Run Reporting?

[-SkinnyBiscuit-]

I have gotten a couple of different answers. So I would like to somewhat clarify what actually goes into a run report.

Basically I will say things such as, One person on my side would keep choosing to trap when no one had drop and it was only a level three. Or something else like, during our whole cog side someone on my side would want to use sound when no one else did.

Are things like that OK to put in runs? Because if they aren't I dont want to be causing problems in my run reports... Not sure if anyone else posts runs this way, but I know I do so I would like to know if that is ok?

[Frostimom]

Run reports should be positive...you may give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIZM but do not point fingers or name names. The best rule of thumb is if you can't say it in a nice way just don't say it at all.

If someone is breaking rules he should be reported to an ambassador.

[Scout]

IMO it is the run report where many come to see their runs and names with maybe a PROMO pointed out (WOOHOO). I have always thought even the toughest runs could be posted in a positive way, and if it is better to not give any details, just post the facts. At least you have posted the run. Some toons may learn from the reports ("Really? I shouldn't have been trapping that cog!?") For the most part though, I think it is more helpful to copy and paste a reminder of the guidelines instead of saying "MY side had problems with a trapper".

[Rattlebones]

In addition to what has already been said...

All run reports need to conform to TTC's posting rules.
Which means you are not to post negative information about toons. You can post what happened in a general way and offer your input about strategy but I direct you to another of my thoughts...

You don't know the human behind the toon... BE NICE!

[Melody]

Originally Posted by Rattlebones

In addition to what has already been said...

All run reports need to conform to TTC's posting rules.
Which means you are not to post negative information about toons. You can post what happened in a general way and offer your input about strategy but I direct you to another of my thoughts...

You don't know the human behind the toon... BE NICE!

This is very very good advice. I can not count the number of times I have grumbled about the "bad play" of "some toon" only to find out after the run was reported that it was a young kid at the wheel. I always try and term my comments in as positive a way as possible and ask myself if my son read that report, would he be upset by how it was reported or would he learn from it. And if I let my grumbling come through - please let me know, I will be the first to say "Sorry, let's play again"

For every toon that comes into the VP to grief us and toots at every row of cogs, there are at least 5 toons run by smaller kids who have learned from the factory that every row of cogs should be greeted with thier bugle.

[smvb]

Originally Posted by Melody McBubble

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For every toon that comes into the VP to grief us and toots at every row of cogs, there are at least 5 toons run by smaller kids who have learned from the factory that every row of cogs should be greeted with thier bugle.

Good point! I had not connected those two things. Although, if someone keeps persisting in using sound when asked over and over not to, I don't know. I think my kids would get the point.

I remember my first vp run. I was totally surprised by the format, having been used to defeating four cogs at a time. The cogs continually coming out really threw me. One big laffer (I think I was a 40 or so at the time, so practically anyone was a big laffer) would use lure, and this other little duck kept targeting the one that was being (singly) lured, saying stuff like, "Go for the strongest cog first." I didn't know any better, and kept adding to the duck's choices to do the most damage to the cog. The big laffer, kept saying, "No," but I didn't understand: "Why not?" And of course, there is no speedchat response to that. She apparently didn't have "You take right." I had NO experience with anything over an 8 or 9 level cog at that time and had no concept of what combination would finish off an 11 or 12. The little duck and I both went sad, of course. I'm sure the two left were relieved. Not once did they stink us nor did they ever say anything mean toward us, though.

I didn't go back into the VP until just this last December (with CCG, once I found you guys), after reading up on the strategies, when one of my toons had reached 88, and I had gone through the mints facing larger cogs.

Anyway, the whole point to that was, you have to remember that there really is a person on the other side, and what you think is griefing may just be youth, or in my case at that time, ignorance and inexperience. Be kind in battle and in reporting the battle, just in case. Besides, if a griefer is treated kindly, perhaps they will change their ways.... Nah. Probably not. I've never understood why people enjoy causing problems for others, especially when there might be a child on the other side.

The CCG rocks! You guys are great!

(Just became a HW for the first time today! Thanks!)

Sorry for the rambling post,
Little Pancake Poodlegoober

[Alvin Twinklestink]

In my opinion: for what it is worth, (or not worth), run reports should be, in order of importance:
posted
accurate
entertaining
informative

No matter how little information you have, it is better that a run be reported than ignored.
In my reports I attempt to tell it like it happened, the good and the bad. If your run was made more difficult by events, for heaven sake say so. Tell about those errors in gag choice that you had to overcome whether you made them or others made them. But try to make it funny...I mean it usually is funny in some way or the other.

[Rattlebones]

Originally Posted by smvb

Good point! I had not connected those two things. Although, if someone keeps persisting in using sound when asked over and over not to, I don't know. I think my kids would get the point.

Just wanted to add that over the last years my kids have started playing ToonTown before they could read. So your very polite, "Let's use throw!" would be totally wasted on my kids over the years.

Granted I only have one that can't read fast enough to read on TT but he's getting there (other two would be just fine now)... The point is, you still don't know the human behind the toon. It could be a young child, it could be someone who is challenged, it could be anyone, including your great auntie Myrtle. Again, the best option is to be nice.

[-SkinnyBiscuit-]

Not to be rude, but. Should someone who can not even read be able to play toontown. I would have never guessed that someone who can not read would play toontown. That seems a little extreme.

I am not sure how young that is, but I do not think that people should go to the extreme that those on the other side of a toon can not even understand what you are doing. So basically, saying any phrase on your List might not even get acroos to someone? How pointless is that. (No Offence)

[Brrlgrrl]

I believe TT being rated "E for Everyone" means everyone, of all ages. No need to say it is "extreme" that kids of all ages play a game rated for their age, it is not.

[Bumper]

My son was one of those toons Melody McBubble was talking about. She was so nice in her comment about his run with my old, unused toon, I wrote and thanked her. He used this toon without my knowledge or help and apparently made some odd gag choices, though nobody went sad because of it. I really appreciated her comment that gave me some info but didn't blast him.

As to reading speedchat during the fight, he tries, but he's not that great a reader yet or very fast (he's had a very mixed bag when it comes to his reading lessons at school). We are trying to work on strategy, but he learns best by listening and doing, not by reading. So generally I try to talk him through things. Speedchat is just not that helpful to him, even if he reads it quickly enough and figures out that it was directed at him.

I understand the frustration this can cause others, but he loves the game and is learning more each day.

I really thank all the supportive CCG members who help the less experienced. You make this game a joy!

[TheNelly]

When i am sided with a someone totally doing his/her own thing or switch gags 3 or 4 times, or using sound on lure than i think its probably a kid playing a kids game and i have no problems with that at all.
But when there is a 120+ laffer doing such strange things then i have my doubts about it. Thats probably a "big kid" or in TT terms a griefer, someone you should report to one of the ambassadors.
But most important always remember its only a game!

[Rivn]

Originally Posted by TheNelly

When i am sided with a someone totally doing his/her own thing or switch gags 3 or 4 times, or using sound on lure than i think its probably a kid playing a kids game and i have no problems with that at all.
But when there is a 120+ laffer doing such strange things then i have my doubts about it. Thats probably a "big kid" or in TT terms a griefer, someone you should report to one of the ambassadors.
But most important always remember its only a game!

Or that 120+ laffer doing strange things could be the sneaky kid who sneaked onto Mummy's toon when she wasn't looking!

Yikes! Hee hee!

[Alvin Twinklestink]

Originally Posted by Melody McBubble

For every toon that comes into the VP to grief us and toots at every row of cogs, there are at least 5 toons run by smaller kids who have learned from the factory that every row of cogs should be greeted with thier bugle.

I have a first grader grandson who is not all that good at reading..well actually I think he is just plain bad at reading. And forget speedchat speaking! Fortunately, his parents will not let him run toontown without supervision. He is obsessed with getting his hands on Alvin and using those level seven gags. Once, I left him alone for 2 minutes while he was creating a new toon on my account and when I got back he had Alvin headed for a 5 story building! Fortunately, he is pretty much limited to toontown central with his toon since his attention span is too short for the long run to other neighborhoods. But I know that there are other kids that show up anywhere! So, knowing this, I always think first "it is a little kid". And yes, little kids do swipe big toons. One day a high level TF of Alvin's teleported in..just stood there staring at Alvin...answered every question with, "Yes". Then teleported away. I don't know where he went but I found out later it was the four or five year old son who was driving.

[Princess Penny Bumberpoof]

Amen to that Alvin! I have a little one that just loves to watch me do the boss fights and she wants to do the jumping for me in the VP. Which I will allow her to do as long as I am doing the driving (and secretly have my thumb hovering over the Ctrl key on the side of the keyboard away from her!). But I found out the hard way that to a four-year old that is pretty much the same thing as saying "Go ahead, do whatever you will with my toon".

I made the mistake of leaving Princess on the CFO porch while waiting for a scheduled run and stepping away for a few minutes. I came back just in time to see her throw out the last of I don't really want to know how many unites to what had to be a very bewildered crowd! She loves to see the beans fly and if those are all gone, well hey, toon ups and gag ups look pretty nice too. I was SO mad but had to admit it was pretty funny. My point (finally) is that you really never know who is "driving". My case may have been an extreme example but it does happen.

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