CFO Glitches NEED TO BE FIXED!!

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

The point was you accused me of assuming she only fell once but made excuses why you could make assumptions of your own. It was another case of the pot calling the kettle black and I called you on it. Your point is moot.

Clearly you have more time and inclination to devote to this than I:

But you missed the point: The point was that we both made assumptions and I provided you with the reasons why mine were defendable and acknowledged what they were. All you did was say how evil it was to make assumptions, despite your having done precisely that, and then claim that it was knowledge after the facts were provided. The fact that your assumption of it being only once proved to be the case does not bear on the fact that you assumed it to be the case. Pot calling the kettle black, indeed.

I suspected that the difference between supposing and assuming would be too subtle for you to grasp. (The fact that you had to go look it up and then provide an oversimplified definition is rather sad...but somehow I envision you patting yourself on the back despite what it (the action) said about you. )

Oh well, "Some are wise and some otherwise"

[Colt]

Originally Posted by Lady Gwen

Hmmm. Well I did a run with Bubbles and she is in a better mood. She even let me do the cheat while holding a baby in my lap and feeding her breakfast (Apples and Oatmeal). BTW-I can even do the VP and CFO holding two kids on lap while on phone and balancing a spoon on my nose, not to mention writing this post.

Is that all? I can do that with two dogs sleeping under my computer desk with bad gas! (just to clarify, it's the dogs with the bad gas).

I'm in the no worries category. If someone is slower than me and I need to wait around for a bit, No Problem! I view that as an opportunity for a beverage break! If I'm slower that someone and they decide to NOT wait for me, whatever, their loss. They're probably toons I wouldn't want to run with regardless.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

Now, anyone else see in that quote where it is more likely that she meant she fell more than once?

I didn't have to assume, nor inject likelihoods into anything. Just reading that to ME said CLEARLY that she fell ONCE. She didn't have to say it in so many words...

The fact remains that she did not state how many times she fell. No numbers. You assumed. (Nice touch, that "She didn't have to say it in so many words" remark.)

In order for me to have been 'untruthful' I would have had to have been saying something that I KNOW to be untrue and attempting to suggest it was true. Neither of those is the case here now is it?

Actually that is exactly the case. You said that she had said that she fell only once. She did not state a number and your statement of "She didn't have to say it in so many words" clearly shows that you understood that she did not mention the exact number of times. There you go: Dishonesty.

Oh I simply LOVE this attempt at logic. Supposition is just another term for assumption right? So assumptions cannot be wrong? I assume you are an idiot then. LOL (Just teasing a bit):P

No, it's not: Let me elaborate and see if you can spot the subtle, but significant, difference:

1) Suppose he is an idiot.
2) Assume he is an idiot.

Number one is a What if? and number two is a Let's proceed under the assumption that this is the fact.

Get it?

You DID pass judgment on someone and reach for that bag of nails without having any FACTS. All you had was your (never wrong) supposition. Which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Here you actually make a valid point. However mine was more a case of Let him who is without sin.... (And let's not forget who deemed the child on their lap relevant (read: worth mentioning) in the first place)

[Braden212]

Oooh yeah I know how to do them and when I do I dont leave people behind!!! That's just stupid!!! If I do them I ALWAYS wait I mean really folks just think, if you go ahead, all of the other ppl wont get credit!!!

By the way, it's not just the kids my mom does it all of the time.

Master Fireball Peppergadget
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Thank you for your time

[Crinkedoodle]

This isnt too much about the glitch theory but i have been having problems myself....People in the bullion were doin glitches and they finally were at the supervisor room with me....I went and i attacked them.The selfish people didnt bother to help me.I used lil old man to help lure the cogs in and they didnt care.I injured one cog they rushed in and i was in desperate need of a toon up in past failure attempts to lure. Being the evil people they were they used the Aoogah gag and took away the lure affect from little ol man just to kill me.I agree with you man.The conduct of some toons are just unspeakable in some of these situations.You know who yall are and straighten up!

Crinkledoodle

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

Clearly you have more time and inclination to devote to this than I:

But you missed the point: The point was that we both made assumptions and I provided you with the reasons why mine were defendable and acknowledged what they were. All you did was say how evil it was to make assumptions, despite your having done precisely that, and then claim that it was knowledge after the facts were provided. The fact that your assumption of it being only once proved to be the case does not bear on the fact that you assumed it to be the case. Pot calling the kettle black, indeed.

Perhaps I'm not using enough little words for you to understand the point. I'll try one last time.

When I read the OP I took her statement to mean that she fell one time from the end of the platform. I didn't assume anything, I took meaning from the words and the context to which they were used. It isn't an assumption to read a paragraph and take meaning from how words are used.

Had she have actually fallen more than once, one would have expected her to say that in her post since it would have been highly relevant correct? She would have said something like "I was having problems with falling" which would have still been vague, but would point to the intended meaning.

You can continue to belabor the point that you feel I made assumptions and use that as an excuse to continue to say that I have made 'lies' in this thread, but the simple fact is that to do so would indicate you are not capable of understanding simple english. I (correctly) read the op and expressed what was meant from it. Some people just can't accept defeat.

I suspected that the difference between supposing and assuming would be too subtle for you to grasp. (The fact that you had to go look it up and then provide an oversimplified definition is rather sad...but somehow I envision you patting yourself on the back despite what it (the action) said about you. )

Oh well, "Some are wise and some otherwise"

Ahh, that you cannot understand subtle ironic humor tells me much about your intelligence.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

The fact remains that she did not state how many times she fell. No numbers. You assumed. (Nice touch, that "She didn't have to say it in so many words" remark.)

When read as a whole statement, it is clear to anyone with simple reading skills that falling once is the ONLY thing that would fit within that context without her trying to lie/cover up falling more than once. Try using simple logic after reading the OP again and tell me how it is possible for you to STILL keep on suggesting it takes assumptions to see what was meant.

Actually that is exactly the case. You said that she had said that she fell only once. She did not state a number and your statement of "She didn't have to say it in so many words" clearly shows that you understood that she did not mention the exact number of times. There you go: Dishonesty.

You clearly do not give much thought before posting. In order for me to have been 'dishonest', I would have had to have known that she meant more than once but suggested otherwise. I correctly read her post and therefor CANNOT be seen as being dishonest in how I restated it.

There are lots of examples of vague language in which the context gives enough clues as to make the meaning clear. There simply is NO way in which her exact words could have meant 'more than once' without meaning to do so in order to conceal the true meaning. If we are to take her at her word, falling only once is the ONLY meaning one can take. (if they understand english that is)

No, it's not: Let me elaborate and see if you can spot the subtle, but significant, difference:

1) Suppose he is an idiot.
2) Assume he is an idiot.

Number one is a What if? and number two is a Let's proceed under the assumption that this is the fact.

Get it?

Here is another of your gems. First off, you will note that I was poking fun at you and CLEARLY posted my comment as ironic humor. That you didn't get the joke says a lot really.

Second, you change the wording to support your facts and I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that. Do you agree that there is a difference between the words 'suppose' and 'supposition'? It was that you said there was a difference between supposition and assumption that was my response.

You see, a supposition says you have already answered the 'what if' and therefor made your assumption. My comment was not only correct in terms of understanding the exact words YOU used, but my joke is even more funny now!

I just can't wait for the next english lession from you.

Here you actually make a valid point. However mine was more a case of Let him who is without sin.... (And let's not forget who deemed the child on their lap relevant (read: worth mentioning) in the first place)

She said she wasn't sure if having the child on her lap was at cause for her fall or simple shock. Those of us who read and made an attempt to understand what the OP wrote clearly didn't find the extreme message you did.

[kalan]

We all have strong opinions, which assumes we will disagree at times. I value the diversity and disagreement, when there remains a non-hostile enviroment.
Like it or not if we listen openly we will find we may be right and we may be wrong. If we treat our brothers with a sense of awe, we can resolve anything with respect.

Having said all that, you and BooBoo should take this word game into the back room, cause I don't understand it anymore and I'm sure others don't either.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by kalan

We all have strong opinions, which assumes we will disagree at times. I value the diversity and disagreement, when there remains a non-hostile enviroment.
Like it or not if we listen openly we will find we may be right and we may be wrong. If we treat our brothers with a sense of awe, we can resolve anything with respect.

Having said all that, you and BooBoo should take this word game into the back room, cause I don't understand it anymore and I'm sure others don't either.

Kalan, you know me by now.
I just can't resist responding to words used toward/against me. Try as I might it is just too tempting to reply.

I'd bet it can't last much longer but I wonder what you would say if someone told you that you were telling lies and attacking a poster for having kids on their lap when they play. That is how it started but in my normal fasion it has degenerated to a volley of posts meant to refute or clairify.

I'll take what you said into account when boo boo responds. Have Fun!

[kalan]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

Kalan, you know me by now.
I just can't resist responding to words used toward/against me. Try as I might it is just too tempting to reply.

Yes I do understand, and I have tryed to point out, one of you needs to step back, before the non-hostile enviroment dissappears, completely.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

When I read the OP I took her statement to mean

The issue is not how you "took" anything: It's an issue of whether or not she stated, not implied; but stated that she'd fallen only once. She did not. I have no doubt that you'll continue your petty obfuscation attempts.

Ahh, that you cannot understand subtle ironic humor tells me much about your intelligence.

Why does this lame tactic not surprise me: "No really, I was only pretending to be ignorant. C'mon guys, it was a joke!"

When read as a whole statement, it is clear to anyone with simple reading skills that falling once is the ONLY thing that would fit

You just absolutely refuse to ever get it: The issue is whether or not she stated that it happened once. It's not how you interpreted her "not (in) so many words". She (either purposely or not) did not mention an exact number. Some people look at what isn't said and wonder why it isn't, rather than simple-mindedly taking things at face value, which you chose to do.

I just can't wait for the next english lession from you

Then there's this juvenile bait that just absolutely proves that (you) were kidding when you inadvertently jammed your foot down your throat. Nice try. No, really: It was!

Look, you got called being dumb & dishonest: S*ck it up & learn from it.

N.B. That brings to mind another if your dictional inadequacies: I did not say that you lied; I stated that you were practicing dishonesty.

I wonder of your misrepresenting/misquoting what I said is truly ignorance or more dishonesty. Either way: You're out of your league, sweetie.

[TooniestMommie]

Too much back & forth debating (arguing) going on. Getting off topic of original thread.

[NurseHypno]

Just to insert a point here, that is one of the rooms I have the worst trouble with. I will fall over and over again, ususally from all different points. Sometimes is because I am nervous. Sometimes because some sort of lag or jump problem over- or under-shoots the target.

It doesn't matter if it is high laff toons or lower laff toons, I feel bad that they do have to wait on me, so sometimes it is because I am trying to hurry. Most of the time, the others wait, including me in other rooms, for all to finish, if not in that room, in the door of the next one.

However, I have been a receipient of this same behavior in both the mint as well as in the factory. One instance is the glitch in the wall right inside the door of the warehouse. I had started with a group of four and one of our number had been killed off (lower levels of 40's) before we reached the warehouse. The other lower 40 level and I went normally into the warehouse to fight and do the switch (I didn't even know about the glitch then).

The other higher level toon took the glitch and went directly to the top of the silos, including the foreman. He did not say a word ahead of time or even hurry or anything else. Then while doing battle, the other toon with me was hit in one round several times in a row which killed him off leaving just me. I was able to finish off the cogs and then the goons so that I could get to the door. But before I got all the way to the door, I got the foreman message--even tho I had been sending "wait" every chance I had in regular chat, so I know the feeling of panic the "so and so is fighting the foreman" message induces, especially when you are nowhere near. He then completed the foreman and then had the nerve to send the "ha ha" message back just before doing last cog in center silo. So it was full of intent and malice and was planned and deliberate.

Even if he got to and engaged the first group before we got there, he could have waited for the second group and the center silo until we arrived. And, yes, I did report him, including the glitch. This has happened several times to me, minus the "ha ha" part, and I am relatively fast in normal rooms so it was not even a matter of speed, but deliberately bypassing the warehouse leaving the other toon or toons and I behind and taking all the merits that we all needed.

Yes, I have since been shown the glitch by another group of very nice toons who cleared the warehouse of cogs and goons first as is the usual. They then said follow me to myself and one other toon and took us to that corner and showed us the glitch. I myself have used it since but never to leave anyone behind. I have also had groups of extremely high toons wait for me, forever it seemed even to me, in that puzzle room in the mint while I repeatedly, not deliberately, fell or missed jumps.


I have accidently thought everyone was together and started to engage the next group (read committed), and even tried to protect self but not kill off cogs (potential merits) by using a lure to try to hold them that way, meanwhile tho sending out messages of "hurry" and "I'm in the ______ room" (factory). Even with that lure to place into a holding pattern, and the messages, I have had to proceed to keep from being severly damaged myself when waiting thru full lure time has not produced the lagging player. But then I do try to continue to make contact and wait before proceeding to any other group.

Note, however, I have had those of the "lagging" group just stand and watch behind, never saying anything or coming into the battle until the very last cog in group. I have also had others in that grouping go here, there, or yon and just play around deliberately, too (again in factory). Some tied up, or sometimes even those playing around will say "don't wait on me" and then I do proceed. I have also had others come into factory with a group and then pull out their black circle and leave you there, if they didn't try to leave you on the elevator in the factory, the CEO, the mint, and even, yes, the CFO. I cannot even begin to count the number of times I have been trapped somewhere by myself or with one other toon, lost all gags and laff points, and in the case of the CEO, even parts of my cog suit, because of this deliberate on and off behavior deliberately trying to trap someone. (And, no, I am not counting the times that others have gotten off or not gotten on at all and we have only 5 or 6 toons to go to the CEO or CFO so that I have gotten off too, not with the intent to trap someone, but because there is not enough of us to win and we are running out of time for the elevator to leave.)

Babies, children, cats, etc., do not make the difference. I once did some battles with a kid doing his homework and tooning at the same time--and was evidently successful at both. Phones and someone at the door, the same.

What does make the difference is the jerk who deliberately sets someone else up, or deliberately steals the merits or buck or rewards by their behavior. Or those who have the capacity to toon up and have plenty of toonup left (I know--I would check their supply), and get everyone thru to last 2 or three battles, then quit tunning anyone up so that they will die before the end. That stinks, too, and I have had it happen to me and have seen it happen many times (too many) as well--even had a "ha-ha" said to me and another toon once as we died after repeatedly asking for a toon up and not receiving one when toon up was available.

So just as in life, there are very nice toons and some horrible toon jerks that seem to get pleasure out of being jerks. It is a shame that they have to take something as pleasant and fun as TT and make it or parts of it unpleasant for someone else.

(For the record, yes, TT is addicting!!)

[WizardHawk]

I think I said just about all I can on this topic anyway. The last few lame jabs from boo boo did nothing to shed any more light on what was a dead horse to begin with. Out of my league? Yep, I left that league back in high school.

I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that I was not dishonest in any way. As to dumb, well that shows a lack of class. I'll just leave it to the reader to decide.

[seajypsy]

I was cheated outta merits in the factory today by two toons who were 105's. I lured for this one nasty little pink cat so she could work her trap the entire run. We entered the center silo and i was in the wait que while the cogs and toons lined up. Did they wait for my toon to join? Nope, they fogged and HahHah'd. Why was I cheated? I wouldn't glitch past the goons in the warehouse. There was one 55 laffer with us who couldn't so I helped him stomp goons. When we met them at the top of the west silo they'd already started so I said.."that wasn't nice" One shrugged, the other said "I don't care". So, when I was stuck waiting to line up for the foreman battle they finished him off. Was I mad? Heck yeah! My point is, it's gonna happen to all of us at some point or another and there isn't much one can do about it. But, it's ok...the Karma police know who these people are