 will catch it. Of course, if 2 or all 3 miss, then you have to repeat it. But that's why sometimes someone will see me choose to juggle balls even though 2 others are doing the same thing. It's so that if one misses, the others likely won't.

Now there are some situations where you can't lure with sound, without being wasteful, such as 12's or 11's. But when it can be helped, luring helps you time-wise more than it hurts you.

Originally Posted by King Max Electrotoon

What she is saying is true.It is a garenteed hit.Also,if you use Squirt,lure,throw,and drop then on next turn use sound & lure agian,it is a good easy win because throw,and squirt make drop more likely to hit.I did that stratergy more than 5 times,it works.

Originally Posted by tundaplaya7

How did you get 4 cogs on the street every time? I actually have never seen sound miss if all the cogs are lured. I personally dont think it can miss when all of them cogs are lured. So I will believe that when I see it.

I've seen sound miss lured cogs before (ALL cogs lured, none unlured). It does seem to happen more often when there is a mixure of lured/unlured cogs.

As for helping drop, squirt is the best helper for drop.

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

Take a reading comprehension class... I said a fog, 2 elephants and a drop or cake. The 3 elephants and a drop is what annoys me. That's why I said always with 3 elephants... And you knowing that a fog and 2 elephants takes out 9s was all i said and was a complement, and nothing to do with CJ.

Would seem as though more than 2 people thought your comment was to use fog+3ele, or that you found it weird when someone would use cake/drop when the rest were doing fog+2ele. Perhaps you need to take a course on English writing.

Originally Posted by Skinny CJ Elecropretzel

Appears you have alot of flaws.

We all have our flaws. Some more obvious and apparently uncontrollable than others.