andrew VP SOLO from start to finish

[andrew]

After much practice and even more practice, andrew has successfully soloed the VP from start to finish.

This was one of the last major achievements that I've been working on and I am pleased to report that I have successfully completed this task.

Now onto the details:

Lure missed on the lone level 12 COG (-20 laff damage).
Then a level 1 and level 12 COG join in the fight.
Of course, lure misses again, and I'm down 40 more laff (-60 laff damage total). Now, until you use that first TU TOW, you haven't really committed to the battle. So, after sounding the 2 level 12 and 1 level 1, out come a level 10 and level 9 COG. At this point, I consider trying again but, somehow, my magnet seems to work. I finish off both level 12 and the level 10 and use my first of many max TU TOW.......The battle begins.

There were 45 COGS/SKELS and a lot of them were level 10s, 11s, and 12. The first 3 COGS out were level 12, level 1, and level 12. My lure didn't work worth more times than it did and it was NOT a pretty battle but I did, in the end, win.

Here's the stats on the COG/SKEL rounds:

COG ROUND
1 MAX TU
1 80 TU
1 GAG ALL
Lots of doodle calls (which didn't work).

When I got to the end of the COG round, I had a level 1 COG and repeatedly lured and tried to doodle toonup which didn't work as well as I would have liked.

The Skel Round is what really killed me:
SKEL ROUND:
2 Max TU TOW
2 80 TU TOW
2 40 TU TOW
2 20 TU TOW
2 10 TU TOW
4 GAG ALL TOW
1 Frank N (Drop) and it hit
1 Daffy Don

The VP battle had me very worried and I didn't take a lot of pictures. I will post them shortly (assuming that I can POST pictures again)

Anyway, the start of the VP battle went really really well. I stunned quickly, drove him back to the edge, then backed up and stunned while he was just off the 1st platform on the ramp. I got excited and missed all of the push back throws and had to calm myself down.

I was really worried on the ramps and only went up about 3/4 of the way before I turned and started throwing pies. I was able to land about 5-7 push back shots before he quit being stunned. The first ramp went OK but I kept getting excited and messing up plus my view was never in the right position and I didn't have a good look at when the VP was targetting me which hurt while on the ramps.

The 2nd platform went quickly and he got stuck on the 2nd ramp but I kept pushing and got him to the bottom platform.

On the bottom platform, he got jumpy and started doing weird combinations like spin, jump, spin and I wasn't used to it. I had about 72 left on the bottom platform but I just kept moving into his spins and then the gears would hit. I also starting taking pictures.

But, I didn't use any toonup TOW during the VP battle.

Again, I will post pictures shortly.

[andrew]

Enjoy!!!!!

[DJ Max]

Great job Andrew! "I'm green with envy!" Can't wait to max my selbot suit (I'm not far from that ) to take the chalenge of soloing VP!
Once again - Bravo!

Very good description of the whole battle too! Thanks - it will be very usefull.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

I suspect I'm going to get some neg-rep for this...but since that likelihood has never stopped me before:

Something just doesn't seem right: I would expect to see a lot more points in throw than just 18.

Isn't the multiplier in VP 2? (I assume it's the same as in the fac, but to be honest I've never actually looked...that I can remember, anyway.) So how would you even get 18: One cake (12) and one cream pie slice (6)? But even if the multiplier is 1.5 then we're still only talking about 2 cakes. I would expect a lot more than that to be used.

Another thing that struck me as strange: How, when you used your Gag-up:All phrases, did you keep from getting any canes (TU)?

[xXOrdinaryXx]

Wow!!That was amazing.I really think that you can solo anything at this point

[Melody]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

I suspect I'm going to get some neg-rep for this...but since that likelihood has never stopped me before:

Something just doesn't seem right: I would expect to see a lot more points in throw than just 18.

Isn't the multiplier in VP 2? (I assume it's the same as in the fac, but to be honest I've never actually looked...that I can remember, anyway.) So how would you even get 18: One cake (12) and one cream pie slice (6)? But even if the multiplier is 1.5 then we're still only talking about 2 cakes. I would expect a lot more than that to be used.

Another thing that struck me as strange: How, when you used your Gag-up:All phrases, did you keep from getting any canes (TU)?

If you use a TOW toonup during a hit that would have killed you, it resets the points that you can earn. You only earn gag points AFTER the TOW was used. No answer for the gag up, unless he still had small throw/sound/squirt left and it only had enough spots to fill the top spots.

[wildflower]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

I suspect I'm going to get some neg-rep for this...but since that likelihood has never stopped me before:

Something just doesn't seem right: I would expect to see a lot more points in throw than just 18.

Isn't the multiplier in VP 2? (I assume it's the same as in the fac, but to be honest I've never actually looked...that I can remember, anyway.) So how would you even get 18: One cake (12) and one cream pie slice (6)? But even if the multiplier is 1.5 then we're still only talking about 2 cakes. I would expect a lot more than that to be used.

Another thing that struck me as strange: How, when you used your Gag-up:All phrases, did you keep from getting any canes (TU)?

As far as the gag-up all, he doesn't state exactly when these were used in the battle, so the picture of his gags may have been taken before they were used. As I looked at that picture, I would assume that he started out with no TU or Trap, as he would not have needed them since he was alone in battle. Just my 2c

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by Melody McBubble

If you use a TOW toonup during a hit that would have killed you, it resets the points that you can earn. You only earn gag points AFTER the TOW was used.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying: Do you mean that all points earned to that point (in time) are lost and you start from zero? Or do you mean that [only] the points earned on that turn are lost? I'm not sure the former would be the case since the points in sound and lure don't seem to be proportionally affected. I'm not sure the latter would explain it either since the likelihood of that set of circumstances occurring almost exclusively after a throw is rather low. It's not impossible, but it's not likely either.

No answer for the gag up, unless he still had small throw/sound/squirt left and it only had enough spots to fill the top spots.

Originally Posted by Melody McBubble

As far as the gag-up all, he doesn't state exactly when these were used in the battle, so the picture of his gags may have been taken before they were used. As I looked at that picture, I would assume that he started out with no TU or Trap, as he would not have needed them since he was alone in battle.

Look at the screenshot showing his gags: He's picking gags with only two remaining damaged skelecogs in front of him. This seems to be late in the skelecog round (given that there are only two cogs and neither are fresh), and he's got 77 gags. The facts tell us that he's used a Gag-up: All three turns ago. Does either hypothesis fit the facts as we can see them?

To me, something's not adding up.

**Edit**Trap is certainly useful even when alone. I would find it very surprising if he actually went with none.

[Melissa]

Once again, congratulations…..

Although I didn’t join you in a separate district as planed this time, but I’m very happy that I was able to be there with you for your celebration.

Your great accomplishment inspired me and for sure the other toons to give it a try very soon.

~Melissa

[doc quackenheimer]

Congrats, it looks like you really got the pie fight part working. Excellent observation on the gag points and an even better explanation from Melody. On the slots filled, gag up all have to be used frequently, so gags lower than level 5 usually aren’t filled. Anyone trying this should probably follow Andrews example and only use gag up all and not other restocks unless you’ve only used maybe 5 gags before you restock lure or throw, ect. I made the mistake of restocking lure with a lot of open slots and ended up with something like 40 lures. Fortunately for me you can burn off extra lure (at the end of the cog round) to open slots for restock all. I’m glad you made it without TOW in the pie fight but I agree now it would have been fine to use. A lot of players have been very focused on CFO and not VP in the last year so trying a VP solo with only a brief period of practice is a great accomplishment, with or without TOW. Great job!!!

PS anyone looking to try this, if you can get a few Barnacle Bessies, and a few lure SOS you can blow through the Skelecog round very quickly.

[Crazy Orville Bumbleberry]

You did it!
Hooray!
thats the ticket!

[BerryCuteBunny]

people can do vp all alone but sometimes a group of 8 cant handle it!!!
GREAT JOB!!





Happy Holidays

[andrew]

I would like to thank the following toons for helping me train my VP stunning skills:

Melissa - You take right, I'll take left. Need I say anymore?
doc quackenheimer - You're video was the key to enabling me to understand the single pie cycle quick release strategy.
Princess Emilie - Yes, I like my look also and yes, someone helped pick them out (refer to top of this list).
BJ - Thanks for helping me get through the COG/SKEL run. I understand that you don't have lure and aren't planning to solo the CFO, but if you would like to try and solo the CFO battle portion, I'm sure that I could round up a couple of toons to help get you through the COG/SKEL portion. Consider it an open-ended offer.

My future plans consists of restocking toonup TOW and building my little test toon.

-andrew

[BerryCuteBunny]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

I suspect I'm going to get some neg-rep for this...but since that likelihood has never stopped me before:

Something just doesn't seem right: I would expect to see a lot more points in throw than just 18.

Isn't the multiplier in VP 2? (I assume it's the same as in the fac, but to be honest I've never actually looked...that I can remember, anyway.) So how would you even get 18: One cake (12) and one cream pie slice (6)? But even if the multiplier is 1.5 then we're still only talking about 2 cakes. I would expect a lot more than that to be used.

Another thing that struck me as strange: How, when you used your Gag-up:All phrases, did you keep from getting any canes (TU)?

YOU KNOW LOOKING AGAIN AT THE PHOTOS I SEE WHAT YOUR SAYING... I WOULD THINK HIS POINTS WOULD BE A LOT HIGHER... EVEN MY 13 YEAR OLD THINKS IT... BUT I SAY WHO CARES... IF YOU DID IT CONGRATS AND IF YOU DIDNT...O WELL... HES NOT GETTING ANY SPECIAL AWARDS FOR IT SO LET HIM HAVE HIS FUN!

[Freddy Whatzit]

Originally Posted by BerryCuteBunny

IF YOU DID IT CONGRATS AND IF YOU DIDNT...O WELL...

He did it. I too wondered about the numbers, but only in a "what's up with that" sense, not a "he's obviously lying" sense. Others have explained why the numbers are what they are, which I found very interesting because I didn't know that would happen.

I have no doubt he did it. He's got excellent skills and a very good reputation, and it's been clear from other posts that he's been preparing to do this. There's no reason to doubt him.