CFO Glitches NEED TO BE FIXED!!

[FlipNickelmouth]

I use the glitch every time through, I never leave anyone in the puzzle room!!

I try to show others the glitch as I pass, or if they cant do that I will try to show them the ice cream bucket glitch. If theywont or cant do them I will wait, and tell them what restocks aer in the buckets, with "lets use sound, or rats, lets use trap...."....

If I gt bored waiting I will go down again and run the course....

I have a friend that cant glitch, she can run the course almost as fast as I can go under the stairs!

Reguardless, it is wrong of anyone to leave anyone that is being a team player at the end of any run. However, even if the glitch is fixed, some people will continue to do it faster, and run off and leave the slow one. People are not always nice.

My personal decision is to give everyone the benifit of the doubt once.

What does it cost you, one mint run? After that just let karma take its course...

BTW I also do the glitch over the wall after the warehouse... but I have even used a TOW phrase to save a newbie that went the wrong direction and ended up goon beaten and toothless back in the boiler room heh... its just curtosy...


forgive spelling and grammer please, I am in a hurry...

[Skyjockey]

Perhaps it wasn't a dog maybe it was a cat BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED IF IT WAS A CAT,DUCK AND RABBIT.

[Oliver]

I can't do the puzzle room so I stay out of the mint. I would like to know what the cheat is. I've never been able to get through this puzzle.

[dragonballz4562]

Originally Posted by Oliver

I can't do the puzzle room so I stay out of the mint. I would like to know what the cheat is. I've never been able to get through this puzzle.

What puzzle room are you having trouble with buddy?

[seajypsy]

Originally Posted by Oliver

I can't do the puzzle room so I stay out of the mint. I would like to know what the cheat is. I've never been able to get through this puzzle.

It isn't that hard once you've practiced it a few times. See if you can get a sf to go with you that can do it and just spend a while practicing. You don't need to finish the mint afterwards. Just keep doing it and eventually you'll get the hang of it. If you need help let me know and I'll meet you one day and you can practice all you like.

[Peking Duck]

I am an experienced player who has run through the mints more times than I'd like to count. At the time of the events in question I was running a bullion mint, trying to make a dent in the 8900 merits I needed (and still do...). I've had some awesome runs with great non-friend toons and friends who can attest that I don't normally have any trouble in the puzzle room. I never glitch, I always run it.

Honestly, it could have had nothing to do with my daughter sitting on my lap but could have been the shock at seeing "xxx is battling the supervisor" on my screen as I neared the platform. I could have simply panicked and fell. I couldn't believe that these toons, two of whom had a difficult time with other rooms towards the beginning of our run, would hurry through the last battle so quickly. (A quick run didn't seem to be a priority at the beginning of the bullion. We eventually got into a groove and were working better as a team.) The toons did not know I fallen when the supervisor fight was started. There is no way to accuse me of bad game play when it is obvious what their intention was.

It is ENTIRELY possible for toons to get to the supervisor before I did my second run. The two toons who glitched only had to run through stompers before the final room. The glitch puts them at the entrance of the hallway leading to that room. There was one other toon who ran the puzzle with me and was able to join the fight before it was over. He did not fall. They were obviously not waiting for me as anyone can join a fight accidentally and sit and let the clock run out.

I am the kind of toon that would run in front of another over and over to teach them how to run the puzzle room (and, yes, be able to complete it with my daughter on my lap) and wait for toons new to the mint learn how to do it. Any of you who have to glitch to run through the room because you can't do it, I'd be happy to take you and let you run it over and over until it becomes easier.

I have never cared whether toons glitched because for the most part they have always been considerate. I have never assumed that toons who glitch are selfish. These toons in particular went too far. They can play the game however they want, that's their right. My point is that there is a consequence to their actions.

As for the devil's advocate, your post made me smile. I like to live in Toontown la-la land where my friends are pink mice, yellow ducks and red horses in real life. I've always thought it was a good thing that we couldn't see what was going on in the real lives of anonymous toons that we play with. If we could, a sitting baby might be far less distracting than other things that might go on behind toons' computers.

I hope that answers some of the questions that have come up but it basically boils down to what it always does...some people are selfish and their actions mess things up for the rest of us. If the toons in question were kids, I hope they learn that it doesn't pay to be mean. I'd like them to figure that out now instead of having someone leave them behind in a similar manner and drive them to tears.

Just for the record...Moms ROCK! Hehe

See you around the Bullion Mint,
Princess Bubbles

[allicat]

Baby in your lap or not, some toons take longer to get through that room than others. I use the glitch but sadly, it's the only room I don't need a glitch in LOL. If a group goes into the mnt together then they should finish together and not run off because someone is having trouble. I say that's within reason..but it sounds like they didn't even give you a chance to try again..they just left.

It's not the glitch..those toons probably would have bypassed you through the obstacles and left anyway. The problem is poor sportsmanship on their part. If it wasn't poor sportsmanship then I would hope they would have at least said, "sorry, I couldn't wait any longer". Too bad that happened to you...hopefully your next run will go more smoothly.

[allicat]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

Just to play devil's advocate here: Clearly if they had time to run ahead and defeat the super then it was not only one time that you fell at the end of the puzzle. Equally clear is the negative effect of trying to do it with a baby on your lap: With all due respect (and I really don't mean this in a mean way) maybe you should not be doing this while holding a baby. Of course it's going to be more difficult while holding one. (I can do it 99/100 but imagine that would fall to ~20/100 (if even that many) if holding a baby.) I actually think what you did was rather inconsiderate. If you cannot devote enough attention/effort to the task at hand then perhaps that task should wait until such time as you can. It's a bit unreasonable to expect everybody else to wait because you're only giving 50%. You could argue that they didn't know about it (your limited attention availability); but you do.

I can do the glitch, grab gags, and run around the corner to see what's next before my friend gets to the piles of money (in many cases it is the supervisor around the corner). That's without my friend falling once. I could see if the original poster was falling all over the place or something but these other toons never stopped for more than gags...I don't want to lose the glitch but if the toons had run the puzzle then she would have had more time to catch up and at least get credit for her cogs. And, my guess is if she needs 8900 bucks she is no slouch at the game and has probably played with a baby on her lap before quite sucessfully.

[Professor Bubble]

I also think those glitches really need to be fixed. I had a bad experience in the Dollar Mint where a Toon exploited a glitch and bypassed all but the second-to-last group of Cogs, which she engaged and went sad, leaving myself and the two other remaining Toons to battle through the Mint alone.
I have no clue why those three other Toons abandoned you like that. Unless you guys use really bad tactics, four 100+ Toons ought to be easily able to handle the Bullion Mint. There was no reason for them to do that.
Hope the Toons on your next run are more considerate.
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[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

I am unaware of where it says in the players guide that you are not supposed to play TT unless you give the game your undivided attention. Perhaps you can point it out to me.

It doesn't have to be undivided. But it has to be appropriate to the situation at hand lest you be left behind. Clearly the appropriate attention was not being given in this situation. The guide also does not remind you to look both ways before crossing a street. These are basic principals not applicable solely to TT. Common sense is a given.

Plausible?

Yes, plausible. (The people that left her behind were pressed for time and had none to waste on somebody giving less effort than is required)

The OP said they fell ONCE,not over and over as your statement would require.

You can make the word "once" as big as you like but it does not change the fact that they did not say that it happened only once! I've seen people make it to the stomper and repeatedly fall trying to make it to the island before the stacks of bills.

Again, please point out where in the players manual it says we must all give our undivided attention to the game at all times because I still haven't found it yet.

It doesn't remind you to exercise common sense. We already covered this. (Note: Invalid and/or untruthful points gain neither validity nor truth through repetition)

She said she fell one time

She didn't say it happened only once. (See above note)

at the end of the puzzle because she had her baby in her lap and you find that rude and selfish? There is no right or wrong way to play TT and having a pet or kid on your lap is to be expected. Further, those who play and watch TV at the same time have that right. I PAY to play TT and I'll thank you for not telling me in what way I can enjoy it.

Oh boy! In your zeal, have you ever gotten it backwards: You can play any way you like, but if you're making minimal efforts and cannot keep up then expect those around you to play any way they like. One of those ways is to leave behind stragglers. You talk somewhere of reasonable expectations: Well where is your consideration for the reasonable expectations of the other players of you doing your best to keep up? I'll tell you where it is: You have no consideration for the other players! You figure, "Well g/d it I can't devote adequate attention to this and that's just tough for you! You're just going to have to wait for me because it's my considerations/needs/desires that must to be catered to!"

Just falling from a hard puzzle one time

Again, with the dishonesty. (See again the above note)

I'll be sure to watch out for your toons. I wouldn't want to accidentaly fall off a puzzle one time and get ditched because you belive I don't deserve to reach the end after that.

You do what you want. But you would find it absolutely impossible to find anybody who can truthfully give you one instance of me behaving badly and/or inconsiderately to other toons. But don't let that deter you: I have no need in my gaming experiences for zealots incapable of seeing the other side.

Wow, I'd say a look in the mirror is in order.

I'd suggest the same to you but I suspect by your unyielding ways that you don't keep many of those around.

**Edit**Remember that in that mirror what we're looking for is objectivity. Objectivity allows you to see a situation from the other side. I don't see where you've once even acknowledged that there might even be another side, much less see anything from it.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by Peking Duck

As for the devil's advocate, your post made me smile. I like to live in Toontown la-la land where my friends are pink mice, yellow ducks and red horses in real life. I've always thought it was a good thing that we couldn't see what was going on in the real lives of anonymous toons that we play with. If we could, a sitting baby might be far less distracting than other things that might go on behind toons' computers.

Bubbles: I hope you understand that my changing tone throughout this thread is not directed towards you, but a reflection of the tone directed towards me by others.

On the limited details you initially provided I offered a counter-point. It seems from this latest post that at least some of the hypothetical suppositions were not the case and at least one (but not necessarily more) of the toons was an utter jerk!

I empathize with you. I've had ****py things done to me and it really feels cruddy when they happen. I too do not like to see the person behind the toon. I enjoy it much more when assuming that everybody behind the toon is a kid. But when you see behavior like what happened to you it's clear that they are not. And from my experiences/observations here I've found that a lot of the bad behavior is actually perpetrated by adults. (I am not referring to you and/or your practice of letting a baby sit on your lap while playing. I'm talking about malicious behavior and there is certainly no malice in that )

Better luck next time. Rest assured that if you ever find yourself in a mint with my horse then you will have all the time you need, regardless of how many times you may fall.

[seajypsy]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

Bubbles: I hope you understand that my changing tone throughout this thread is not directed towards you, but a reflection of the tone directed towards me by others.

On the limited details you initially provided I offered a counter-point. It seems from this latest post that at least some of the hypothetical suppositions were not the case and at least one (but not necessarily more) of the toons was an utter jerk!

I empathize with you. I've had ****py things done to me and it really feels cruddy when they happen. I too do not like to see the person behind the toon. I enjoy it much more when assuming that everybody behind the toon is a kid. But when you see behavior like what happened to you it's clear that they are not. And from my experiences/observations here I've found that a lot of the bad behavior is actually perpetrated by adults. (I am not referring to you and/or your practice of letting a baby sit on your lap while playing. I'm talking about malicious behavior and there is certainly no malice in that )

Better luck next time. Rest assured that if you ever find yourself in a mint with my horse then you will have all the time you need, regardless of how many times you may fall.

I couldn't agree more

[Peking Duck]

If you ask any of my friends, I try to give all toons the benefit of the doubt, sometimes to a fault. This case seemed to be blatant toon-meanness to me. Bad behavior from a toon is something that can be reported. In my almost two years of playing this game I have never reported a toon or complained to Disney about how others play the game. Hopefully doing so in this case will save the rest of you from having this same problem. If I did not report it there would be no consequence to this meanness. I am almost positive that the instigating toon was not a kid but only I know how he played and can make that call. I did not report the other toons because I'm not as sure about their intentions as the first. It's been my experience that you can slow down an over-anxious toon by running out the clock and not picking gags. That could not have happened due to the time frame I was working with. Perhaps the other toons were thrown off-guard just as I was.

To clarify again I'd like to say that I didn't fall over and over. I fell jumping from the money pile to the last tower (doh, I know, to goof the easiest jump in the whole room).

I would also like to point out that some toons glitch much quicker than others. I'm the slowest glitcher around and choose not to practice and learn how to do it quicker. I can run and beat some glitchers through the puzzle room and not others. One of my best toon friends is as quick as they come and can be on the platform before I'm on the rotating gear. His comments when we run that room often begin, "When they fix this...." Even professional glitchers know that their cheats are temporary. If toons really want to keep the "good glitches" then care should be taken to not get other toons angry enough to report it. Believe me, it takes a lot to get me as upset as I was. For the first time ever I wished for the emotion "Princess Bubbles throws a punch."

I've enjoyed reading the dialogue that this generated, no matter what view is taken. Life would be very boring if you all thought like me. Toontown would not nearly be as interesting if it was full of yellow passive-aggressive cats.

Boo Boo, I'd be happy to run with you. But watch out, I'll beat you to that platform . I've taken no offense at any of the posts and hope that my responses are taken with the same consideration. No harm, no foul... there is nothing that needs explaining.

Meet you in the puzzle room!
Princess Bubbles
(now making progress in a 12-step anti-rage program, hehe)

[Doctor Lollipop]

I feel so sorry for you. I guess we will just have to repot all those mean glicthes!

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

It doesn't have to be undivided. But it has to be appropriate to the situation at hand lest you be left behind. Clearly the appropriate attention was not being given in this situation. The guide also does not remind you to look both ways before crossing a street. These are basic principals not applicable solely to TT. Common sense is a given.

No, the only thing 'clear' is that you made drastic assumptions about why she may have been left behind. You could have asked for clerification but instead jumped to the conclusion that SHE must have been playing badly with her baby on her lap and that is why she was left behind. No one else reading this thread made such assumptions from her initial post, just you. It is also common sense to expect that many play this game with other distractions around them.

Yes, plausible. (The people that left her behind were pressed for time and had none to waste on somebody giving less effort than is required)

Again, flawed and based soley on assumptions that you injected into this case. In fact, she said it was THEM that seemed to be having a hard time early on but that they had all seemed to have reached some rythm before that puzzle room. And once again, pressed for time or not if you go with strangers you have a moral obligation to make every effort to finish with that group. If you don't like those who have problems in the puzzles, get more friends!

You can make the word "once" as big as you like but it does not change the fact that they did not say that it happened only once! I've seen people make it to the stomper and repeatedly fall trying to make it to the island before the stacks of bills.

Ok, so because you have seen others struggle in that room it is acceptable for you to assume that she must have fallen more than once even though all she said is: "They did not wait for me as I was trying to do the puzzle room with a baby on my lap and fell at the end. They glitched, grabbed gags and never looked back."
What most of us saw in that statement is that these toons simply took the shortcut, grabbed gags, and went straight to the supervisor. It is clear as a bell from their actions that they had no intentions of waiting and in fact were trying their hardest to beat the supervisor before the last two toons could join. It is a CLEAR case of grieving.

She only said she fell and made no mention of it being multiple times. It is easier for someone to see how you would simply say she only did it once then for someone else to add things not said at all in a blatent attempt to turn the tide on this story and degrade their playing style. Shame on you.

It doesn't remind you to exercise common sense. We already covered this. (Note: Invalid and/or untruthful points gain neither validity nor truth through repetition)

Yep, your lack of truth is not getting any more valid is it?

She didn't say it happened only once. (See above note)

She didn't say nor infer that it happened more than once either.

Oh boy! In your zeal, have you ever gotten it backwards: You can play any way you like, but if you're making minimal efforts and cannot keep up then expect those around you to play any way they like. One of those ways is to leave behind stragglers. You talk somewhere of reasonable expectations: Well where is your consideration for the reasonable expectations of the other players of you doing your best to keep up? I'll tell you where it is: You have no consideration for the other players! You figure, "Well g/d it I can't devote adequate attention to this and that's just tough for you! You're just going to have to wait for me because it's my considerations/needs/desires that must to be catered to!"

My zeal? YOU came up here and attacked a poster suggesting that she got what she deserved because it is irresponsible for her to play with a child on her lap and made all kinds of wild assumptions about how this had to be at least partially her fault and I'm the zealot?

That last statement of yours is simply idiotic at best. I never made any such suggestion. YOU are the one that said she MUST have been keeping the others back from her inadequate attention to the game. I was the one saying she only fell once (which has since been proven so get off it) and that leaving a team mate behind is rude. You have been trying to make excuses for anyone who feels that a toon or toons are not going as fast as they like. In your world if I feel that someone is lagging behind and I just don't feel like dealing with it I am well within my right to simply ditch them and finish the mint without them. I say you have an expectation to put up with slower players if you go with strangers. If you cannot handle strangers then stop going with them! To USE strangers to get what you want and abuse them if they do not meet your standard is rude and abusive behavior. If that is the way you care to play good for you, but I'll not be one of your puppets.

Again, with the dishonesty. (See again the above note)

No, again you were wrong and cannot handle the truth. Nothing I've said has been proven to be untruthful, can you say the same? NOPE

You do what you want. But you would find it absolutely impossible to find anybody who can truthfully give you one instance of me behaving badly and/or inconsiderately to other toons. But don't let that deter you: I have no need in my gaming experiences for zealots incapable of seeing the other side.

That you excuse the actions of those who leave others behind means you have ideology that I do not agree with and therefor you are not someone I'd care to share game time with. I do not excuse those who abuse other players nor condone those who stand up for them. This is not failing to see the other side, this is a case of you failing to see the truth of what happened in this situation. You even go so far as to basically pull back and apologize to the OP and say that the other toon(s) were jerks but still hold to the same supporting view to me in the post just before it. It seems you are bent on holding your position based on false assumptions no matter how much truth has come out.

I'd suggest the same to you but I suspect by your unyielding ways that you don't keep many of those around.

**Edit**Remember that in that mirror what we're looking for is objectivity. Objectivity allows you to see a situation from the other side. I don't see where you've once even acknowledged that there might even be another side, much less see anything from it.

If she had said that she fell multiple times it would have been easy for the conversation to come around to that point of view. The simple FACT is that she never said, nor implied that she fell more than once and yet we are to take YOUR word that this must have been why those other toons acted as they did. I'm sorry but I prefer to listen only to those who were actually involved in the situation in the first place.

I know why you will not look in the mirror, given that ALL of your assumptions were proven false all you would see is egg all over your face.