I'm tired of hi level toons acting like know it alls

[Super Sam]

Originally Posted by Sandy

look at us everyone; hi laffers tired of low laffers, low laffers tired of hi laffers? what have we become? obviously an annoyance to eachother. do we really want to be like this? there is too much laffism in toontown. prejudice everywhere you look. can't we just work WITH eachother instead of AGAINST eachother?

THER IS TO MUCH LAFFISM THATS A GOOD WON

[Solid Squirrlee 2]

Did you ever take into consideration that some of these big toons have played for a year or longer and just might know what they are doing? They just might be trying to teach you something or tell you that it IS to risky for you. Some big toons just don't want a little toon along on a Mint run because they don't have the time to use throw and squirt in every battle or help you build gags.

[Red]

Originally Posted by aurora borealis

I never use the stinky phrases, all it does is hurt feelings. I also never hop in an elevator and hop out at the last second, I think that's just as mean. I will say 'you need more laff points', if they choose not to listen it's not my fault.

It's not your fault, but it hurts you. When you need to do 8 bullion mint runs to get your cogbucks, it's really not fun when some newbie with a squirt gun and a fruit pie makes a run which should take 15 minutes last for an excruciating hour. I don't want to deal with that. What kind of rude person barges in where he's clearly not welcome?

I want to stress that I have nothing against newbies. I help them frequently. I have a number of low-level friends who I take through buildings often. But not when I'm trying to get through my mint runs as fast as possible so I can get into the CFO. There are good newbies and there are bad newbies, and the newbies who try to muscle their way into an elevator when everyone is asking them nicely (and not-so-nicely) to get out of the way are bad newbies.

Originally Posted by Naganu

For some people it is more than fun, it is competition. It is the desire to win and not go sad.

Going sad isn't the issue. Doing one mint run in the same amount of time I could be doing four is.

Originally Posted by rkhooda

Don’t play into their hands; by playing the shuffle or using stinky phrases on other toons. ... I think when an adult writes on the message boards, that they don’t have a choice but to be mean, I think what a loser (you can make valid excuses all day long, it dosent change anything). Coming up with solutions to problems is the job of an adult; otherwise you’re not truly an adult, but a big-hairy-baby.

Oh really. Well, go ahead, genius, tell us the solution. Read the scenario I posted a few pages back, and you tell me what Toons A, B, C, and D should have done when faced with a bunch of newbies who wouldn't take the hint and take a hike. Share your wisdom with this "loser". Your objective is to get through the mint as fast as possible, you've got a cluster of baby toons who will at the very best slow you down tremendously and at the very worst cost you your Laffs, your gags, and/or your hard-earned SOS cards or Unite phrases. What's the solution? I'd love to hear a non-loser like yourself come up with an explanation for this big-hairy-baby.

[The Prankster]

Originally Posted by Red

It's not your fault, but it hurts you. When you need to do 8 bullion mint runs to get your cogbucks, it's really not fun when some newbie with a squirt gun and a fruit pie makes a run which should take 15 minutes last for an excruciating hour. I don't want to deal with that. What kind of rude person barges in where he's clearly not welcome?

I want to stress that I have nothing against newbies. I help them frequently. I have a number of low-level friends who I take through buildings often. But not when I'm trying to get through my mint runs as fast as possible so I can get into the CFO. There are good newbies and there are bad newbies, and the newbies who try to muscle their way into an elevator when everyone is asking them nicely (and not-so-nicely) to get out of the way are bad newbies.

Going sad isn't the issue. Doing one mint run in the same amount of time I could be doing four is.

Oh really. Well, go ahead, genius, tell us the solution. Read the scenario I posted a few pages back, and you tell me what Toons A, B, C, and D should have done when faced with a bunch of newbies who wouldn't take the hint and take a hike. Share your wisdom with this "loser". Your objective is to get through the mint as fast as possible, you've got a cluster of baby toons who will at the very best slow you down tremendously and at the very worst cost you your Laffs, your gags, and/or your hard-earned SOS cards or Unite phrases. What's the solution? I'd love to hear a non-loser like yourself come up with an explanation for this big-hairy-baby.

Make up their own group of friends and go to a like DESSERTED district, then go in. It's not THAT hard. Oh my! You may have to go to a district with less than 100 people in it! WHO CARES?! I'd rather take a non-crowded district over a hugely-populated one ANY DAY. GET OUT OF THE BIG DISTRICTS. Noobs go there to find people to help them. The only people you'll find in smaller districts are people (like me) that lag with 400+ Toons in the district.

[Red]

Originally Posted by The Prankster

Make up their own group of friends and go to a like DESSERTED district, then go in.

And if I'm not friends with the people I'm trying to go in the elevator with? I should have to boot someone off my full friends list because some newbie is being a jerk? And if we go to the desserted [sic] district and find another newbie there, should we move again? How much of my time must be lost to these rude newbies?

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by Red

It's not your fault, but it hurts you. When you need to do 8 bullion mint runs to get your cogbucks, it's really not fun when some newbie with a squirt gun and a fruit pie makes a run which should take 15 minutes last for an excruciating hour. I don't want to deal with that. What kind of rude person barges in where he's clearly not welcome?

Oh really. Well, go ahead, genius, tell us the solution. Read the scenario I posted a few pages back, and you tell me what Toons A, B, C, and D should have done when faced with a bunch of newbies who wouldn't take the hint and take a hike. Share your wisdom with this "loser". Your objective is to get through the mint as fast as possible, you've got a cluster of baby toons who will at the very best slow you down tremendously and at the very worst cost you your Laffs, your gags, and/or your hard-earned SOS cards or Unite phrases. What's the solution? I'd love to hear a non-loser like yourself come up with an explanation for this big-hairy-baby.

Actually it doesn't hurt me ! How can them not listening hurt me, unless I let it. As for a solution, try whispering to those going with you 'follow me', then run all at the same time. Usually you catch the other toons not informed off guard, and your group is good to go. Sometimes it may take a couple of tries, but not anything like your scenario.

And if we go to the desserted [sic] district and find another newbie there, should we move again? How much of my time must be lost to these rude newbies?

Hasn't anyone ever told you it's rude to make fun of someone? I'm sure you've misspelled things in your life.

[Red]

Originally Posted by aurora borealis

Actually it doesn't hurt me ! How can them not listening hurt me, unless I let it.

It hurts you by costing you time. Either time trying to get in the elevator without them, or time doing a run with a toon that's dead weight at best, actively harmful at worst.

As for a solution, try whispering to those going with you 'follow me', then run all at the same time. Usually you catch the other toons not informed off guard, and your group is good to go.

"Usually?" Hardly. I've tried it. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't. Your typical low-level newbie will hang out right by the door and will hop in as soon as he sees another toon moving towards the elevator.

Hasn't anyone ever told you it's rude to make fun of someone? I'm sure you've misspelled things in your life.

You're right, and I apologize to The Prankster. I'm just getting exasperated. People are calling me a big mean toon for not being willing to spend hours and hours shepherding little baby toons through a place they really don't belong.

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by Red

It hurts you by costing you time. Either time trying to get in the elevator without them, or time doing a run with a toon that's dead weight at best, actively harmful at worst.

"Usually?" Hardly. I've tried it. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't. Your typical low-level newbie will hang out right by the door and will hop in as soon as he sees another toon moving towards the elevator.

You're right, and I apologize to The Prankster. I'm just getting exasperated. People are calling me a big mean toon for not being willing to spend hours and hours shepherding little baby toons through a place they really don't belong.

I never said you're mean, and I'm sorry if you feel it was implied. Just because I don't like using the stinky phrases doesn't mean that you shouldn't, that's totally up to you.

As far as the solution I mentioned, it usually works for me. But then again the only time I'm 'plagued' with low toons is in the pg's. There seems to be a couple around in cash hq at any given time, but it's easy to outrun one toon compared to 5 or more.

As for them 'hurting' me, again, unless I let those low laff toons and their actions bother me, it doesn't hurt me.

[rkhooda]

Originally Posted by Red

...Oh really. Well, go ahead, genius, tell us the solution. Read the scenario I posted a few pages back, and you tell me what Toons A, B, C, and D should have done when faced with a bunch of newbies who wouldn't take the hint and take a hike. Share your wisdom with this "loser". Your objective is to get through the mint as fast as possible, you've got a cluster of baby toons who will at the very best slow you down tremendously and at the very worst cost you your Laffs, your gags, and/or your hard-earned SOS cards or Unite phrases. What's the solution? I'd love to hear a non-loser like yourself come up with an explanation for this big-hairy-baby.

Ha-ha, I always tell my girlfriend that I am a genius, and now I can show your quote here to her as proof that I am indeed a genius. Wild-e-coyote genius.

Well actually if there was a part of this planet that geniuses live in, I would be on the exact opposite side of that spot.

First off, my advice would be to take a deep breath.

Now, that we have calmed down, please understand I am not against you. You pay your fees, and you have a right to play this game anyway you want. Shuffle, don’t shuffle, use stinky phrases or don’t, ditch toons or stick it out. In the greater scheme of things, it really won’t make a bit of difference. New toons come and old toons go. The game continues, and people have to learn things for themselves each time. Something that is clear as day to you, is as murky as a rainstorm at midnight to the next.

That being said, please understand that this is a kids game, and you may hurt some feelings because you are in a hurry. As adults we often hurt kids, because we are in a hurry. As an old wise man said, its not the destination, its the journey. Or, as a Brithish general once said, to a gentleman it isnt important wether your win or lose, but how you conduct yourself in battle that matters.

There are too many scenarios that apply, so I won’t go through scenario by scenario. The important point is to have fun, so if your objective is to go through the mint as fast as possible so you can go to cfo, then play your baby toon that doesn’t need 8500 merit. If you want to play your toon so you can get to RB 50, then the best solution would be for you to play with some friends that you meet. I mean we do have 50 spaces on friend list. So if you have some inactive friends, delete and make some new active friends that have the same objective as you. There are many toons that play at the same time as you every night, or day, so during regular play keep your eyes open for toons that feel the same as you. Then make friends and have fun.

I am sorry for using names here (you are not a loser), although you may very well be a big-hairy-baby. I meant it in a more general way. You are right. I know the elevator can get very nerve wracking. There have been days that I simply could not go to cfo (Im one of those idiots that once on the elevator will not get off, even if it means an alt-f4). I had to play a baby toon, or fish a bit. But being upset with things and taking out on some toon that may have no idea how you feel about things (Did you know a percentage of toons playing cant read? After all they are 6 years old) is just not right.

In your particular scenario, I'd say, that you played right in to the griefers hand and made his/her day. What you should have done? Well the only person that can answer a question like that is you. What do you think you could have done differently?

Good luck in game and have fun.

Ray

[PPP]

It really stinks to have to keep tooning low laffers up every single time they get hit.

It's pretty dumb for anyone under 90 laff to go in any of the mints. You need decent gags and there aren't any cogs under lvl 10 in there.

I'm just really sick of people that purposely make the game miserable, low OR high laff. Grrr.


I have to click this cuz he's cute. :42:

This one too

I think that's it.

[sonicdude]

I never expected this many posts. :42:

[Red]

Originally Posted by aurora borealis

As for them 'hurting' me, again, unless I let those low laff toons and their actions bother me, it doesn't hurt me.

I'm not using "hurt" in the sense of "hurt feelings." I'm using "hurt" meaning "do direct harm to." If I'm stuck somewhere for an hour when I could be out in 15 minutes because of some thoughtless schmoe's actions, I've been harmed.

Originally Posted by rkhooda

In your particular scenario, I'd say, that you played right in to the griefers hand and made his/her day.

You misunderstand. Most of the newbies I have a problem with aren't griefers, they're just dumb and/or rude. I don't want to go in the Mint with them, I tell them I don't want to go in the Mint with them, and they insist on rushing the elevator anyway. They're not griefing, they just don't care that they're not wanted. They seem to think that it's their right to have a high-level escort in the Mint. Well, it's not.

What to do about it? I think the scenario I outlined (which was fictitious but based on something we've all put up with) was pretty much the best way: Politely but firmly tell them to go away. Then tell them the same thing a little less politely. Then either try to change districts or strand them in the elevator. Either way, you've wasted a bunch of time thanks to the newb. Then go to ToontownCentral.com and take out your frustration on a newbie toon who started a thread to complain about how high-level toons are mean to him.

[dchau888]

This game is all about team work. You need to work with your own peer to build up your laff point and gags. You do not do home work and study with a 12 grader when you are in middle school. This is just logic.

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by Red

I'm not using "hurt" in the sense of "hurt feelings." I'm using "hurt" meaning "do direct harm to." If I'm stuck somewhere for an hour when I could be out in 15 minutes because of some thoughtless schmoe's actions, I've been harmed.

What to do about it? I think the scenario I outlined (which was fictitious but based on something we've all put up with) was pretty much the best way: Politely but firmly tell them to go away. Then tell them the same thing a little less politely. Then either try to change districts or strand them in the elevator. Either way, you've wasted a bunch of time thanks to the newb. Then go to ToontownCentral.com and take out your frustration on a newbie toon who started a thread to complain about how high-level toons are mean to him.

I wasn't meaning hurt feelings either, so it takes more time to get on with my group, big deal. I don't care how long it takes me to get my bucks, it's not like when I'm done, and fight the cfo, I'll get to do something different! Therefore, the low toons will only 'hurt' me if I let them.

There will always be low toons where they 'shouldn't' be, the best thing to do is try to avoid them. I don't think they do it to harm anyone, they want to play just like everyone else (there are some griefers, I know). Don't go to the busiest districts, they like to congregate there. I've gone in a less busy district and found other toons waiting for people to join them, you just have to look! That takes alot less time than it would to deal with the newbs as you have outlined.

[Dippy Orville Funnyfoot]

It's pretty dumb for anyone under 90 laff to go in any of the mints. You need decent gags and there aren't any cogs under lvl 10 in there.

What on earth gave you that crazy idea?

Let me share a little experience with all the high laffers out there.
Yeasteday i was in DDL in between runs, and just because I'm a nice guy i made a couple of friends who were low laffers (33 and 63). They wanted to go to CHQ. i was a little hesitant at first but went along with it. I took them to the coin mint, just us three. needness to say, about a third of the way the 33 laffer went sad. However, i managed to keep the 63 laffer alive the entire time.

It was a challenge sometimes but thats what drives me, not always taking the easy and lazy way through the game. Anyone with half a brain can blow through anywhere in toontown with a bunch of high laffers. Why not take a break from the same old routine and accually try something that requires a little brain usage? Who knows you might even make someones day.

The attitude of most of the high laffers on this thread(and elsewhere) is pure selfishness and you all need to check yourselves. Sure there are low laffers that are griefers,just as there are high laffers that are intolerant.
And if you all are so sick of the things that happen in the game, DONT PLAY THE GAME!! Plain and simple. Cancel you subscription because its not gonna change, EVER