Course Glitchers

[Flippers]

Two days in a row I've had to contend with glitchers running outside the course.

What's up with that? Are toons with 120s and 130s laff SO scared to miss the maze and make their 20 back at the puzzle? You really have to wonder how some toons get that high if skill wasn't a factor and they can't just play the game. It's not like the cog courses are hard.

[Tom The Cat]

Originally Posted by Flippers McGurgle

Two days in a row I've had to contend with glitchers running outside the course.

What's up with that? Are toons with 120s and 130s laff SO scared to miss the maze and make their 20 back at the puzzle? You really have to wonder how some toons get that high if skill wasn't a factor and they can't just play the game. It's not like the cog courses are hard.

Some people are lazy and don't want to do any more work than they have to. Others have several other things going on at the same time and don't want to pay any more attention to Toontown than necessary. Such people glitch everything that saves them time; many of them want to sound their way through everything.

The problem with this attitude is that one doesn't learn much strategy. I've been in Mints with toons who were all 110+ laff, all of whom stumbled around with their gag selection the first time sound missed. I'm sure there are toons with 120+ laff who have maxed or nearly maxed all four cog suits and who couldn't pass a Strategy 101 quiz that included any questions that weren't related to sound.

[Loopy Scooter Gigglewig]

I still don't understand how maze glitching is linked to the grey box.

I will, however, agree with you that the number of glitchers has increased exponentially.

[Midnite Purr]

I'm sure it will be like all of the other HQs. When I first starting doing mints, I hardly ever saw anyone glitch through stuff. Now, I almost never see toons who don't glitch.

The DA was full of glitchers skipping the puzzles. Again, these puzzles are not hard.

The factory.... well, now people start yelling at each other if they don't glitch the wall to the silos.

It's only a matter of time before it is more common to glitch the mazes than to do them. Unless, the devs decide to put effort into fixing them. However, when they fixed the DA glitches, they opened up that horrible problem of coming out of an elevator into grey where we had to run for what felt like hours to catch up to the group. Good memories.

[Purr Fection]

I can tell you why some people, even the 130+ toons glitch. My friends and I have figured out all of the hard mazes on floors 4, 7 and 8 of a back 9. We are all over 130 LP. We will usually run the mazes except under one circumstance. I run 2 toons on 2 differenet computers on back 9s quite regularly. I can manuever the other 6 puzzles no problem with 2 toons at once. However, the 90 sec mazes of 4, 7 and 8 are just a bit much to run 2 toons at once, so I will glitch with one or both toons. I think that a lot of people just want to get through with it. The back 9s are very long and you can glitch and take a break while the other toons struggle through them.

[Flippers]

Well I havent been to the back 9. No rush lol

But none of them made enough difference in their time and one kept losing 20 laff for following their friend through the hedges. So not only does it take running blind through the grey marble, you need to run backwards at the mole stomp instead of through the door just to run a wide arc around the real path. It doesnt save anything.

The factory.... well, now people start yelling at each other if they don't glitch the wall to the silos.

Since I dont do random runs much, this has become a nonissue, but I'm surprised there isnt more tolerance as people upgrade their systems.

As for the DA glitching, that isnt so common because people like to do them and by the time the glitcher gets there the puzzle is usually solved - if they havent tripped it WHILE someone was on the grid and crashed them because they had to show how clever they were to cheat the system, thus sabotaging the run for everyone while the stuck toon closes their window to restart - and prays for a connection back to NR.

Well, anyway I wish there was a distinction for knowing who's going to be part of the group or glitch around everything. They truly take the fun out of the game.

[Little Sadie Twinkleberry]

I honestly don't see how it takes the fun out of anyones game. I never see glitchers in 3 or 6 holes anymore though. I do see some in 9 holes. I usually follow the crowd in the 9 holes. If everyone glitches I will follow. If they do the mazes I will follow so I can learn. What they decide to do doesn't affect my game or take the fun out of it. Since I live in the back 9s now I just go with the flow. They are boring enough as it is.

[Trickysticks]

I ususally glitch the mazes, but I dont just go around, I pop through a wall and scare the others I know the mazes very well, and I never lose anyway, why not make the other see me pop out and say"I think this place is haunted"?

[McBee]

I have noticed an increase as well, but it doesn't bug me. I also just go with the flow, and with randoms the majority of the time I'll do the mazes. I don't really understand why it bothers some so much though. If you want to do the mazes, by all means do them, nobody is taking that away from you. Why is it so important that everyone else do exactly what you do? Maze glitchers do NOT slow you down and they do NOT cause your game to slow or put you in a grey box. I've done enough back 9's with all sorts of mixes and I can tell you that in my experience glitching or not makes no difference to the gameplay. The only theory I can come up with for people being that annoyed at the glitchers is they hope they can be led the way to the cogs.

[Brrlgrrl]

Noisy was almost maxed before I learned how to glitch the mazes. Before this, I had to learn the mazes and more often than not ran them on two toons on two computers at the same time. I don't really see a point to glitching the mazes in the front three or middle six, but it is easier on the back nine.

After gathering 412,770 options I will glitch any maze I feel like. After now gathering over 825,540 options, I will continue to glitch any maze I feel like. Normally, if others aren't glitching, I don't. I don't really understand why so many feel the need to come here and complain about it.

[Miss Flip Flipperfoot]

Originally Posted by Flippers McGurgle

Well I havent been to the back 9. No rush lol

Well, anyway I wish there was a distinction for knowing who's going to be part of the group or glitch around everything. They truly take the fun out of the game.

Since you've yet to experience the back 9's, it might be a good suggestion to remain open minded. They are boring when you have so many of them to do and yes, it does speed up the process if all of you glitch the mazes.

Originally Posted by Little Sadie Twinkleberry

I honestly don't see how it takes the fun out of anyones game. I never see glitchers in 3 or 6 holes anymore though. I do see some in 9 holes. I usually follow the crowd in the 9 holes. If everyone glitches I will follow. What they decide to do doesn't affect my game or take the fun out of it. Since I live in the back 9s now I just go with the flow. They are boring enough as it is.

Everyone pays for their game just like everyone else does. Enjoy it, have fun and quit worrying about what everyone else is doing. As long as you're doing what you want, be happy!

[Dawn Ov Anudae]

Originally Posted by Brrlgrrl

Noisy was almost maxed before I learned how to glitch the mazes. Before this, I had to learn the mazes and more often than not ran them on two toons on two computers at the same time. I don't really see a point to glitching the mazes in the front three or middle six, but it is easier on the back nine.

After gathering 412,770 options I will glitch any maze I feel like. After now gathering over 825,540 options, I will continue to glitch any maze I feel like. Normally, if others aren't glitching, I don't. I don't really understand why so many feel the need to come here and complain about it.

Add me to the 412,770 (my goodness..)group. Is it maze glitch moan day again already? Don't we have a department that handles these complaints somewhere? I personally don't care if you run. or glitch the mazes. Just as long as you assist in stomping the moles. Please explain how it messes with your game play with someone not doing the mazes. I've seen a few glitchers in the all the back nines Ive done, some even helpful to teach the glitch. Let's try to remember that some experience lag in the cog courses, and run two toons at time. If glitching for them gets me to the end quicker,then so be it. You know the mazes are easy. unless you are someone that needs led to the end. If you can get to the end all on your own then who cares what others are doing?

[Beaniemooch]

I'm very confused as to why we have to have multiple threads complaining about glitchers in the maze. I believe this has been covered several times over. Some will glitch, some will not. I know the mazes and run them on 3s and 6s. I am usually running 2 toons and, while I know the back mazes having done them over and over and over, I find it easier with dual toons to glitch. You don't have to. If you are stuck in the grey and communicate that to me I'll even take one of my toons back and run the maze for you so what's the big deal? I think its time for the next subject, this one is old.

[tgibbsjr]

Skill and strategy with Whack a Mole or Mazes? Don't see where Strategy 101 has do with those games. I did a 9 with a friend today. All the people in the group glitched, and didn't slow me down. And I have a 2yo PC. So I don't get the "slow down" thing either. And this mysterious gray can happen without someone glitching. All I had to do was follow the leader. I was fine after that cogball game.

While performing the glitch, I noticed something. Has anyone noticed the trees in the gray zone? Why are the trees there? Could it be that the devs put them there to let folks know that it is ok? I know it's conjecture as far as that is concerned.

I'm of the mind, live and let live. If it is a pain to watch others glitch, then I would recommend bailing. Or just swallow your pride and play together to get through.

[Flippers]

Originally Posted by Miss Flip Flipperfoot

Since you've yet to experience the back 9's, it might be a good suggestion to remain open minded. They are boring when you have so many of them to do and yes, it does speed up the process if all of you glitch the mazes.

Think by second post it was clear this was either in the front three or middle six. Dont really feel your suggestion is warranted at this time but thanks.

Based on my experience enough of the time was wasted waiting for them to find their way out or run out of time, so I feel at this point based on experience, I've got a pretty good idea as to what is helping or hindering.

Actually I tend to do front threes with 1 or 2 friends in quiet places. I only do the middle sixes with randoms now. From what I've seen going through, it looks like enough prefer to do 23k in shorter bites and run the 6s. I might do that. It's fun and I dont want to burn out.