questions about Lure gags

[Captain Hector Megaphooey]

I have a couple questions about Lure gags and accuracy:

1) If another toon uses trap, does it make your lure more likely to hit/more accurate? It seems that way to me, but I might be wrong.

2) If two toons use lure (for example, if two toons use a big magnet), does it make your lure more likely to work? I am not sure about this, but sometimes 2 toons will use lure, seemingly on purpose - like they think it will help.

3) (related to 2) If two toons use magnet, but one of the magnets is small and the other large, does that have any effect on the accuracy?

4) doesn't it seem like more experienced toons have more accuracy with their lure gags? If I (currently 87 laff points) am in the Coin or Dollar Mint, my big magnet does not seem as accurate as when a 108 laff point toon uses the same magnet. Unless they are all using organic magnets and that is the difference?

But even then, it seems to me like my lure gags hit more often than they used to as I have gotten more experience with the gags and/or more laff points. In other words, now that I have the $20 bill, my big magnet SEEMS more accurate, even when working on relatively high-level cogs.

As another example, my 63 laff point friend can't get her lures to work when we go to Donald's Dreamland buildings. I had the same problem. Now, I lure cogs there regularly. I feel like taking my friend to Donald's Dock and having her train there to gain experience with lures, because that's what SEEMED to work for me!

Can someone explain what the relationship is, if there is one?

I am currently on the $20 bill lure gag and love luring cogs. It makes the game much more enjoyable then just blowing cogs away with sound (I am maxed on sound, so I'm not trying to criticize).

Thanks for enlightening me!

[Captain Lefty Dynoglop]

1. Not that I know of.

2 and 3. Using lure of the same type, I.E both magnets, both dollar bills, will even out the chances of them hitting. The higher gag's accuracy will slightly decrease, but the lower gag's will increase. Don't put magnet+bill, magnet+goggles or bill+goggles, as that will mess up the accuracy severely.

[Captain Hector Megaphooey]

...that's a big help!

I guess I'll stop thanking people for putting out a trap after I've chosen lure. But it's still fun to work together.

Yes, I try to avoid mixing the bills and magnets, although I've seen it work before at least a couple times. I did not know it would decrease the accuracy, but I was pretty sure mixing the types would not help, so I don't try it - seems like there'd be no point.

Thanks for the insight!

[varmint]

2 mags will hold longer than one.... I have tested this out (along with others) that 2 blue mags will hold for 6 rounds everytime I have waited for the 6 rounds...the cogs usually don't last that long

[Princess Candy Poodleflipper]

4) doesn't it seem like more experienced toons have more accuracy with their lure gags? If I (currently 87 laff points) am in the Coin or Dollar Mint, my big magnet does not seem as accurate as when a 108 laff point toon uses the same magnet. Unless they are all using organic magnets and that is the difference?

Organic magnets may help, but the reason that expeirienced toons' magnets have higher accuracy, is because they are, well, more experienced. They work their lure more. The higher gag you have, the more it increases the accuracy in your lower gags. Thats why Lvl. 5 gags are very popular among maxxed toons. Because they have good accuracy, and you can carry a bunch!
~PCPF

[Captain Hector Megaphooey]

Organic magnets may help, but the reason that expeirienced toons' magnets have higher accuracy, is because they are, well, more experienced. They work their lure more. The higher gag you have, the more it increases the accuracy in your lower gags. Thats why Lvl. 5 gags are very popular among maxxed toons. Because they have good accuracy, and you can carry a bunch!

That's what I was thinking. I don't know about other gags, but when I got the higher-level $20 bill, my big magnet seemed to start working better. I actually spent a lot of time "training" with lures in Donald's Dock and TT Central with small magnets and smaller bills until I was effective enough to use my lure gags in the harder neighborhoods.

Glad to know it is not just me imagining it. Thanks!

[Princess Candy Poodleflipper]

I would reccomend Donald's Dock for traing for a few reasons:
1. There are lots of buildings.
---In building, you can take advantage of the floor multiplier. Thus awarding you with more gag experience.
1[st floor]: x.5
2: x1
3: x1.5
4: x2
5: x2.5

2. Toontown Central has many new players.
They don't understand you are trying to train gags! This may cause frustration or an unhealthy urge to stink them

Another thing to remember is invasions. These will multiply your gag experience by two! Take advantage of these times, because they may be short lived.
~PCPF

[Blinky Purplemuffin]

Originally Posted by Captain Hector Megaphooey

1) If another toon uses trap, does it make your lure more likely to hit/more accurate? It seems that way to me, but I might be wrong.
I'm not sure. That's what I've been told before, but I don't have proof.

2) If two toons use lure (for example, if two toons use a big magnet), does it make your lure more likely to work? I am not sure about this, but sometimes 2 toons will use lure, seemingly on purpose - like they think it will help.
I think a larger lure gag will increase the accuracy of your lure gag, but it might weaken their's.

3) (related to 2) If two toons use magnet, but one of the magnets is small and the other large, does that have any effect on the accuracy?
Same answer as above.

4) doesn't it seem like more experienced toons have more accuracy with their lure gags? If I (currently 87 laff points) am in the Coin or Dollar Mint, my big magnet does not seem as accurate as when a 108 laff point toon uses the same magnet. Unless they are all using organic magnets and that is the difference?
The more gag points you ahve for that gag, the more accuarte it gets, IMO.

My comments in bold.

[marioman156]

Though it may seem that trap increases lure's accuracy, it hasn't been confirmed and therefore cannot be used as a given

About the double lure thing, I'm not quite sure as I don't see any tips cofirming this.

Lure accuracy does increase as your gags get larger. It is in fact confirmed.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by marioman156

About the double lure thing, I'm not quite sure as I don't see any tips cofirming this.
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What do you mean by "tips"? Meaning are they written by the "mouse" in the users guide? There are many items that can be questioned in the guide....

Tips as in posted discussions on this website? There should be a whole discussion thread concerning this that is at least one year old. I believe Dizzy first mentioned it and it spun off a whole thread. Running 2 toons you can see and learn alot plus you are able to recreate / test over and over in a "controlled" way.

[Captain Hector Megaphooey]

Thanks for all the replies. I have been training in Donald's Dock and got my hypno-goggles today. Woo-hoo! I am a happy toon.

[The Dogfather]

1) Nope, that is just a myth. Trap will show if lure is going to work, but it does not help it. It has not been proven.

2 & 3) Depends on the size of the lure. Using the same lure in combination does not increase its accuracy. One thing, lure gags do average out when used in combination: a small lure will make a larger lure miss a big cog, but a larger lure will increase the accuracy of a small lure when trying to lure a cog.

Hypno-goggles (6) and a Blue Magnet (4): (6 + 4) ÷ 2 gags = 5. This is a lower overall lure than had you used goggles alone, but still better than using a magnet. Similar to using a $10 Bill.

I am still unsure of the values that each lure is given, but for simplification I have given each lure gag a value based on its order of appearance: 1 for $1 Bill, 2 for Red Magent...7 for Presentation.

4) Laff makes not difference when it comes to lure, just depends on how experienced the lure gag is.


The Dogfather

[Dlcs18]

I am 95% sure that Trap increases Lure accuracy. I've seen it work so better with Trap. I've seen Lure miss more times on Non-trapped cogs than on Trapped cogs.