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Old 06-15-2005, 09:07 PM
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First, let me say her "statement" was indeed a theory. Since Sandy has not been in the CFO she made a guess as to why dropping safes on goons is bad. A theory is a hypothesis which in turn is an assumption, or guess.
LOL, I know what a theory is, ok? Secondly, She edited it! That's why she said she "thinks". At first she basically said it WAS. So before you start acting like I am wrong, please get the chance to read the original posts.

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Old 06-15-2005, 09:10 PM
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LOL, I know what a theory is, ok? Secondly, She edited it! That's why she said she "thinks". At first she basically said it WAS. So before you start acting like I am wrong, please get the chance to read the original posts.

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I read her "original" post..thank you. Now, would you please read the rest of my post and stay on topic? Is my THEORY correct?
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:12 PM
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I read her "original" post..thank you. Now, would you please read the rest of my post and stay on topic? Is my THEORY correct?
Her original post wasn't even a theroy fyi.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:14 PM
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I read her "original" post..thank you. Now, would you please read the rest of my post and stay on topic? Is my THEORY correct?
LOL, Hey, don't act like I am an idiot and I will "stay on topic", THANKYOU!



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Old 06-15-2005, 09:16 PM
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Ahem... Getting to the topic...


Yes, one toon can definitely kill everyone in the cfo.
To answer the question that has been popping up, When a toon gets a crane, that toon has the power to do many things...this includes KILLING the WHOLE group. There is more than one way to completely mess up this group. One way, of course, is by continuously throwing safes on the cfo's head, now, to stop this you must get that toon off of the crane as soon as possible. However, if he stays on(does not get hit by anything), there is where your group has a problem. You can't do anything with someone throwing safes every chance, and then grabbing another safe ready for when someone knocks it off. This can kill a group. Next, this is the more direct way to kill a group. A toon grabs a crane, and uses the safes to kill every single goon that is walking around. No goons to throw, no way the cfo battle is victorious. Although never having this happen, I understand completely what Kalan is saying. Sorry it happened to ya kalan, but I am sure you're ready for a win the next battle!

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Thank you...that is all I wanted to know.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:19 PM
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Thank you...that is all I wanted to know.
Yes, now you finally see I tried to get on topic before you brought it off again... Oh and, that's my last "off topic" comment. Through with the thread.


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Old 06-15-2005, 09:23 PM
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We all died last night because of one toon, what did one toon do that sealed our fate?? He safed all the yellow goons, Now I want new CFO'ers to think about this, what will happen if you kill all the yellow goons with safes? No big guys answer, think about it.
One craner may be able to crushed all goons on his side of the cfo, but how about the goons coming out from the other side? How was he able to destroy them? Or was there another craner doing it on the other side?
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:24 PM
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Her original post wasn't even a theroy fyi.
Her initial post, even worded the way it was, was indeed a theory. Simply because you were unable to recognize it as such does not mean it was not.

And LBC was accusatory and hostile in his response: Put more simply: He attacked her.

Grow up and leave her alone...both of you!
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:30 PM
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Her initial post, even worded the way it was, was indeed a theory. Simply because you were unable to recognize it as such does not mean it was not.

And LBC was accusatory and hostile in his response: Put more simply: He attacked her.

Grow up and leave her alone...both of you!
Sorry you apprently don't get it. She was never making a theory she was agreeing with someone. The arguement of the theroy and not theory was over intill you posted again without reading and understand.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:43 PM
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LBC was attacking her without a doubt. That imperious attitude of his rears it's ugly head yet again. Be careful or you'll tarnish your halo.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:49 PM
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I'm a little curious about this myself. I know that if a safe is dropped on a Goon, it smashes the Goon to pieces, but I don't see how one craner is capable of ruining the entire fight.
The crane, at best, covers a quarter of the room. It actually seems to be less then that, but let's keep things simple. That leaves three quarters of the room covered by craners whom, since you said that it was one Toon that caused the problem, we can consider competent crane operators who knew what they were doing. I highly doubt the Goons would be swarming in just one quarter of the room, leaving the remaining three quarters empty. Thusly, there would be Goons outside the reach of this one Toon's crane who could be stunned, picked up with the crane, and thrown. I am aware that a crane can toss safes beyond it's quarter of the room, but it would be pretty difficult to target Goons in every part of the vault.
Futhermore, unless the C.F.O. is stunned, new Goons keep coming out of him. Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that this Toon destroyed all Goons within his/her reach and all the Goons in the other parts of the room had been thrown. The C.F.O. would release new Goons, and on both sides, so the odds that all Goons would flock to the area covered by this one Toon seems all but impossible. Besides, the C.F.O.'s attacks are very easy to dodge, so if there's no Goons around, how can you go sad, even if there weren't any treasures? You'd simply wait until new Goons came out, then stomp them and fling them at the C.F.O. Even if he targeted Goons as soon as they came out, you could just hop off the cranes and avoid the C.F.O.'s attacks until he targets that one Toon, knocks him/her off, and take his/her crane.

I'm interested to find out how you manage to attibute the entire team's loss to the action of one craner.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:58 PM
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in my thread,I asked for little toons to guess and she did. It's a combo of things that happen, 1. No toon-ups on that side, 2. no goons stunning, to throw, 3. reds start coming out when the CFO is barely stunnable, all 3 happen together, the other craners had hard time staying on the cranes after all the reds came out. The yellows wear the CFO down so the safes can be used. This guy smashed 20 yellows before big trouble happened, I tryed to save it by throwing and running to other crane, though I was not on the crane in the begiining, and that might have saved it, if I was, meaning the other craners maybe not enough exper. when it gets crazy. Be Nice!!!!

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Old 06-15-2005, 10:59 PM
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I just wanted to say that while evil toons may try to ruin a CFO fight, good craners can stop them.

How: If a toon is trying to kill a group, another craner can steal their safes while the safe is being thrown. Simply do this until the evil toon has no more safes by their crane. Also, it is not possible for one toon to kill all the goons. In case no one else noticed, goons come out of both sides of the cfo so any mean toons can only squish half the goons. However, if there are two toons trying to kill a group, you are in a lot of trouble.
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Old 06-15-2005, 11:38 PM
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another angle

[quote=Professor Bubble]

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I'm interested to find out how you manage to attibute the entire team's loss to the action of one craner.

I am a RB 50, HW50 and 117 laffer. You make some very good points about the CFO battle, but if the group takes too long, the red goons begin to come out. Once that happens it can be very difficult for even advanced toons to overcome if the area gets infected with too many goons.

Some things to keep in mind are....

1.the stompers are never given enough credit for the victories

2.advanced teamwork is necessary when all red goods are prevelent.

( it is only the best teams that will abandon 2 or 3 cranes for the purpose of consentrating all firepower in the manner of extra stompers to protect 1 corner of the room so that those craneman/men can do his/their job without taking hits.You don't need 4 cranes going if they can't stay on them).

3.some toons due to lag or other computer problems really have a hard time taking off the cfo's helmet.

It's been my experience for these toons ( I did the CFO a few times on a wireless connection with a generic video card ) that they can take it off if they release the safe earlier than they normally would.

These things being said, one toon can bring the whole group down depending on the skillset of the toons in the group. I personally wouldn't die since I can defeat him alone. I have done it before with only 2 toons going into the CFO from the start of the cog battle, and alone after everybody else was gone several times. A toon constantly placing helmets on the CFO can cause many troubles for a group only because the majority of the damage to the cfo needs to been done early. Once the red goons begin coming out if your still in the green or orange your group is in trouble. In good groups the red goons don't get a chance to come out.


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Old 06-15-2005, 11:43 PM
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I am a RB 50, HW50 and 117 laffer. You make some very good points about the CFO battle, but if the group takes too long, the red goons begin to come out. Once that happens it can be very difficult for even advanced toons to overcome if the area gets infected with too many goons.

Some things to keep in mind are....

1.the stompers are never given enough credit for the victories

2.advanced teamwork is necessary when all red goods are prevelent. ( it is only the best teams that will abandon 2 or 3 cranes for the purpose of consentrating all firepower in the manner of extra stompers to protect 1 corner of the room so that those craneman/men can do his/their job without taking hits.You don't need 4 cranes going if they can't stay on them).

Also some toons due to lag or other computer problems really have a hard time taking off the cfo's helmet. It's been my experience for these toons ( I did the CFO a few times on a wireless connection with a generic video card ) that they can take it off if they release the safe earlier than they normally would.

These things being said, one toon can bring the whole group down depending on the skillset of the toons in the group. I personally wouldn't die since I can defeat him alone. I have done it before with only 2 toons going into the CFO from the start of the cog battle, and alone after everybody else was gone several times. A toon constantly placing helmets on the CFO can cause many troubles for a group only because the majority of the damage to the cfo needs to been done early. Once the red goons begin coming out if your still in the green or orange your group is in trouble. In good groups the red goons don't get a chance to come out.


Prince Ricky
Wow..worthy of printing out and using as reference...same goes to Professor Bubble...Thank you both for taking the time to post with some very informative hints...I'm purly a stomper..and a pretty decent one, I think. I might have the guts to try the crane again with some of this advice.
 

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