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03-23-2005, 02:19 PM
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If you don't know what to do then don't do it!
Ugh most toons that are short changes keep hoging the crane and they don't even know what there doing!
I just did a CFO today and there was one good crane person and then there was me and we both did i best to keep the CFO geting hit but the goons. The toons were really bad and i mean REALLY BAD! and they kept runing looking for toon-ups and not even stomping the goons i saw one toon he had to stomp then crane stomp then crane cuz no one would help him and this just makes me really mad!  Now i was thinking to my self there are not alot of little toons that are short changes that get to do the cfo cuz most toons won't help them but i was thinking i wan't to have some fun so i'll take some short changes with me (2 wrods for you "BAD MISTAKE") So i think i'll just try and cool my self off for now but in the mean TIME........ I'm off to kill some NOOBS!!! <---lol just messin with ya! ~DuckyWucky~ |
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03-23-2005, 02:53 PM
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Y'know, I get really angry when I read something like this. I'm a Short Change and I have no idea of how the crane works. What did I do? I stomped on goons. What thanks do I get? Every one keeps on saying "You Stink!" to me because of my risking my toon and throwing it in the way of danger so that the Crane Operator can do his/her work right. I've loss once when my whole team died off because they crowded in together. I logged off, but I seriously hated doing so.
Honestly, before you make wide based assumptions that most Short Changes are low level toons, well, think again. I'm a 106 laffer with all gags maxxed. Well, what do you know? I'm not the only toon who gets into this predicament. Many high-laffers will not get let on and play because they didn't start early. Is it our fault that our life doesn't revolve around Toontown? Nope. Anyways, I undertand that you're angry and such, but watch what you say. You bite at a very sensitive topic for some toons. Namely me. I'm keeping a 85% average at my school (The most prestegious in Canada), keeping TWO websites alive and going, training myself for the Badminton season (NOT your old backyard tennis) and keeping my social life going. My life definately does not revolve around Toontown. But it does play large role.
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03-23-2005, 02:59 PM
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03-23-2005, 03:05 PM
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Yes, I know. I do appologise for that. I edited it shortly before your post. But as I said, I understand you fusteration. I guess there is alot in common. You dislike how some people hog the cranes. I dislike how some can't accept that throwing my toon in the goon's way is a helpful act. Well, we do have alot in common. Maybe I'll have to reserve my thoughts. I'm going in to do my second CFO ever. I wish you all the best on your next run.
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03-23-2005, 03:23 PM
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03-23-2005, 05:15 PM
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The most important job in the CFO battle is stomping BY FAR. I have done many random runs and still never gone sad on one (had to bail on 3 or 4 when last toon standing) and I don't care who goes with me. I'll take as many sc's as will jump on the elevator. Why have I been so lucky as to not experience all the lost runs so many here face? I start off stomping EVERY TIME I'm on a solo run. My goal is to treasure farm as many as possible and keep the two toons on whatever side of the door I'm on as safe as possible. I look up from time to time to get a feel for how each of the crane operators are doing. It is my exerience that even 4 total new players on crane will get it before the end of their very first run. It isn't rocket science that once he has a safe on his head you cannot damage him. Really, so what if they toss a few on while learning? We all did it and we all managed to win before we were really good at it didn't we?
I stomp and create as many treasures as I can and wait to see if the team can hold together when the CFO is red. If not, I'll jump on crane THEN and finish him off. What causes the end to so many random runs is the lack of available treasures for everyone when the reds come out. Everyone is too busy running around trying to heal themselves to have anyone take a crane and get a little support for that last shot. Work on dropping as many treasures as possible and you drastically reduce that problem! I'd MUCH rather have inexperienced players on crane. The newer stompers are more dangerous to a run because they often do not actually protect the cranes and they use as much or more treasures as they release. Work more at teaching the stompers what to do and worry about the cranes less since crane really is easy to pickup. You will find much more success.
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03-23-2005, 05:27 PM
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03-23-2005, 06:16 PM
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So how do you protect the Crane? I find that during my run yesterday, I managed to stun the Goon before it got to the Crane Operator, but they didn't quite notice my handiwork. Is that the way you protect them?
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03-23-2005, 06:36 PM
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03-23-2005, 07:35 PM
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There are two guides I have made about the CFO battle, one is in this forum and the other is in the CCG forum. Both have details on how to do each function. Just quickly though, you protect the crane operators by attempting to stop any and all goons before they reach the crane. At times you will have to step into the light of the goon to do it. You may not be able to stop every goon every time, but the more you get, the more the crane operators can just focus on fighting the CFO and not healing.
Lady Freckles, there are a few that seem to have problems with the safes or otherwise never get some part of the crane. I've found that most of this is due to lag or other computer issues, otherwise it is a matter of just trying more. If you have lag issues AT ALL, it can prevent a solid safe hit. Try my guide in the computer forum for cleaning up your setup and possibly switch to OpenGL mode to see if it helps. If you feel it isn't a computer issue, try letting go earlier then you think you should. Many misses on helmets are caused from letting go too late. And I'm not sure why, but with some its about how far BACK you are swingning before you go forward with the hit. If you get a 'squishy' sound, you are not creating enough forward momentum for the hit. That goes for goon throws as well. In any event, I've seen that at least a few can and do get it even on their first time. It only takes one to get a helmet off. The important thing is to keep them protected enough that one can take a helmet off and another can have a goon ready for that last hit. On those runs where it seems no one is getting it, then I do take a crane but that really hasn't happened very often. Just think back to anytime you've had a run go sour. Were there tons of treasures everywhere? NO. It's lack of toonup that causes most spoiled runs. It is lack of coverage and support that causes it to go bad, not the skill of the crane operators. If everyone would work harder at becoming a stomping master and worry less about crane, there would be a fraction of the losses currently seen on random runs. The better you are at treasure farming, the better your chance of winning are. It really is that simple folks! Even those runs where none of the crane operators work well together, just having tons of treasures means you cannot go sad right? No matter what they are doing, you are keeping things going by keeping everyone full on LP. It could take two hours for the run but no one goes sad because everyone has toon up. If that isn't the case, then why have I not gone sad on a random run on open? (I've had at least 20-30 tries)
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03-23-2005, 07:50 PM
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Four RBs and we still lost. I went into a CFO fight with four RBs (including myself) - the remainder of the toons were also fairly high.
The trouble started in the cog fight - one toon just seemed to be out-of-synch with the rest and caused a bit of confusion. We managed to get out of the cog fight fully-laffed. When the CFO fight started, I got on a crane and I noticed I didn't have a stomper. I had a stomper show up a few times, but I also had to hop off the crane and stomp for myself and crush goons with the safe. We got to the flashing-red/helmet phase and all stompers stayed on other side where the red goons were pouring out. There wasn't a crane-op on that side so I tried to hop a crane where the stompers were. Anyway, I got zapped repeatedly and did the wah-wah. I'm not complaining - I just want to let the SCs know that things go bad in "ideal" situations also. I have also accompanied a group of all SCs and didn't have any problems at all. |
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03-23-2005, 07:55 PM
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 I am glad to go with short changes..I am only a loan shark 10 not a mighty baron, but now that we dont lose parts if we die..why not go with short changes? and i think practice is what it takes...the crane is about practice and for some goon stomping is about practice..i really like that i dont need parts after the vp or cfo..just merits or buck..and if u lose..u can just go again..no worries..so hey short changes..i am glad to have u along for the ride...better than waiting to put together a team of friends which can take 30 to 40 minutes!
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03-23-2005, 08:23 PM
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i am ok with short changes but i only take about 2 at a time. we cant take a risk as having 7 toons that dont know how to work the crane
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03-23-2005, 08:32 PM
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i am an 86 never went in cfo but my moms toon is 105 gags maxed and she a sclv2. she knows how to work the crane and you dorks who dont allow sc are idoits. they are 100s too ya know. you should let toons go what idoit thought because they were good they could make little guys not go!!!!
   you were sc too!! lets work together 
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03-23-2005, 08:40 PM
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Do you all read before posting? You cannot afford to have 7 toons that do not know how to operated the crane? It takes about 5 mins to teach someone how. Disney gave us GREAT phrases for teaching. It just isn't as big of a deal as some of you would like to make it out to be. The last random run I did I had one SF with me, the rest of the toons were ALL PP's and SC's. If my memory is correct, 4 of them were SC's with a couple of them level 1's to boot. We won and all made it out. IT JUST ISN'T AS HARD AS SOME OF YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE!
Scratchy Dog, you sound like a few of my SF's. I know I'll get some bad feedback for this, but here is the truth: I wish I had a $1 for every time I've had a friend say something like: "We lost that last CFO battle. I started off on crane and no one would stomp for me, they just kept running around" OR "they just stood by waiting for someone to get hit so they could get on crane" If any of you have read what I put in here already, you know what I'm thinking to myself when I hear this. Anyone not know what I'll say next? lol If you wish to WIN on a random run, STOMP and do it well. If you wish to crane on a random run, don't get upset when you lose! It takes MUCH longer to master stomping and treasure farming then it does to at least get decent at crane. I have seen VERY few toons that cannot be taught crane IN ONE RUN, but have never seen a toon MASTER stomping without many, many runs under their belt.
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