100+ toons should try to help noobs

[Crazy Furball Sourburger]

Ok, here comes the huge thread of me getting yelled at

I know, people are trying to avoid noobs in factorys and VPs, and I understand. But, if we want this to stop, we should try to help them. I'm not saying dedicate all your time to helping noobs, but when you see one wanting to go into the fac, don't be mean to them or tell them to go away, try helping them. One of your DG tasks is to beat a factory. I saw a toon who needed that, he told a high laff toon. The high laff toon just said "I dont care, Please go away and you stink. So I did a long run with him and one other 70 laff toon. We hardly ever got touched by a cog (maybe a goon though)

About Hollywoods not being able to do their long runs. Who cares? Noobs WILL follow you, they WILL go with you during a long run, they are afraid of dieing. Use the "Lets meet..." thing too. They will listen, i know from experience.

I do understand the VP situation, and I agree, toons that are not 60 laff + should NOT be in the VP room. This is the huge problem. We need to TRY to help these ppl, i know, i know, it ***, they are weak, but how are they gonna get better? We should give them a try in VP, even though you might lose, you will never need your merits back. I mean if you see anything like 15-40 laff, thats ok, they should NOT be there.

I'm just saying, we should try helping the people more often. Most of them don't want a VP run anyway, just factorys. So, we should try our best to help everyone who needs help.

[Rockin Rabit]

I want to help them. (Not that far. LOL.) So waht if their low laff. They can try. That's like saying to a 9 year old, "you didn't make the basketball team because you ****!" Their not good, you don't have to say it! There's a difference between being the best, and being your best.

[Rockin Rabit]

About the V.P. thing. Go with them. If they die, they'll know from experience. But, if we don't do this with V.P., then the factorys are going to end up, like they always did.

[Underdogpuff]

I always go with any I can in the Factory since being picky on factory runs will just waste even more time. The VP well... Let just say all my friends who are decent levels of LP tried the VP after I warned them to get better gags/Laff points and neither won. Really, in the VP is the only place i'm choicey and sometimes not even that can help out win the VP. The only real difference is that you really don't need to go to the VP until your higher leveled. The factory you have to beat a factory when your about 50 or less.

[Bumbleseed]

yes help them

[Poppy! the cat]

Whenever I see a toon mention their toontask of needing to defeat a cog factory, esp when they are DG toons, I always am willing to help them (unless I'm with a full group of friends already.. 4 fills up elev). And they are always happy to do long runs and work their gags since the friends I play with understand working/maxxing gags. Who knows why there are toons who react the way they do to others saying they have a task to defeat a cog factory? It's like the real world. You have winners and you have losers. Obviously those who react in this fashion are the losers.

The problem Hollys find with doing long runs is not with small toons at all! It is usually those from about 100-105 laff who haven't reached Holly level yet that only want short runs who will not even help those who need long runs do them. The new phrases "I need more Cog merits" really is a big help! Also many Hollywood toons (from small to high laffers.. there are some small laffers who are Hollys, remember that!) are going to Kookyboro to find other toons in need of long runs. Going to Kookyboro for long runs as well as the new phrases has helped me out for the most part.

Last thing, check gag strength since it is much more important than laff points. Too many weak 100+ laffers out there. Personally I'd rather go with a lower laffer with better gag strength than a high laffer without the power to help out as much.

[BunBun]

Having recently created a new toon, I have gained a different insight on the abilities and disablities of toons of various laff. One thing that is clear to me is that any toon from the dg task and on is perfectly capable of doing the factory with good teamwork, and they dont necessarily have to have a max toon escorting them. The other day, my new toon (82 laff, I call her new because she was 8-9 days old at the time this happened) assisted a 64 laff, a 44 laff and a 37 laff toon through the factory. At the time, my toon had no level 6 gag, but the 64 laff toon had a max cake. Even though my lures missed once on each of the 3 silos, we were still successful. I have to admit that I was apprehensive about assisting a 37 laff toon through for obvious reasons, but I wasnt the only one with toon up, and the others made sure his laff stayed full. It was kinda fun though and it proved one thing to me, good teamwork goes a long way.

[DutchAmerica]

I have a bunch of toons in various laff ranges too. Mid laffers definitely can do the factory run without a maxxed toon with them. Anything less than 50 laffs is a little risky. I know because I have tried. Even though my 42 laffer has great gags and I was running with well developed middies, those silo cogs can wipe out a 42 laffer or less in one round of attacks. For every laff you add over 50 and well developed gags, the factory gets easier and easier.

It's just a matter of carrying enough toon ups and good teamwork or good strategy.

[Poppy! the cat]

I want to say that not only should 100+ toons help noobs, but all toons should help fellow toons... that's what toontown is all about, teamwork and having fun!
If you know the factory, it is easy to accomplish without any maxd toons to help. I went on my dog when she was 42laff with my friend who was 25 laff (still is but now a super noob though at the time she was just working her gags) and her husband on his 90-some laff cat. None of us were maxd but using good teamwork (and taking out the goons in the warehouse while 25laff toon waited), we all won that factory. I had a DG toontask, my friend was just working her gags and her husband, though not maxd on that toon, had the most powerful toonup & lure and was there to help us through. We did wait while he lured since he thought it best to do that way in case it missed which it did only twice I think.
I also love bringing in DG toons who haven't been in factory before and showing them the way through when we have a spot in our group to bring one through. It's obvious that most have already been through and know the factory but have seen several who were obviously very new and learned the factory from our help. Always makes a toon feel good to do that
One more thing.. if you're with a group of all mid-laffers, go to the side entrance and defeat that room, then run thru the Pipe Room avoiding the cogs in there and run straight on to the warehouse. After defeating those cogs all you have left are the silos. It takes less gags this way and as long as you have good teamwork (and I like to have someone with strong lure, more important than sound esp. at this level) you should make it through.

[Lily Twinkledoodle]

[quote=Crazy Furball]Ok, here comes the huge thread of me getting yelled at

Nah. No way! I got your back!!!

[DutchAmerica]

This is not really yelling, but I started thinking about it.

Why does everyone just think that 100+ toons should try to help noobs? Aren't we all playing a game and trying to enjoy it?

Some High laffers like helping smaller toons, that's the way they like to play. Some like playing within their own peer group, and that should be ok too.

There are sooo many people playing toontown now that I don't really understand why toons can't make loyal and lasting friendships. I have some good friends on my list that I started playing with almost 2 years ago when we were 15 laffers just starting to play the game. I have new friends that I adore too. I have met a lot of friends through friends.

I myself will 'help' smaller toons in the headquarters on some occasions. Sometimes I don't feel so 'obliging' so I don't. It doesn't make me mean or stuck up, it's just that I am trying to enjoy playing the game too.

[Bumbleseed]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

This is not really yelling, but I started thinking about it.

Why does everyone just think that 100+ toons should try to help noobs? Aren't we all playing a game and trying to enjoy it?

Some High laffers like helping smaller toons, that's the way they like to play. Some like playing within their own peer group, and that should be ok too.

There are sooo many people playing toontown now that I don't really understand why toons can't make loyal and lasting friendships. I have some good friends on my list that I started playing with almost 2 years ago when we were 15 laffers just starting to play the game. I have new friends that I adore too. I have met a lot of friends through friends.

I myself will 'help' smaller toons in the headquarters on some occasions. Sometimes I don't feel so 'obliging' so I don't. It doesn't make me mean or stuck up, it's just that I am trying to enjoy playing the game too.

Mostly because they are the most capable. Not saying other smaller laff toons arent great players, but usually 100 laff is given the image of being able to do all Im only a 45 laff, but when I was 103 allot of toons expected me to play exceptionally well since I made it to my high laff...

[Salty Fiddlejinks]

Originally Posted by Crazy Furball

One of your DG tasks is to beat a factory. I saw a toon who needed that, he told a high laff toon. The high laff toon just said "I dont care, Please go away and you stink.

When I hear about, or see stuff like this happening; it really "chaps my hide!" This type of behavior is absolutely uncalled for. If someone doesn't want to help another toon, that is their option. But to stink someone because of their toon task is ridiculous! Good for you Furball for helping that poor toon. I imagine he was feeling pretty low before you came along.

Originally Posted by Crazy Furball

About Hollywoods not being able to do their long runs. Who cares? Noobs WILL follow you, they WILL go with you during a long run, they are afraid of dieing. Use the "Lets meet..." thing too. They will listen, i know from experience.

I agree some of the nicest and most accommodating toons for helping with merit runs are the little toons. The problem sometimes comes when you have toons unable or unwilling to work with others regarding gag choices.

Also, the little ones do not carry that many gags. Because of this (and speaking from experience), long runs are harder on little toons. You need to be experienced and smart in your gag choices, or you run short on gags by the time you reach the silos. For this reason, when I need long runs, I usually try to make sure there is a least one more mid-to-large laff toon along.

However, if any of the toons start stinking another, refusing a toonup, etc., I don't hang around to watch. I simply TP out to the PG or (most of the time) log off for the day, and try to get my parts/merits another time. At times, the behavior at the factory and VP lobby is so unpleasant; I find I have less tolerance even watching this kind of stuff. When I'm playing a game, I'm looking to have some fun. And this type of thing is not it. I do feel bad for the little toons left alone with the big bullies, but remember, they also have a choice to hang around or not. Perhaps these bullies will get a clue after they've been left a few times during a run.

Poppy the Cat is right. This game is all about teamwork. I don't understand, or relate to people who suppose they are better than others simply because of their laff count.

[Bumbleseed]

I agree, I remember getting chased by a toon all because my laff was 45. I need the factory and everytime he said "you stink" I would tell him I need the factory.....
10 minutes later he left me alone, tired of saying "please go away" and "you stink". I wasnt even anywhere close to the elevator, he found me.....

[Glory]

Just did my worst VP ever.. we all died before we got to the VP fight!!!
me and two other hollywoods took a bunch of cold callers in with us.. most of them had good gags and used up most of their best gags in the first fight...ok fine we still could have made it...but it wasn't lack of gags that killed all of us before we even got to the VP battle...it a 100+ cold caller using tiny sound and trap on the lured skelecogs and refusing to use her toonup (she had lev 6 toonup)...I dont mind helping lil ones.. sometimes it makes the fights more interesting but please please please work on your new gags in buidlings or on the street.. not in the VP!?!?!..

Oh well.. back to the factory

Glory
105 laff
all gags maxxed
no trap
'Miss' Hollywood lev 11