CFO Glitches NEED TO BE FIXED!!

[kalan]

able to do that glitch, and at 50 that's alot mint. I don't mind others doing it, if they wait for others, no surprise I run quicker then some can glitch it. I think Disney is chossing which glitchs they want to fix and leaving others.

Numerous reports are made on glitches that we are unaware of, so even if your letter is counted, it alone will not change anything.

As testers we are asked to report these before they hit open, and some take that seriously and do, so again all the Don't report threads really just create more attention, if Disney is going to fix it they will.

And life happens, Babies come before puzzles.

Keep a list I do, I won't run with people that selfish, and they might wonder later in CFO, when me and my RB friends leave the room, yes it's you!!!

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by LadyVioletTwinkletoe

It is great that some people are able to make playing Toontown a priority, but many of us have real life issues which can interrupt us at any time.

That's fine. Nobody is faulting anybody for that. When those real life issues come up then be adult enough about it to **** it up (censored: Hint: what you do with a straw.) and move on. It's pretty unfair for player A to expect players B C & D to suffer because their inopportune "real life issues" arose. If the other 3 can and do wait then great! But if they can't/don't then it's not right to bash them here and name them to Disney in a complaining email. She has no idea why they didn't wait! Maybe they had "real life issues" arise too: Maybe they had a mom (or dad) standing there telling them "I told you 10 minutes ago....! You have one minute and then I'm turning it off!"

[WizardHawk]

Boo Boo, experience has shown that one complaint alone is not enough for Disney to take ANY action against another player. In fact, it seems to take reports from several different people on different occations for the first steps of action to be taken and then it would only be warning messages given. If not when you are clearly left behind and not let into the supervisor, then when on earth should someone report a bad toon? Sure there are always many different ways to look at the same situation and I'm sure Disney attempts to see the big picture when they get a complaint but you sure can't fault someone for standing up for themselves and reporting what they feel is bad play.

[Bnkzsahm]

Originally Posted by Peking Duck

I don't usually complain about glitches that toons use to get through rooms quickly but I am starting my own personal campaign to get the puzzle room stair glitch fixed. I just ran through the bullion mint using my other toon, Princess Bubbles (108, maxed gags), with three other 100+ toons. Two of these toons glitched through the stairs in the puzzle room. They did not wait for me as I was trying to do the puzzle room with a baby on my lap and fell at the end. They glitched, grabbed gags and never looked back. I had been patient and a good team player the whole run only to have these three other toons BEAT THE SUPERVISOR before I got there. I'm working on 8900 merits and am INCREDIBLY discouraged with selfish toons in the mint runs.

These three toons- a dog, a duck and a rabbit - know who you are. I will not run with you again in the mint or the CFO. I choose not to play with toons who are incapable of being team members. When the glitch is fixed you can thank yourselves. My email plea to Disney asking for the glitch to be fixed will include your toon names.

It should go without saying that if you CHEAT to get ahead of the rest of the group that you should wait for the rest of us to catch up. I can't believe that I actually had to say that!

Steamed in the Train Yard,
Princess Bubbles

But I do have to say that I am one of those people who literally HAVE to use that glitch...unless of course you have an hour or so to wait for me to get through that puzzle. That corner of the room is almost entirely black for me, I can't see a blessed thing, let alone know when or where to jump to!!

I do use this glitch, but have NEVER EVEN ONCE left anyone behind and will cheerfully stand there and root for the people who are trying to manuever over whatever is in that corner of the room. The only way I can go the way you're supposed to is if someone is with me who can tell me exactly when to jump, where to jump and which direction I'm supposed to be going. I can't see the edges, so fall off without explicit directions. After watching people who CAN do the puzzle, I know it takes timing and finding the right spots to jump from...but being unable to see them makes it virtually impossible for me.

I'm so sorry that you had people who left you behind, their rudeness is beyond description, but I personally hope that the glitch is not fixed for any poor souls who'd have to run with me would surely abandon me after 50 failed attempts.

Bnkzsahm

PS...Yes my moniter is as light as it can get, and no I can't afford a new vid card.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

I'm sure Disney attempts to see the big picture when they get a complaint but you sure can't fault someone for standing up for themselves and reporting what they feel is bad play.

Well let's look at it another way: Perhaps the other 3 felt that she was the one exercising bad play. Perhaps they felt she was intentionally falling off at the very end. There are many types of griefers and some are less obvious about it than others. A truly good one will leave you wondering if that (causing you grief) was really their intent.

But let's be honest here: The issue was not that they glitched, it's that they left her behind. I will sometimes glitch or I will sometimes not. It's really dependant on nothing more than whim. The time difference is virtually nonexistent. I'm assuming that's the case with most glitchers. So whether or not they glitched was probably not a factor in them leaving her behind. And if they perceived her as behaving badly and complained to Disney about her then assuming they got a reply at all, it would most assuredly read (in essence): You have the choice of not waiting. That's what they did.

Originally Posted by kalan

And life happens, Babies come before puzzles

Well in this case it seems it was a tie.

[Sir Ernie]

Originally Posted by seajypsy

It's a cheat. Justify the use of it anyway you like. It's still a cheat. I had a lot of trouble with that room in the early days of CFO. I have one computer that can do it and one that can't. I purposely played on the one that couldn't so I wouldn't be tempted. Thanks to my very patient friends that room is now as easy as any other. The glitch will be fixed at some point and with a little luck the toons who "glitched/cheated" their way through without waiting for others to catch up will now be the toons getting left behind. Poetic justice I think.

Cheat or no cheat, if someone can't do the room and has to "cheat" then they should. I have done this "cheat" alot of times and I'am happy I did. It saves time and you don't have to worry about the room. If it is fixed(although it won't matter to me), the people who depended on it to get passed the room, shouldn't suffer for it.

[Mr Hollywood]

Oh man. I understand how you feel but personally I always do the glitch and wait for others, I dont like running through the whole thing but Im also upset you posted this. I really enjoyed it because it was a short cut that allowed me to avoid jumping through the gears and boxes and sometimes* fall down then have to do it again. Oh well, just hope that if they jump all of it and you fall down they will wait for you, I bet they'd be mad if it were to be fixed then what would they think of doing? My advise make some friends and run with them, not everyone is mean.


Mr. Hollywood

[seajypsy]

Originally Posted by Sir Ernie

Cheat or no cheat, if someone can't do the room and has to "cheat" then they should. I have done this "cheat" alot of times and I'am happy I did. It saves time and you don't have to worry about the room. If it is fixed(although it won't matter to me), the people who depended on it to get passed the room, shouldn't suffer for it.

The people who depend on it to get through the room should practice for the day when the glitch is gone. If the glitch didn't exist then that's what they would've had to do to start with and we'd be posting tips on how to negotiate that room sans glitch. Glitches shouldn't be used as a way to cheat players who actually "play" the game the way it was meant to be played out of their merits. If the glitch is being used for that purpose then it needs to go. Having said that it seems as though the toons in question would've continued on anyway without waiting for the toon who missed the jump but, at least if the offending toons had also had to negotiate that room it might've bought the toon who missed the jump some time to catch up.

[LadyVioletTwinkletoe]

Originally Posted by seajypsy

Glitches shouldn't be used as a way to cheat players who actually "play" the game the way it was meant to be played out of their merits.

I can't agree with you more! The other 3 toons should have waited for her to catch up. If they engaged the cogs in battle by accident (not realizing she was not with them), then they should have lured the cogs and waited for her. To defeat the final group without waiting for her was simply a malicious act, rude and selfish.

[Boo Boo Bumbletoes]

Originally Posted by seajypsy

Glitches shouldn't be used as a way to cheat players who actually "play" the game the way it was meant to be played out of their merits.

The puzzle was meant to be a challenge. Challenges are not "meant" to be met with a baby on your lap. It seems that in this instance nobody was playing as intended, so who's to say who was right or wrong.

Originally Posted by LadyVioletTwinkletoe

To defeat the final group without waiting for her was simply a malicious act, rude and selfish.

That's your opinion. The fact that it is not mine and that I backed my position up with plausible possibilities proves that it is not as simple as that.

I still say it was rude and selfish to try to solve a puzzle that she clearly found challenging with a baby on her lap and expect everybody else to essentially eat it. But by far the worst part of it was to cry to everybody that would listen (and even those that won't) about the unfairness of it all, while she herself was being unfair.

I don't think you're being objective.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

But let's be honest here: The issue was not that they glitched, it's that they left her behind.

Exactly.

For an experienced player, using the glitch isn't all that much faster than doing the room the "proper" way. If you're good at jumping and looking ahead to see where the teeth of the gear will be by the time you reach them, you can pretty much run full speed all the way through. She fell. If the Toons who were with her (who I agree were inexcusably rude) had time to run and defeat the supervisor by glitching, they'd probably have had time to run and defeat the supervisor even if they'd run the room normally.

[seajypsy]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

The puzzle was meant to be a challenge. Challenges are not "meant" to be met with a baby on your lap. It seems that in this instance nobody was playing as intended, so who's to say who was right or wrong.



That's your opinion. The fact that it is not mine and that I backed my position up with plausible possibilities proves that it is not as simple as that.

I still say it was rude and selfish to try to solve a puzzle that she clearly found challenging with a baby on her lap and expect everybody else to essentially eat it. But by far the worst part of it was to cry to everybody that would listen (and even those that won't) about the unfairness of it all, while she herself was being unfair.

I don't think you're being objective.

I agree..the puzzle was meant to be a challenge. How challenging is it when you "cheat/glitch" your way through it? Like I said, I doubt these toons would've waited for her even if they hadn't cheated but at least it might've bought her enough time to catch up.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo Bumbletoes

The puzzle was meant to be a challenge. Challenges are not "meant" to be met with a baby on your lap. It seems that in this instance nobody was playing as intended, so who's to say who was right or wrong.

I am unaware of where it says in the players guide that you are not supposed to play TT unless you give the game your undivided attention. Perhaps you can point it out to me.

That's your opinion. The fact that it is not mine and that I backed my position up with plausible possibilities proves that it is not as simple as that.

Plausible? The OP said they fell ONCE,not over and over as your statement would require. You will not find many people here who would not see leaving anyone behind who fell once, twice, even three times and going on to beat the supervisor as being very rude and selfish. Sure anyone has a right to play anyway they wish and you are all free to be impatient as you like and leave anyone behind whenever you feel like it but we are all also free to see it as rude and abusive behavior.

I still say it was rude and selfish to try to solve a puzzle that she clearly found challenging with a baby on her lap and expect everybody else to essentially eat it. But by far the worst part of it was to cry to everybody that would listen (and even those that won't) about the unfairness of it all, while she herself was being unfair.

Again, please point out where in the players manual it says we must all give our undivided attention to the game at all times because I still haven't found it yet... She said she fell one time at the end of the puzzle because she had her baby in her lap and you find that rude and selfish? There is no right or wrong way to play TT and having a pet or kid on your lap is to be expected. Further, those who play and watch TV at the same time have that right. I PAY to play TT and I'll thank you for not telling me in what way I can enjoy it.

At least she isn't ignoring her kid while she is playing. There are many people out in TT who are very young, very old, otherwise preoccupied with things outside of the game or have other reasons why they play less than perfect at all times. Just falling from a hard puzzle one time should not give anyone the right to decide they are not worth waiting for and use it as an excuse to act badly. Anytime you do a run of ANY kind with strangers, there should be some expectation that the run may not go the way you planned it. Some may want another route, some may not have your skill at picking gags, others may not be able to do a certain puzzle or cannot make it into the lava room and by the fact that you didn't have enough friends on at that time so you had to settle for strangers puts you in a situation where you must expect some give and take. Sure I'm annoyed when a 60 something makes it into the bullion and wants to work his marbles, but that is sometimes the price you pay for not having friends on to help you. Deal with it.

I'll be sure to watch out for your toons. I wouldn't want to accidentaly fall off a puzzle one time and get ditched because you belive I don't deserve to reach the end after that.

I don't think you're being objective.

Wow, I'd say a look in the mirror is in order.

[Skyjockey]

Originally Posted by Peking Duck

I don't usually complain about glitches that toons use to get through rooms quickly but I am starting my own personal campaign to get the puzzle room stair glitch fixed. I just ran through the bullion mint using my other toon, Princess Bubbles (108, maxed gags), with three other 100+ toons. Two of these toons glitched through the stairs in the puzzle room. They did not wait for me as I was trying to do the puzzle room with a baby on my lap and fell at the end. They glitched, grabbed gags and never looked back. I had been patient and a good team player the whole run only to have these three other toons BEAT THE SUPERVISOR before I got there. I'm working on 8900 merits and am INCREDIBLY discouraged with selfish toons in the mint runs.

These three toons- a dog, a duck and a rabbit - know who you are. I will not run with you again in the mint or the CFO. I choose not to play with toons who are incapable of being team members. When the glitch is fixed you can thank yourselves. My email plea to Disney asking for the glitch to be fixed will include your toon names.

It should go without saying that if you CHEAT to get ahead of the rest of the group that you should wait for the rest of us to catch up. I can't believe that I actually had to say that!

Steamed in the Train Yard,
Princess Bubbles

Was it a coin mint?

[Lizbeth]

Ok, why are you critisizing someone for holding a baby while playing toontown? When my daughter found toontown, she was holding a baby. She was trying to get her to stop crying, so was playing to entertain her. The baby was 11 months old. Granted she was just starting out, and didn't have any big challenges, but it is the same basic thing.

As far as glitches go, I think they are fun, and they are a challenge for me sometimes. They make the game interesting. In the mints when I do a glitch others usually have to wait for me lol. What I do and It's a good practice is not challenge a cog until everyone is there. That way nobody gets left out.

It was very rude for others to go on without her. If they had any sence they would have at least waited at the next group of cogs for her to get there. Some toons did that to me once in the factory. I was stuck and the door to the switch on the east silo wouldn't opne fast enough. So the other 2 toons, instead of helping me just went on and finished.

Just one last thing. This game is for kids, and maybe the baby was watching her play. Being a baby he/she probably can't play for herself yet. But I'll bet when he/she can he/she will be one heck of a player.