It can't Be True?

[Rattlebones]

Let's assume they did lower Holly merits to 2500.
Now we're talking 4 1/3 hours to merit up.
I'd say that's far more reasonable.

[RoXyRoSiE91]

Far more reasonable!? Heck, let's celebrate for 100 years! 2500 would be sooo much relieving and faster than.. some lousy and take-forever 5000 merits...

[Rattlebones]

Considering right now it takes (using the same assumptions I've made in my last 2 posts ) about 2 hours of constant FULL Factory runs to get to 5500 merits . . . more reasonable is all I'm going to give.

[BunBun]

Originally Posted by Rattlebones

Let's assume they did lower Holly merits to 2500.
Now we're talking 4 1/3 hours to merit up.
I'd say that's far more reasonable.

Don't forget that would still be 25 full factory runs. That is still more than double what we had to do before. That, in my opinion is still completely unacceptable.

[Max_MacMuffin]

Well, ToonTown refuses to either confirm or deny anything regarding the Sellbot merits.

We'll just have to wait and see I guess. I'm guessing that if they go ahead and lower it to 97 merits per run, ToonTown will be losing alot of people. I for one want to max my toon out, I E get Holly 50, Robber Baron 50 and so on. But if they lower the merits but keep the current requirement of 5500 I wont do it, and thus I'll lose the whole purpose of me playing this game.

[LuckyDucky__]

^I have the same complete story and opinion as Max Mcmuffin above.

Basically, Cashbot comes out, 70+ laffers get excited for a month, then 50% of them leave due to endless merits.

The 70+ laffers are around 40& of the population, so they'd be doing a TERRIBLE market move that would get rid of a fifth of their customers and do no good to them at all. This is complete foolishness. *Sends report to Toontown in anger*

[Mr Red Bull]

The big thing is the MR hollywood 50's out there are laughing their heads off. Disney say the merit system was a mistake, and that everybody shud have been getting around 100 odd merits for full run.

Well thats just great now you take it away, well Disney you can't give something(even by mistake), the say Oh sorry we goofed there we fixed it now. All those toons that got to Holly 50 the easy way, are they getting demoted then!!!

Hello you can't take away something others have used to their advantage, and say well from now on everyone else will have to do it the hard way. No on something this big. If everybody had to do a 100+ merits instead of a 500+ merit run from begining then we would not be having this disscussion. But after a whole year!!! Then to say oops shud of corrected that sooner errr I think not!!! You can't take a year to fix a problem that big, that level of incompetance wouldn't even be execepted from a basic programmer let alone a company as big as Disney.

I do like the the idea of halving merits needed on higher merits required, or 1 merit per cog level (which at current levels makes whol fact 250merits) havent done a amount for lower cogs levels so don't know how much less that would be, probs about 40 less i'd say.

With 5 storey building producing a higher level of cogs to factory, its looks like a rush to DDL and sell bot builds for merits. Another idea now that theres two streets in DDL is to make Pyjama place 50-50 cash, law and luluby lane 50-50 sell and boss increasing amount of sell builds in one street of DDL. Gets everybody outta factory i spose.

'Keep it Kool '

[Sir Ernie]

I would not enjoy doing a billion facs just for 1 promotion. Disney said they wanted to make sell HQ easier for smaller toons. I dont think they are going to achieve that with this upgrade. They will make sell hq perhaps even harder then cash! Disney thinks that everbody will stop at HW 12 because that is where thier "promotion ladder" ends.

If they wanted people to stop at hw 12 then why did they add laff boosts at levels higher then hw 12? I think they should get rid of the hw 13 - 50. They could add laff boosts to other suits. Thats a smart thing to do to make up for thier stupidity.

[Colonel Smirky Electroquack]

Originally Posted by Sir Ernie

I would not enjoy doing a billion facs just for 1 promotion. Disney said they wanted to make sell HQ easier for smaller toons. I dont think they are going to achieve that with this upgrade. They will make sell hq perhaps even harder then cash! Disney thinks that everbody will stop at HW 12 because that is where thier "promotion ladder" ends.

If they wanted people to stop at hw 12 then why did they add laff boosts at levels higher then hw 12? I think they should get rid of the hw 13 - 50. They could add laff boosts to other suits. Thats a smart thing to do to make up for thier stupidity.

I disagree that Sellbot HQ is going to be harder than Cashbot HQ. If Sellbot HQ is in DG and Cashbot HQ is in DDL, why should they make Sellbot HQ harder? No offense


However, I agree that the hw 13-50 hw suits should be gone. After all, there are no 13-50 Mr Hollywood cogs

[Crazy Furball Sourburger]

OMG if this is true i will probably quit Toontown. The 5500 merits is hard enough, and still takes almost 3 hrs. Unless they reeduce the total for hollys to like 1000, it would be a lot better, with the 97 merit runs...but still thats just dumb. Hopefully it wont be like that on open.

[Kollins]

Wasn't there something in there about lowering the cog levels in the test factory to make it easier? Since merits are cog level based, is it possible that these reduced merits are only a result of the lower level of cogs present? Maybe Disney is going to adjust building and/or street merits to shift the merit seekers more into buildings and less into the factory?

In any case, test is the place for them to tweak these things, let's just hope they get it tweaked to something that isn't quite so boring before they send it live.

[Bunny Summers]

The only way I can see Disney redeeming themselves if they're going to lower sellbot levels is to lower the merits you have to get. If they don't do that, Disney can expect even more bad e-mails complaining about what they've done. Sellbot HQ SHOULD have lower cogs (after all, sellbots are generally the easiest cog) and anyone has mastered getting through it with relative ease now. But to expect us to still get 5500 merits AND lower the cog levels...THAT is a bit much!