last 2 fish...major gripe here...

[Dee Rockenroni]

I think there were only 40 fish when I started & I had most of them. Sell HQ wasn't open yet. I remember seeing a toon over 100 laff & wondering how on earth he got that high. Anything over 90 was incredible. The foreman in the factory was I believe a 12. I know it took alot to get through. We lost parts everytime we did VP & got less merits for a factory.
All of which, I think was kind of unfair to change & make easier for newer toons. So if they can make all these things so much easier...
Why can't they make fishing just a bit easier? Or at the very least let's say catch 20,000 more fish & we will give a lottery ticket of some sort, good for a free fish at the pet shop.

[Featherzapper]

Originally Posted by evers1234

I dont think its worth it to be fishing for years to get a fish that will give you one measly little laff point

To each his own! Some people like fishing, others don't. I personally don't mind it now.

[The Dogfather]

Originally Posted by evers1234

I dont think its worth it to be fishing for years to get a fish that will give you one measly little laff point

That is very understandable, but do consider this is that last laff boost is what separates a 132 from a 131. If it were easy to reach 132 then everyone would be doing it. A 132 laff toon is worth applauding due to all the hard work. Maxing a toon is not for everyone, so we all stop when we feel most comfortable.


The Dogfather

[Chester]

Don't stress yourself over fishing! "It's just a game." Just do like a certain number of buckets a day (I did around 200). I have to admit...that worked for a couple of weeks, but then I gave up...I took a break from Toontown for a few weeks, came back, and boom. On my third bucket I caught my Devil Ray.

[Sourmash]

I agree that hard work is what it takes to accoomplish anything in TT or in RL. The statement that maxxing a toon in TT is not for everyone is certainly true. BUT!!!

The idea that it just takes hard work is not true. The work I have done fishing would compare with any 132 LP toon. I would put the number of fish I have caught in TT up against anyone. I have played TT since before Sellbot HQ and at times have devoted hours to catching the fish. If you count all the fish I have caught in 4 years of playing and compare them to the numbers being caught now in just a few weeks or months, I think I compare with anyone. Just because I don't have the time to catch 100,000 in one week does not indicate that I have not done the work to catch all the fish.

Since I still need 3 species to get that revered 132 on two toons, I have come to the realization that the spinning data base attached to the end of my rod is just not going to cooperate with me.

I agree with the idea that after a certain number of fish a toon should be rewarded in some way. Set the numbers high, but let there be light at the end of the tunnel.

A little off subject, but a comparison would be the golf. I think the number of courses is set too high, but at least a player knows he can reach his goal if he plays hard. With fishing, it is entirely possible to fish for ever and not catch them all.

As Disney has told me in the past, "Read the players guide and keep on fishing" HA HA!!

[Captain Popcorn Hucklegoober]

It's a GAME!!! Games were meant to be fun, not to lay around all day hoping you have the 1 in 100,000 chance of getting a rare fish for one stinkin laff point, even though it is hard work! Theres no point to a game if you cant have fun. Thinking you HAVE to have 132 laff points is like setting a goal that pushes you over the limit. Why would you fish when you could do a building or such? Why have the fame? Why spend 2 hours a day to find NOTHING??? Just give up and have fun, or quit the game altogether. Its your choice and that fish doesnt control you.

[Captain Popcorn Hucklegoober]

Originally Posted by Chester

Don't stress yourself over fishing! "It's just a game." Just do like a certain number of buckets a day (I did around 200). I have to admit...that worked for a couple of weeks, but then I gave up...I took a break from Toontown for a few weeks, came back, and boom. On my third bucket I caught my Devil Ray.

Dang, you beat me. Ah well, I'm repeating a point... *grumble*

[The Dogfather]

Originally Posted by Sourmash

The idea that it just takes hard work is not true.

IT is hard work, because regardless if you catch your last few fish in 20,000 fish or in 150,000 fish, reaching 132 is always hard work, its just some of us have to work harder than others due to not having the luck.

Originally Posted by Sourmash

I agree with the idea that after a certain number of fish a toon should be rewarded in some way. Set the numbers high, but let there be light at the end of the tunnel.

I say keep fishing the same with the odds they currently have, but as soon as someone has hit so many thousands of fish (like 30,000 just for one fish), then I think they should make the odds better for that individual. The odds are ridiculous, and this shows why TT is not only a kid game, but a whole family game.

Originally Posted by Sourmash

A little off subject, but a comparison would be the golf. I think the number of courses is set too high, but at least a player knows he can reach his goal if he plays hard. With fishing, it is entirely possible to fish for ever and not catch them all.

As Disney has told me in the past, "Read the players guide and keep on fishing" HA HA!!

Yup, too many courses to do. In all, its not about making it fun or challenging for us, its about "how long can we keep them playing?"

The Dogfather

[MamaJ]

I seriously cant stop laughing, not at you, with you. The dedication. I have 8 more togo. I dont fish for 8 hour shifts, nor have I ever done 50 buckets in a day, but I admire those of you that have. Margaret where are you? Lets go fishing.

[MamaJ]

Originally Posted by mildew102

When you say two months -- how many hours per day or buckets per day?

For those of you who have managed to do this, how do you manage to keep focused and not run off to do the CFO or a 5 story building?

My last post I wanted to quote this.

[Cuckoo Toppenhoffer]

I think the key here is "patience" and how much time and effort you are willing to put in it.

[The Dogfather]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo Toppenhoffer

I think the key here is "patience" and how much time and effort you are willing to put in it.

Thats the thing is people do have the patience to fish for a handfull of months, but not for a whole year or more. The odds are low enough that "everyone" has the potential to catch them all, but just too high to catch them within a reasonable timeframe. Reasonable I say in 6 months or less.

The Dogfather

[Sourmash]

Hey Dogfather, thanks for your thoughts and expertise on fishing. Patience is most definitely the key to playing TT. Most of the goals and rewards are attainable if a player sticks with it and has the gift of patience, but I think you may have missed my point.

What is the difference between the thousands of fish I have caught in 4 years of playing, and the same number of a player who has been playing 6 months. Like you said, its luck. Since you said its luck, you must then agree thats it is not hard work that gets the 70 species. To look at my 131 toon and say that player hasn't done the work, is not true. Numbers or numbers.

I have done the work. Not in 6 months or 2 weeks, but it is done. Why should I have to keep catching bucket after bucket without a new species? I repeat, let there be a light at the end of the tunnel. I will leave it up to you and the other expert fishermen to debate how that light should appear.

[The Dogfather]

Originally Posted by Sourmash

Hey Dogfather, thanks for your thoughts and expertise on fishing. Patience is most definitely the key to playing TT. Most of the goals and rewards are attainable if a player sticks with it and has the gift of patience, but I think you may have missed my point.

Anytime, Im always willing to help someone out (If I can).

Originally Posted by Sourmash

What is the difference between the thousands of fish I have caught in 4 years of playing, and the same number of a player who has been playing 6 months. Like you said, its luck. Since you said its luck, you must then agree thats it is not hard work that gets the 70 species. To look at my 131 toon and say that player hasn't done the work, is not true. Numbers or numbers.

I do agree if you fish and catch all 70 fish in a few thousand, that is not at all hard work. But if you have someone that has fished for months and has totaled 100,000+ then that is hard work. If you are lucky, takes no work at all.

Originally Posted by Sourmash

I have done the work. Not in 6 months or 2 weeks, but it is done. Why should I have to keep catching bucket after bucket without a new species? I repeat, let there be a light at the end of the tunnel. I will leave it up to you and the other expert fishermen to debate how that light should appear.

I wish you the best of luck on these last fish, because what it comes down to is luck. Since it is random probability, there is no set of rituals that can help (although there are a lot out there that people have come up with), except for keep fishing and just hope for the best.

Not sure how this can help, but any of my friends, others that have PMed me over the last few months, and people I have collected data from; I have noticed that the longer breaks they take from one species to the next, the longer it seems to get drawn out. I have no proof that this is fact, but it seems that continuous fishing helps out, and long breaks such as a few weeks or months from one fish to the next makes it more difficult.


The Dogfather

[Matt Wild Horse]

Originally Posted by The Dogfather

Not sure how this can help, but any of my friends, others that have PMed me over the last few months, and people I have collected data from; I have noticed that the longer breaks they take from one species to the next, the longer it seems to get drawn out. I have no proof that this is fact, but it seems that continuous fishing helps out, and long breaks such as a few weeks or months from one fish to the next makes it more difficult.


The Dogfather

Yes, now you got it. And I will go one step further. People that only fish a few buckets at a time will take much longer to catch there fish than someone that fishes 50 buckets at a time. It may be random probability, but then that means you need to increase your opprotunities to catch it. I would also venture to say that the fish isn't always available. It may only be available to catch at let's say for example between 1:15 and 1:20 PM and you have a 1 in 1000 chance of catching it when you cast but only if you cast during that time frame.

I say this about the fish not always being available because sometimes when I am fishing I will get a ultra and a few buckets later get another of that same ultra. Seems strange to fish for days without seeing an ultra and then see 2 of them in a few buckets.

There is other oddities to fishing that I have noticed. Like some days are just really really lucky days for a certain toons. I have seen toons catch all there ultras in one day. I have never had this happen to me, but I have had days that I keep pulling in ultras and records. And then I have had days that I will fish 100 buckets and not even get a new record let alone any ultra rares or new species. For this reason I think people that want to max fishing need to fish everyday 50 buckets in one sitting.

I wish everyone the best of luck out there. I would love to help anyone the best I can. I believe you all can do it.

Good Luck,
Matt