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10-27-2006, 10:44 PM
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Organic lure question
Is anyone noticing their organic lure being any more accurate than regular lure? I have an uber I am working on who I planted lure for. The smaller organic magnets have been great on the street and really seemed to help me work my lure up to where it is now. I finally got my $10 organic and used it the other day in a VP run. I had been in a VP run with it previously (right before it was organic) and it hit every time. This time as an organic gag it only hit once. I embarassed myself by using it several times, but it failed each and every time. Even my blue magnet was missing! I thought organic lure was supposed to have a medium accuracy rating rather than low? I am debating about pulling up my lure trees and going with throw, but since my lure isn't maxxed yet maybe that will help so I want to be sure before I start tearing up trees.
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Queen Violet Hulawig * Horse * 128 * Maxed gags * Organic throw * HW50, RB50, BW50, MM Pup A. Roni * Dog * 104 * Maxed tu, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * Working on drop (piano) * HW, PP Ella Vator * Black cat * 72 * Juggling balls; maxed trap, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic trap * RB Dee Coy * Duck * 34 * Maxed lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * CC Ivanna Piza Cheese * Mouse * 102 * Maxed sound, throw, squirt and drop * Juggling balls * Organic throw * HW, PP ~ Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car, he sticks his head out the window!~ |
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10-27-2006, 10:52 PM
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I didn't start with the beginning of lure organically, but I can tell you this..
I originally planted lure on my toonupless because she used it very often. Backing up a bit, I would always lure after a friend's lure missed and say "and THAT is how you lure!" because my lure very rarely missed. A friend in Test was all excited because her new lure had medium accuracy and she was working it up quite quickly. Knowing this and knowing mine rarely missed, and of course being toonupless, I decided lure was the gag to plant. The very day my blue magnets became organic, they started missing more than they hit. Same with the $10 bills, and same with the goggles. When we got level 7 gags, I decided to dig them all up and plant sound instead. Since I did that, my lure is hitting again. Could be a coincidence but it's my story.
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10-27-2006, 11:33 PM
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Queen Violet Hulawig * Horse * 128 * Maxed gags * Organic throw * HW50, RB50, BW50, MM Pup A. Roni * Dog * 104 * Maxed tu, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * Working on drop (piano) * HW, PP Ella Vator * Black cat * 72 * Juggling balls; maxed trap, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic trap * RB Dee Coy * Duck * 34 * Maxed lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * CC Ivanna Piza Cheese * Mouse * 102 * Maxed sound, throw, squirt and drop * Juggling balls * Organic throw * HW, PP ~ Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car, he sticks his head out the window!~ |
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10-27-2006, 11:49 PM
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I planted lure on test and on open. To work up 500 points and then see the presentation miss is one big bummer. I'm going to give it a little more time before I root it up. So far, it does seem a little more accurate, but very disappointing. When compared to the impact of the other level 7 gags, I'm not recommending lure for a choice to plant.
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10-28-2006, 12:31 AM
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I dug up my lure trees on open and may well do that on test also.
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10-28-2006, 01:01 AM
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My black cat has always seemed to be cursed when it come to lure. At 109 laff with maxed lure she often gets sad trying to solo a half factory. I had pretty much given up, but when organic gags came out I planted lure and decided to try again.
Sure enough, I was left blasting off unites at the foreman as my lure missed three times in a row. It also missed twice in the boiler room. And my maxed fog missed three times. I was hoping that since they lowered the accuracy of lure after law came out, organic lure would bring it back to how it had been originally. Apparently not. I did send in a bug report, but I got an e-mail back telling me that it was intended to be that way. I somehow doubt that, but we all know Disney's reputation for excellent support. 
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10-28-2006, 02:57 AM
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Queen Violet Hulawig * Horse * 128 * Maxed gags * Organic throw * HW50, RB50, BW50, MM Pup A. Roni * Dog * 104 * Maxed tu, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * Working on drop (piano) * HW, PP Ella Vator * Black cat * 72 * Juggling balls; maxed trap, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic trap * RB Dee Coy * Duck * 34 * Maxed lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * CC Ivanna Piza Cheese * Mouse * 102 * Maxed sound, throw, squirt and drop * Juggling balls * Organic throw * HW, PP ~ Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car, he sticks his head out the window!~ |
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10-29-2006, 12:18 AM
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I finally got a chance to play my uber today and my lure hit almost 100% (only missed three times after playing a couple hours and going through several buildings). This is much better than in the VP, so I decided to leave my trees alone for now. The lure on my non-organic toon definitely doesn't hit this good. I just hope it works better for me in the VP. The only thing I can figure is my $10 bill went organic right before I went in the VP, so maybe it didn't register yet or something? Then again others are complaining about it, so who knows. I will update this after I VP to let you know how it goes!
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Queen Violet Hulawig * Horse * 128 * Maxed gags * Organic throw * HW50, RB50, BW50, MM Pup A. Roni * Dog * 104 * Maxed tu, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * Working on drop (piano) * HW, PP Ella Vator * Black cat * 72 * Juggling balls; maxed trap, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic trap * RB Dee Coy * Duck * 34 * Maxed lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * CC Ivanna Piza Cheese * Mouse * 102 * Maxed sound, throw, squirt and drop * Juggling balls * Organic throw * HW, PP ~ Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car, he sticks his head out the window!~ |
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10-29-2006, 12:51 AM
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i believe the length of the cogs lured is lengthened
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10-29-2006, 06:39 PM
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From Low to Medium
Note that the lure accuracy goes from low to medium with organic gags. Since it is a higher level gag the lenght of timed lured will also be increased for the 7th gag in proportion to the other gags. The benifit of planting lure is the increased accuracy.
Have fun in TT
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10-29-2006, 07:24 PM
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It might be as much perceptual as anything. Now that I have organic lure that hits often enough that I no longer worry about it missing, when it does miss I remember it. Mostly it misses in CFO and VP battles but not enough to make me want to change my trees to something else.
One toon I have with maxed gags has squirt trees (yeah I know "Squirt?") and his lure is not as reliable as the toons with homegrown lure (not organic, they contain pixels). It isn't flashy, no one can really tell you have it, but in my opinion it makes a huge difference. It would be interesing to get the base accuracy % from Disney for the homegrown lure but I would put it in the same range as throw. Remember also that against higher level cogs the accuracy will go down as it does with all gags. Luring 11s and 12s you will miss more often than when luring 5s and 6s. If we wanted proof we would need to do an experiment where we have two toons with maxed lure, one with trees and one without, luring all the cogs in the Factory. The factory is completly consistent for the level of cogs in each battle although the variety varies. Use the medium magnet for every battle and record your hits and misses. I would recommend having the same team save for the one doing lure. Do 3 runs with each to get a good sample and you should have a good idea of the base accuracy. I have suspected that the accuracy of lure depends on the lure skill of the other members of the team. When working a small toon with low lures I have noticed that when I am with strong toons the lure is much more accurate than when I am with small toons with low or no (gasp!) lure skill. Another factor is the health of the cog. Again just my impression but I believe lure is more accurate on cogs when they are in the red than when they are green. I have also noticed that gags can be streaky: you miss a bunch and then it goes back to normal. It may be again just a perception but it they also seem to miss more when you approach the next gag and at the beginning of a gag. In the middle it seems consistent if not as accurate as when you are maxed. Maybe Disney's accuracy program has a cyclic function where you go between higher and lower levels of overall accuracy. Or it could be coincidence and we are attributing reasons to it when it happens. It may be overthinking things but it may be that there are differences between maxed toons based on how they built the toon. If when you first got lure you started working it in 5 story Dreamland buildings and VP battles where it would be expected to fail often you might condemn yourself to a future of less accurate lure. Take those dollar bills and small magnets to Toontown Central and work it against small cogs. |
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10-29-2006, 07:44 PM
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10-29-2006, 09:04 PM
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I have the worst lure. Its horrible, my mags always miss, my bills work once in awhile, and only one out of my three googles works, most of the time. Sometimes I'll get lucky and two googles will work. So anyways, I decided to plant lure in an effort to increase my lures accuaracy. But I was dissapointed when my lure started missing more then usual. Once it became organic it never worked! So I dug up my trees and planted throw.
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10-29-2006, 11:36 PM
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Queen Violet Hulawig * Horse * 128 * Maxed gags * Organic throw * HW50, RB50, BW50, MM Pup A. Roni * Dog * 104 * Maxed tu, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * Working on drop (piano) * HW, PP Ella Vator * Black cat * 72 * Juggling balls; maxed trap, lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic trap * RB Dee Coy * Duck * 34 * Maxed lure, sound, throw and squirt * Organic throw * CC Ivanna Piza Cheese * Mouse * 102 * Maxed sound, throw, squirt and drop * Juggling balls * Organic throw * HW, PP ~ Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you?
But when you take him in a car, he sticks his head out the window!~ |
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