I'm tired of hi level toons acting like know it alls

[The Prankster]

Originally Posted by Red

As a 106 Laff toon (at the time) with fully maxed gags, I was confident I could handle anything the game could throw at me. But, to carry your analogy to its conclusion, if I'd arrived at the bullion mint and found some toons with 500 Laffs (approximately 5 times my Laff points, just like I have approximately 5 times the Laff points of a level 22 newbie) telling me it was too risky and asking me to please go away, I would've listened.


Then let them go in BY THEMSELVES, and not ruin the experience for the rest of us who know better. If a group of toons clearly does not want to go in the elevator with you, the polite thing to do is not try to force your way in.

Uh, just how young do you think the kids who play Toontown are? Kids learn to read around 2-4 years of age; I doubt a child too young to read would be able to play the game. Not to mention the fact that they must be very confused by their Toontasks. I mean, if you can't understand "recover a Cog Gear from a level 6+ Cog" you'd never make it out of Toontown Central.

That's a ridiculous point to raise. None of the newbs I've asked (politely at first, more firmly later on) to leave me alone has been unable to read. They've all responded "No" or "Don't be mean!" to "I think this is too risky for you" and "Please go away!"

Then they can go in by themselves, and get themselves creamed. I'm under no obligation to go down with them.

What about little kids that are STARTING to read? After all, NO and Please Go Away are a LOT more likely to be known by a smaller child than "Warning! Cog HQ!". Plus, aside from that, did you ever once consider people that don't know what HQ stands for? I didn't know what it stood for until I was like ten. Also, on the ToonTask thing, it's a LOT easier to get to a new Playground than do a ToonTask. To complete that task, they have to defeat Cogs and go visit Toon HQs and the like, while to get to a new Playground, all they need is the arrow keys. And I HAVE heard of 5- children that PLAY ToonTown, so don't start with me on that. Plus, some people are just plain STUBBORN. But just because THEIR mean doesn't give you the right to be mean back to them. Then YOUR just as bad as THEM.

Originally Posted by The Prankster

[...] This is a childrens game, and as long as it stays a childrens game, your going to have children that don't understand parts of the game.

The way I see it, Toon Town is an adult game in which children are allowed to play under supervision. I have children friends (plenty), most of them very well behaved and educated (Sid and Aisha are a shinning example of that).

[Noisy Flappy Frinkeltooth]

Originally Posted by Naganu

The way I see it, Toon Town is an adult game in which children are allowed to play under supervision. I have children friends (plenty), most of them very well behaved and educated (Sid and Aisha are a shinning example of that).

It was made to be a childrens game, but then a lot of adults started to play. Now 3/4 of my sfs are adults. And I don't see why children need to be supervised. Well unless they are 6 or under.

Originally Posted by ItsGoldMemba

It was made to be a childrens game, but then a lot of adults started to play. Now 3/4 of my sfs are adults. And I don't see why children need to be supervised. Well unless they are 6 or under.

Remember it is Disney you are talking about. It is all about money. More than a half of the phrases are adult oriented phrases, they will mean nothing to a kid, but lot to an adult. The tasks assume the "kid" can read and follow instructions quite well. Fishing and other tasks require perseverance and strategy, something lots of kids do not yet have.

Perhaps, originally, the game was made for children. As it is right now I would say their main audience are adults.

[Red]

Originally Posted by The Prankster

What about little kids that are STARTING to read?

Once again, you are seriously barking up the wrong tree here. I have never, not once, encountered a newbie toon who didn't understand me when I told him that the bullion mint was too risky for him and that it wasn't what he needed. They get it, all right. They just insist on wasting everybody's time anyway.

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by Naganu

Remember it is Disney you are talking about. It is all about money. More than a half of the phrases are adult oriented phrases, they will mean nothing to a kid, but lot to an adult. The tasks assume the "kid" can read and follow instructions quite well. Fishing and other tasks require perseverance and strategy, something lots of kids do not yet have.

Perhaps, originally, the game was made for children. As it is right now I would say their main audience are adults.

They put things in their animated movies that are 'meant' for adults as well, does that mean it's an adult movie? I have a nephew that was playing at the age of 3, he wasn't good at reading, but when he needed help he asked. The game is rated E for EVERYONE!! Just because all you happen to see are adults, doesn't mean the majority of players are adult.

Back on the subject of this thread, some high laff toons are intollerant of low laffs, and some low laffs are the same toward high laffers. I never use the stinky phrases, all it does is hurt feelings. I also never hop in an elevator and hop out at the last second, I think that's just as mean. I will say 'you need more laff points', if they choose not to listen it's not my fault. I have even been known to take those low laffers that 'shouldn't be there' in to have a peek. I'm curious as to what you guys think determines a 'low laffer' or 'newb', how low is 'low'? You start tasks in dl at about 60 laffs, so that means toons with 60 or more are working on cashbot suit pieces, this means they are big enough to be in cash hq. The same type of thing determines sell hq, at 35 laff you have to get blueprints from sell hq. Disney has determined these boundaries, but it doesn't mean you should be rude, no matter how many laff point you have! If you follow the golden rule things will be alot easier and more pleasant for all involved. Chill out, it's a game and supposed to be fun. You can always leave for awhile and come back later.

[Queen Fluffy Giggletoes]

I find it funny...all of it. "The high laffers", "The low laffers", where does it start and end? Well, it doesn't. Everyone has their own idea of what is high and what is low. And everyone plays this game so differently. There are helpers and there are selfish ones. There are low laffers that are a kick to play with and high laffers that are a pain. And vise versa. I choose my friends by how well they treat the other toons of all sizes. One day in vp I watched a mid laffer jump out of elevator at last minute on five groups before I left. She jumped out even on hollys. There was no way to warn the new ones coming in and it made me sick. The maxxed laffers can do the vp with 6 or 7 but not the without maxxed gags. That is not if the lures fail. Ugh. I have seven maxxed toons. Me and two friends take almost anyone and yes sometimes we go sad. Actually, sometimes we know we will when we go in. But it is a challenge and I think that some of the lower laffers get a chance to actually learn to be better players with the experience. Now that all you lose is gags it is fun to go and just try to make it with them. And we win more than we lose. When three of us are in dreamland and a 25 or so comes along, we take them. So far we haven't lost one. They seem to know how to play and I always assume that it isn't their first toon. I enjoy the challenge. I don't like it to be so darn easy like some do. I get a kick out of the maxxed toons that are afraid of low laffers. I am betting they are just not good players and don't have the skill to take a low laffer with them so I wouldn't be offened when they don't take you. I think the mid laffers have the worst problem with low laffers. Even with the skill, they dont have the gags to help the low laffers get through. In the mint it is a different story all together. Low laffers cant carry enough gags especially the long way. My friends and I will take 60's with us if we have the restock gags cards to use but I understand why most toons wont. I wont do the CFO. I refuse to be treated so disrespectfully because I am a short change. So I just don't try it. Lord knows I would not make it the first time anyway hee hee since I have no idea what is in there and dont like getting toons upset. I go in and watch the elevator shuffles sometimes just for laughs. I am amazed that we still have elevator shuffles in the VP!!! That really makes me laugh. So too the toons that have been treated badly, I am sorry that it is part of the game, but there are lots of helper toons out there. You just need to look for them, wait for them, and treat them well. And when you become a high laffer... help out the low laffers. It makes the game a lot more fun!

[Pinkersmirk]

I am all for helping low laffs I have 2 uber toons and have been a member of the CCG for quite a while now. I have pretty much stuck with doing the bullion with friends and when nobody is online gone in with strangers which in itself can be an adventure..
Last night I did the bullion with one of my good friends and 2 random toons. We ended up with a 62 laffer (no sound) and a 102 laff who had Trunk for sound. I have to say that this was one of the longest and most painful/challenging runs that I have done in my time on TT took us about an hour to complete. We started playing ok but after a while the 62 laffer started going after lured cogs on her own etc.. I had to restock toon-up before we made it out of the first room!
I have brought my ubers in to help friends and have helped some awesome lower laffs friends with a mint run. I just don't understand why lower laff toon on their own insists on going on this run. And then when they do they don't even have the courtesy to follow the others gag choices! Example: Going after lured cogs on their own..
Maybe it’s just me but there is no way that I would bring one of my ubers in the mint with strangers and play like that! The dollar or coin is one thing but the bullion come on!! If this is not an example of why high laffs are so hesitant to take lower laffs on these runs I don't know what is.

Your funny ideas are good... and funny. Too bad the whole paragraph is so hard to read, it would make a better reading (and cause a greater impact) if it was broken in 3 paragraphs or so.

For some people it is more than fun, it is competition. It is the desire to win and not go sad. Low laff/gag means less possibilities to win. Hence the shuffle, which I also hate. When my friends are not available to CFO, for example, I go to busy district and just jump in. I know I have greater possibilities of going sad by doing so, but I take a chance. Still, I prefer to CFO with friends.

I respect everyone, I just would not get into a bullion with someone with no gags.

[Silly Salty]

I have No Problem helping low laffers in Sellbot HQ, But when i have 20 Pre- LOM toons bugging me constantly to go in the Bullion elevator i get a little annoyed I dont look at laff either, If you have a fog horn Ill go with you but if your standing there with your gag bag full of Trumpets Whistles and Bike horns i think ill pass. Of course with the Coin mint im alot more leanient on it ill take soundless toons and pre-lom (even tho pre-lom really wouldnt have too much of a reason to be there, Unless of course they are on the Snow big deal crisis thingy looking for loan sharks.)

[JeffHardyboy]

Originally Posted by TrixTwinklemuffin

Not to be rude but, I am tired of people complaining about high laffers. You low laffers will see when you too become high laffers.

Yeah come 80 or 90+ laffs you will always ditch the smaller toons too you might think you aren't annoying but wait tuntil you are higher laff and you go with some small toons. You, "This is too risky for you", "No" says the smaller toons if the toons aren't strong enough all the toons go sad then!

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by JeffHardyboy

Yeah come 80 or 90+ laffs you will always ditch the smaller toons too you might think you aren't annoying but wait tuntil you are higher laff and you go with some small toons. You, "This is too risky for you", "No" says the smaller toons if the toons aren't strong enough all the toons go sad then!

Always is a long time, and speak for yourself, some people don't ditch!!

[rkhooda]

This really is a kid’s game. Yeah, some adults play as well, but the game is rated E.

As far as high laff, low laff is concerned; I play both so here is my take on it.

Low laffers are just having fun. To many kids, the fun is not achieving any goals, but to run around and get silly. This is especially true for below 10. Some times you see that behavior from high LP toons too (kid got a hold of a parent toon). If any toon is acting strange, your first thought should be "Its a kid". So show patience. Remember you as an adult are in their world. Play nice or go play a more adult MMORPG, not toontown (there is plenty out there)

Oh sure, is there grief players? Yes there is. When you see these guys, and no they don’t play like kids, the best thing to do is removing yourself from the situation. Don’t play into their hands; by playing the shuffle or using stinky phrases on other toons.

High laffers are mostly young teens, or adults. They seem to be more driven by completing tasks and achieving goals. Most of these guys already have their own friend groups that they run with. The problem is when you want to play and none of your friends are on. So you go to busy districts to just do random. That is where the Low LP, high LP thing comes into play. I recommend that you have a couple of spots open on your friend list. In busy districts if you find the person you want to play with, and you are having problems with shuffle, make friends with them and jump to another district. If they are as frustrated as you, then they will make friends and pop somewhere else.

To be honest, most of the rude behavior that I personally have seen lately comes from high LP toons. It’s true that low LP toons are gumming up the works, but the high Laffers are a bit meaner now, than the old days. Well maybe not meaner perse, but institutionalized. With shuffling, and abandoning toons in mint when the high LP gets his merit or bucks.

I think when an adult writes on the message boards, that they don’t have a choice but to be mean, I think what a loser (you can make valid excuses all day long, it dosent change anything). Coming up with solutions to problems is the job of an adult; otherwise you’re not truly an adult, but a big-hairy-baby.

Prince Peppy Gigglebounce
111 max no lure

[aurora borealis]

Originally Posted by rkhooda

Coming up with solutions to problems is the job of an adult; otherwise you’re not truly an adult, but a big-hairy-baby.

Prince Peppy Gigglebounce
111 max no lure

That was a good one! I love it!

[Little Biggenpoof]

I have been on both ends of the laff point system. Little Biggenpoof has 107 laff points and I try to help as many toons [low laff points] as I can. However, as it has already been stated, "This is not what you need." Sometimes, when in a building with a "low laff" toon, you have to make a decision to eother kill to cogs or save the toon. Saving the toon has actually cost my own life and in turn, the low laff as well. But, a lot of times, when not with my friends, I help as much as I can. When Little BiggenPoof was a "low laff" if a high laff said "I think this is too risky for you" I would go the other way.

Have a nice day!