100+ LP Toons not helping lower LP toons on VP runs

[P. Cheezypuff]

Another "low laff toon in vp" thread....HMMMMM. LOL. I just want to make 2 points here. First, A group of high laff toons that don't want to take lower laff toons in to meet the vp are usually inexperienced or predjudice. And never judge a toon by it's laff points!!!. You need to look deeper and analyze thier gags before coming to a conclusion. Especially now with all the ubers running about.

I've seen, and I know many others have also, 100+ laff toons that don't even have a single level 6 gag not to mention missing a few level 5's also. Be wary if you must. This usually indicates inexperience and/or a new player that doesn't understand the concepts and necessity of "gag training". The inexperience will kill ya but the new player will follow and aim to please. Too bad we don't have a way of determining that beforehand .

[LittleLemonPop]

This topic is brought up so many times it isnt funny anymore..... Ok it was never funny, but common.

Laugh has nothing do do with success. It depends on gags and experience.

Persontally I'll take a a 50 or higher (or around there), as long as they have the gags to back them up. It just all depends. But gags is the largest factor in choosing who to go with. It doesnt harm the group much to take one or two low people along. But there's a such thing as balancing your load, which most people dont have a concept of.

If your being told "I think it's to riskey for you" then it is. I say this because the toons your going with dont feel comfortable going with you and your sure to go sad, even if they arnt mean on purpose. Not that its your fault, it's their attitude. Find a group that's willing to go with you. And that applies to any laugh toon really. If you cant find a group maybe you should work on your tasks more and build your toon. Personally I think 70 LP is an average resonable laugh to battle the VP where there is no question whether or not the toon is ready. By this point the toon has finish LOM 2. I hear people saying "75" and "80". 75 maybe, but 80? Are you serious? Those people must not VP very often in success because that's ridiculus. No offense there, but jeeze.

And when I say "70 LP is an average resonable laugh to battle the VP" that's on the open server. The resonable average on test server would be about 50 LP. And I have to tell ya folks, the VP isnt any different on test than open or somehow "special". Only difference is the people behind the toons.

[kimmy]

We have taken some as low as 55, and helped them to win, but the difference is we cant talk and communicate what to do, and they follow every move cause they know if they dont they will die! But if I cant tell them what to play, I wont take a chance and take them. I hate the feeling of vp-ing with my friends and some noob comes along and sounds the lured ones, or hits the wrong cogs. I will surely save my friends first, and that is just no place for an inexperienced toon with no gags and low laff points. Not saying low laffers all dont have gags but lots! I usually wont run in the fac with anyone lower than 45, it just means another person to battle at the elevator anyway! Hate that. Half the time I did before, and they would stand back and let us kill, then tag along! Really bugs me, if you cant get thru the fac you cant get thru vp!!! There is a reason they make you go thru the Brrgh and DDL first. They dont have you fighting in Minnies before Mickeys!!! Stick to what you can do, before trying something you cant!

Sorry i dont mean to be rude about it, just been bothered for quite a while about Noobs!

[Pinkersmirk]

Ummm.. So you say experienced players never VP with their low laff toons?? You may want to go check out the CCG site http://potterwatch.com/CCG/ and look at the members of the CCG. We have quite a few members who have HW toons who also vp with their "low laff" toons. I for one have 3 low laff toons that I have gone to the VP with. One HW and one one victory away from ! My third uber is far from being maxed and has won while runnning with the CCG. FYI.. Most experienced players that have multiple toons have grown tired of the endless merit runs and are looking for a challenge so we have turned to running with our ubers. Just think it is best that you word what you said more carefully.. Most low laff ubers have a LOT more exerience than most.. Just check out my sig as well as others toons with ubers!

Originally Posted by Verkew

exactly, low laffers aren't expierenced enough to be doing the VP, they ruin things and put you at risk. You never see somebody that has multiple toons and has expierence do the VP with a one of their low laff toons...

[P. Cheezypuff]

Originally Posted by Pinkersmirk

Ummm.. So you say experienced players never VP with their low laff toons?? You may want to go check out the CCG site http://potterwatch.com/CCG/ and look at the members of the CCG. We have quite a few members who have HW toons who also vp with their "low laff" toons. I for one have 3 low laff toons that I have gone to the VP with. One HW one on her way to mingler! My third uber is far from being maxed and has won while runnning with the CCG. FYI.. Most experienced players that have multiple toons have grown tired of the endless merit runs and are looking for a challenge so we have turned to running with our ubers. Just think it is best that you word what you said more carefully.. Most low laff ubers have a LOT more exerience than most.. Just check out my sig as well as others toons with ubers!

Well said!!! You are a true Gentlemouse :P. Heres a suggestion for those who haven't. Try running with the ccg once or twice if you would like to see what a group containing low laff, experienced toons can do. It's all in the strategic use of gags and targeting the apropriate cog. Don't expect much sounding if any at all but you are more than likely to succeed and guaranteed good time.

[Pinkersmirk]

[quote=-X-]As for the 80 laffers being refused, I think that this is also wrong. The VP is mostly for anyone in the post-Brrrgh era. As long as these toons are actually capable of carrying their own weight aroung the VP, I'm fine with that.

Originally Posted by LittleLemonPop

Personally I think 70 LP is an average resonable laugh to battle the VP where there is no question whether or not the toon is ready. By this point the toon has finish LOM 2. I hear people saying "75" and "80". 75 maybe, but 80? Are you serious? Those people must not VP very often in success because that's ridiculus. No offense there, but jeeze.

And when I say "70 LP is an average resonable laugh to battle the VP" that's on the open server. The resonable average on test server would be about 50 LP. And I have to tell ya folks, the VP isnt any different on test than open or somehow "special". Only difference is the people behind the toons.

Would like to point out that most 6 gag uber toons have completed the Brrgh. My ubers Dawn That and Miss Micestro have completed LOM and have TP to DL. I don't completley agree with the remarks above because I have seen some Post-Brrgh toons at the vp who have a LOT lower gags than my fellow ubers who do not have the last track but are Maxed! IMO.. Seems to me that looking at the gags of a 60-70 laff in the lobby with NO level six gags and a low level trap or drop present for their gags is a lot less appealing than a uber toon with 5 maxed gags.

[Mr. Dusty Thunderflinger]

I dont want to risk the chance of going with a low laff toon.I have hardly any time to get my suit back....and my laff meter.....and my gags....and my jellybeans and another wait at the elevator.

[Pinkersmirk]

Why do I even waste my time.. All I can say is thank goodness for the GREAT toons of the CCG! And all of my fellow Snobby "Low Laff" Ubers!

Originally Posted by Mr. Dusty Thunderflinger

! dont risk the chance of going with a low laff toon.I have hardly any time to get my suit back....and my laff meter.....and my gags....and my jellybeans and another wait at the elevator.

[Pinkersmirk]

Originally Posted by P. Cheezypuff

Well said!!! You are a true Gentlemouse :P. Heres a suggestion for those who haven't. Try running with the ccg once or twice if you would like to see what a group containing low laff, experienced toons can do. It's all in the strategic use of gags and targeting the apropriate cog. Don't expect much sounding if any at all but you are more than likely to succeed and guaranteed good time.

You will definitley have a Great time if you go with one of his toons! You are definitley one of the CCGs funniest speedchaters!

[Mr. Dusty Thunderflinger]

Well sorry for makeing you mad.
I gave up on the Cog HQ I have no friends on because they are maxed out.
Also I could never find a group to help me fight the VP.
90 laffs are ok.
and factory is very hard; with the low laff toons(15-40!)crouding and the repeating of going back 26 times
Anyway im just sayin that I dont want to waste time.

[ZanyMega]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dusty Thunderflinger

I dont want to risk the chance of going with a low laff toon.I have hardly any time to get my suit back....and my laff meter.....and my gags....and my jellybeans and another wait at the elevator.

It seems you're more focused on completing the task at hand than on mastering the game. Someone who is a gamer at heart, in my opinion, would find the challenge of taking a low laff toon through the factory and the VP much more of an adrendaline rush than adding a laff point or a suit level.

A friend and I did the opposite last night. We took our low laff toons (one is 58 laffs and the other 62 laffs) through the factory several times with an uber toon. While we all had comparable laffs, the uber definitely had us beat in the gag category. With good teamwork and gag strategy, the three of us made the factory run look like a cakewalk.

P.S. Special thanks to both of the incredible uber toons who took a chance running with a couple of low laff monkeys last night. You are awesome! It was a blast!

[modgirl67]

If you want to vp and go... with some fantastic players ,caring people check out the CCG!
My toon princess lemon drops is a Holly 50 due to mostly CCG runs .

And thats what I use her for is CCG runs now ...she still likes to go!

I also have a 25 Holly,and my recent toon is a Gladhandler already.

Like Pink says check out the website the statistics are there.

The CCG I feel is your best chance at a fun...successful run! Look for me in the pit!

[Sheriff_Trixie]

Originally Posted by S_K_E

... I think this proves that n00bs shouldn't be allowed to go on the Vator. ... Not until 75 laff or so do you need to VP (toontask-impending)

That is a hoot! Try doing a VP run with 24 laff Here Kitty Kitty, he was a Glad Hander last time I saw him. Or Wendy Storm, HW level 30+ and under 49 laff. Not all low laffers are "Noobs". Many of them have big toons too and now they are looking for something else to do.

There is no challenge in going with a group of 100+ laffers. I have toons from 49 to 107 laff, and they are all happy to get on the elevator with "noobs" like HKK and Wendy anytime!

Sheriff Trixie 107 HW23
Captain Melody 92 M&S 5
Perl 49 CC4

[Ricky Electrofish]

I only take uber, high-laffers and supernoobs in vp. Regular noobs, i dont go with. I dont want to go sad and fill up my laffmeter, gags and kellybeans, and worse, parts!

[super dizzy gigglemouth]

Originally Posted by Ricky Electrofish

I only take uber, high-laffers and supernoobs in vp. Regular noobs, i dont go with. I dont want to go sad and fill up my laffmeter, gags and kellybeans, and worse, parts!

I still dont get it.... why not????

Since I started this thread........ I dont think one "negative comment" about going on runs with noobs has explained... with any validity..... why having to go run the factory a few times to get parts and Merits back is so bad. I mean really c'mon... so IF you by chance go sad in VP with a low laffer.... SO WHAT?????? Ive gone sad in VP with all 100+ toons... because the "team" just didnt mesh. there weren't any "noobs" or low laffers for them to blame the loss on.

Can anyone give me ONE really good... valid reason why high laffers shouldnt help a low laffer through VP?? I guarantee.. any reason you give will sound selfish and self centered but you can try

and BTW........CCG ROCKS!!!!