Chicken Big Toons and the VP

[LittleLemonPop]

I would really hate to go in with 4 60's and 40 100+ and have the 4 60's stuck by themselves, especialy when they dont have very many high gags.

But they might surprise you I guess. If and when they make it past the first round, you still got another chance at "luck of the draw", so I guess thats one thing to look forward to. Still gota worry about them all geting stuck together :S. And I know they made their choice, but I still worry

[MK_Superknees]

I've been there, LLP. It was my 40 laffer and three generic 70s. I was the only toon with any kind of lure, the only one with cakes, and the only one with clouds. Did we make it? You bet we did. Those are the moments that you remember.

Other memories from 40 laff VP trips:

Going in with 6 toons, 3 or 4 under 60 laff and all dancing
Me and one 100+ toon wiping out the skeleton round and VP
Several times my gags saving the day
Several 4-toon wins (Skeletons - Pies)
Several 3-toon wins (Skeletons - Pies)
One 2-toon win (Pies)
One unassisted pushover (Bottom of first ramp, on)

VP runs are so much fun when you're dancing on the edge of a knife!

[Bunny Summers]

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

Hey listen to this, too bad tuff luck plain and simple. Your son shouldn't expect high laffers to carry him on their shoulders.

Who said her son expected anyone to carry him on their shoulders? She said that he's gotten several toons really high up there. That doesn't sound to me like a person who wants it handed to him. Please, read the whole post again.

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

As long as I am paying for my subscription I'll get on the elevator with who I want when I want.

Yes, but if you go in with a random group of strangers, expect that not all of them will be terrific players even with 100 laff points. You're going to get greifers and people who don't know what they're doing. And who pays for their account? When you pay for everyone else's account, then and only then can you determine who gets to go where or when you start working for Disney. LOL. The only way you have control over that is by getting a group of your friends together. Otherwise, you take your chances and you contribute to a horrible problem of elevator shuffling, which I'm assuming makes you happy? If it doesn't, why do it?

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

And UMT they say birds of a feather flock together, reason being your skills or lack there of, are right there with the low laffers. Dont waste your time telling me how many toons you got, none of them are holly 50's so you havn't achieved the highest levels in the game on any of your toons. Im not interested in anything you have to say UMT.

That's funny because as far as I know, if it takes ANYONE to get to 50 Hollywood to get a real grasp on how to fight the VP, then it's not UMT's skills I'd be questioning. The fact is, the VP is BORING and the factory is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'm a Mr. Hollywood myself and I have no desire and am in no hurry to get to 50 Hollywood. I don't care about the laff points because what I could do at 110+ laff points, I sure as heck could do at 105 laff points. As far as I'm concerned UMT's skills aren't in question here. You've got one whole toon to 50 Hollywood. While that is an accomplishment, I will agree, it isn't a determining factor in where a person's skills lies. I've played *** UMT and she rocks! You base your opinion on her not by having played with her or talking to her, but on the fact that she disagrees with you. That's not winning an argument, that's defaming her character.

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

If I see your son in the VP room with a cold caller 2 suit, I'll ditch him in the elevator because he don't belong there with 50 laff, thats a joke and an insult to all the other toons who payed their dues to be there.

Maybe low laffers should complete the game before they go in, maybe they shouldn't. I've met my share of bonehead 100+ laffers to know that all of them shouldn't be there. By the same token, I've met a lot of low laffers who are very skilled and know what it takes to win without having to coast through. Those of you who know me, know my "rule" about taking leech toons who want to get through on the merits of other toons. Won't happen here. LOL. But I honestly believe that Loonytoon's son doesn't want a free ride. He's paid his dues several times over. LoonyToon has explained "I know hes only a Level 2 Glad Handler with 58 laff points, but he has over the past few month built up 3 toons over 100 laff points and 2 Minglers."

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

I agree with the other post that states come back at 70 laff if you got some gags or be shuffled out. I don't discriminate due to age which we usually don't know anyway.

Can you say contradiction? "I don't discriminate due to age..." Yeah, you do! To a toon's age. LOL

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

UMT dont bother to respond your points are worthless

Her points seem "worthless" to you because they disagree with your opinion. Debate, but don't call names, please! If you can't do that, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

[LittleLemonPop]

Originally Posted by Bunny Summers

Maybe low laffers should complete the game before they go in, maybe they shouldn't. I've met my share of bonehead 100+ laffers to know that all of them shouldn't be there. By the same token, I've met a lot of low laffers who are very skilled and know what it takes to win without having to coast through. Those of you who know me, know my "rule" about taking leech toons who want to get through on the merits of other toons. Won't happen here. LOL. But I honestly believe that Loonytoon's son doesn't want a free ride. He's paid his dues several times over. LoonyToon has explained "I know hes only a Level 2 Glad Handler with 58 laff points, but he has over the past few month built up 3 toons over 100 laff points and 2 Minglers."

Yeah lol. If you ask me I think her son has more skills then this dude. Anyone can go through a few thousand factoires and get to lvl 50 mr holly wood on one toon. It doesnt take much skill, it takes alot of nerves and sleepless nights. Two toons at minger? Id say thats a bigger acomplisment since he's maxed 2 toons and gotten them as far as he did in 3 months.

[Jewwelee]

I have seen this and I am so sorry your son was upset. One or 2 smaller toons won't mess up a vp battle if you all work together. If he ever wants to go, pm me and I'll get a group scheduled and we'll take him anytime I generally go with mostly secret friends, but only time we've ever avoided a little toon they were 27 laff with no gags at all. We chose to switch districts.

Please let your son know it may have been an accident too. I am not saying it was for sure. I, myself, have been left on the elevator on my 106 laff holly. The elevator shuffle is so frustrating and I can completely understand why he got upset. I hope his experience has been better since

Julie

[LittleLemonPop]

You know my brother was upset when this happened to him. I'd say he almost cried, but he isnt the type to cry. Does that make sense? He usualy channels his feelings into anger... Which is a bad thing really. He takes games so seriosly sometimes. Like when I was making a simple suggestion to him during the game boss of Luigi's Mansion on GCN today. He got mad at me and accused me of being a gynx (he was dying already, and he has already attempted it several times). Then he told me that I was being mean and do I wish I had a tape recorder.

When I went in the vp as a 64 LP I got the same treatment. I didnt really let it bother me much because I didnt care, and I was already expecting it. I just kept trying districts. Sure I was agrivated, but it didnt bother me as much. Some people need to understand that rejection by other people has a larger impact on little kids. And you never know who is "behidn the toon" ( i know thats been said, but I wanna say it again)

[Zowie_Paleburger]

Here's a tip for you people. When you see that someone has hopped off the elavator at the last second U alt + F4 immedialy before the elavtor door finishes closing. I kno how you feel But I am a 90 laffer. Wut they mean is they juss don't want to lose because they went in with a bunch of toons who don't hav the required laff. U got to get atleast 80 laff before going in the v.pBut of course there are no rules where you go in this game aslong you worked for it.

[LittleLemonPop]

Originally Posted by Zowie_Paleburger

Here's a tip for you people. When you see that someone has hopped off the elavator at the last second U alt + F4 immedialy before the elavtor door finishes closing. I kno how you feel But I am a 90 laffer. Wut they mean is they juss don't want to lose because they went in with a bunch of toons who don't hav the required laff. U got to get atleast 80 laff before going in the v.pBut of course there are no rules where you go in this game aslong you worked for it.

I'm sorry but I have to completly disagree with you there. I believe that once they reach 70 LP they are good enough to be "a big toon". But I check their gags to back up that asumtion :S. Most of the time 70 LP toons are high enough to not be looked at as a n00b. Not saying there is nothing wrong with taking a couple n00bs, but I'm just saying I think 70 would be more fair. If they are 70, they definatly have finshed that evil LOM task.

[Salty Fiddlejinks]

Sometimes it’s hard to figure out who the real enemy is, since Sell HQ came out. Is it the cogs or the toons that are gonna kill you next? Toontown used to be such a friendly place. I remember when toons used to help one another just for the sheer pleasure of taking over cog buildings or defeating cogs. You could easily complete your tasks with the help of friends, and many times, random toons running down the street. With the introduction of Cog HQ, it seems to have become a place where toons compete with one another more than anything now. The mere presence of suits, and progressively higher suits with each win, seems to have the distinct ability to go directly to some toon's heads. For some people, it even appears to border on “delusions of grandeur.” (This is a serious mental disorder, if you don’t know.)

When I made my forth toon, Lil Salty Fiddlejinks, I noticed negative HQ behavior more than ever. I started taking her into VP around the “acceptable” age of 80 or so laffs.

However, this did not matter; toons would not get in the elevator with her. I would have to get my big toon (by the same name), show them the Hollywood suit, and then come back with my little toon. That was soooo ridiculous! How many Cold Callers have a Hollywood suit hanging in their closet with their name on it? As she continued to go to VP, toons would attempt to kill her while fighting the cogs by refusing toon-ups, etc. One toon even continued hurling the stinky’s during the victory dance after we had won!!!! This was all because she was not a high enough suit level or 90+ laffs. (BTW, she is NOT a slacker in VP, so that was not it.)

After having this happen a few times, I decided to make an “Uber Noobie” toon. I decided to take a little toon, under 50 laffs, all the way to Hollywood. I did this in an attempt to open up the narrow thinking in some of the pea brains down in VP. During the process I found that had more fun with my little toon than I did with my great big maxed out toons. I also met more people doing the same thing, some with similar reasons to mine. It certainly made things more interesting. We had to live by our wits, (to not get killed by fellow toons) as well as our gags against the cogs.

Well Loony Toony, I have shared this story to let you know I absolutely feel for you and your son. Dottie became an Uber, because of things like this. Whenever she got the stinkys or was told to go away, I always thought of the children playing. Once I TP’d to a friend outside VP and was told to go away by a toon with the name “Mom” as part of her name. What if I had been a little girl wanting to run VP with my (big full-laffed) dad, and a “Mom” told me to go away? These rude, narrow-minded, weak big toons need to get a life and get over themselves! I don’t think the direction the game has taken was in Disney’s original intent. Well, Dottie Comm is doing her part, when she gets do go down to the VP lobby (after her 5500 merits), to try to make a difference.

And any of my toons would be more than happy to take your son (and his friends) down to fight the VP. Just tell me the time and place, and I’ll meet him there! Sorry about your experience, keep in touch!

[UMT]

Originally Posted by Good ole Ozzie Dandy

Hey listen to this, too bad tuff luck plain and simple. Your son shouldn't expect high laffers to carry him on their shoulders. As long as I am paying for my subscription I'll get on the elevator with who I want when I want. And UMT they say birds of a feather flock together, reason being your skills or lack there of, are right there with the low laffers. Dont waste your time telling me how many toons you got, none of them are holly 50's so you havn't achieved the highest levels in the game on any of your toons. Im not interested in anything you have to say UMT.

If I see your son in the VP room with a cold caller 2 suit, I'll ditch him in the elevator because he don't belong there with 50 laff, thats a joke and an insult to all the other toons who payed their dues to be there.

I agree with the other post that states come back at 70 laff if you got some gags or be shuffled out. I don't discriminate due to age which we usually don't know anyway.

UMT dont bother to respond your points are worthless

Good ole Ozzie

111 laffs
all gags maxed
no drop
64 fish
Mr. Hollywood level 50

Who's out there behind the mask of a new member name?

[Spunky]

Today's Noobs are tomorrows Hollys, ladies and gents, and it's up to the skilled players to try to teach the noobs the best strategies for HQ and cog fighting in general. Leave the noobs to play with the noobs, and how can you expect them to develop?

I've died many times in VP because I am "braver" than many Hollies, and perhaps six Cold Callers (48-90 laff) with my friend and I is a bit on the difficult side, but when you win.... WHEEEEEE! I work VERY hard to get my 5500 merits, so when I fight the VP I want a feeling of satisfaction. Some toons get that when the VP is a walkover - I don't. That doesn't mean they are wrong.

Yesterday I had a low laffer on my side who had only brought bananas, rakes and marbles. Nothing else. (S)he killed all of us. So what? (S)he maybe didn't learn anything. So what? The other low laffers did - they were all shouting "No!!!" before we died.

MY MAJOR POINT IS that toons who get upset when Hollies elevator-dance (I get annoyed, and I'm a holly, and a mingler, and...) are NOT seeing the majority of high laff toons. High laff toons who know how to play Toontown do NOT dance around in the lobby of HQ. They go in and fight the VP more or less with the first 8 toons who are around, enjoy themselves, and take their chances. As a result you DO NOT see these toons very often because they are in with the VEEP or in the Factory. The toons who give hollies and high laffers a bad name, however, you see VERY often. This is for one simple reason - they spend most of their time in the HQ lobby dancing around, being mean to small toons, and waiting for six or seven other high laffers.

Please don't tar all high laffers and high cog suits with the same brush for this small minority. Thanks for your understanding.

By the way, the distribution of toons between the sides is not random at the start. The four on the left hand side of the elevator go left, and the four on the right hand side go right. Haven't studied enough to tell you what happens in the Skelecog round - probably depends how many toons survive round 1.

The earlier suggestion to join the Cold Callers Guild is an excellent one if you are in the right country. Sadly for me the only times I am awake when CCG meets are Friday and Saturday nights, and the call of Real Life is just too strong for me.

Enjoy TT. Don't let bullies get you down, but bear in mind that every community has its bullies. They think they're great, and they think they're right, and they bully to hide their inferiority complexes. Ignoring them is the best strategy. Change district if you are getting treated badly. To catch the 'quality' high laffers, you have to be lucky enough to be in the Lobby when they pass, because they don't hang around.

Cheers!
Spunky

[Good ole Ozzie Dandy]

[quote=Big Tom Supernugget]

Wow, think you could be any more rude?

Rude no, realistic yes. I will always shuffle out low laffers.

These kids aren't looking for high laffers to carry them on their shoulders. The lower laffers are willing to contribute to the battle along with everybody else.

Get 8 58laff toons together ( not super noobs just normal 58's ) and lets see if they are being carried. Don't grab toons with 2nd and 3rd toons, but a true mix of what normally is found at the elevator and I'll get my popcorn hee hee

If you're really a Holly Level 50, you should have figured out LONG ago that you don't need eight 70+ toons to defeat the VP.

No you don't need 8 maxed 100+ toons, but those runs are full of peace and serenity and no stupid moves to bother you. ( although not all 100+ toons are good players, they have the ability gag wise not make up for their dumb mistakes if they happen ) I choose to avoid level 1 gags in the vp.

if someone insists on having eight 70+ toons every time, I'd say it's because his skills aren't up to par.

who cares what you say, ive defeated the vp with 4 toons going in and you cant tell me nothing about the vp. Your skills are weak arent they?

And yes, the kid does belong there. He earned his suit -- that's the price of admission. Deal with it.

I am dealing with it in my own way youve heard of the elevator ditch havn't you?

Good Ole Ozzie

[Good ole Ozzie Dandy]

[quote=MK_Superknees]:

Any 8 year old with lots of time can make it to 50 Hollywood.

and you havn't yet, shows your lack of skill you make me laugh

I don't care what level you are, and no one here whose respect is worth having cares either.

and what makes you think that i care about you and what you think? your a poor excuse for a high laffer needing to hide your flaws with noobs. they wont see your terrible gag selections and lack of skill. fought alongside you been there done that

Is this a safe kids game or a game where you intentionally make people cry?

nobody knows the ages of stangers first of all, secondly, how many kids are crying due to these low laff scrubs hijacking the elevators and causing hours of wasted time

you elitist.

you betcha and proud of it

You've earned a place on my "Avoid at all costs" list. Congrats!

now why would i want to be in an elevator with a weak toon like you

[Good ole Ozzie Dandy]

[quote=Bunny Summers]

Who said her son expected anyone to carry him on their shoulders?

dah, 58 laff thats a joke a funny one at that

And who pays for their account? When you pay for everyone else's account, then and only then can you determine who gets to go where or when you start working for Disney.

I really dont care who pays for their account, I choose who I will go in with, if the don't want to go with me thats ok, part of the game and something the origional poster has to come to grips with.

That's funny because as far as I know, if it takes ANYONE to get to 50 Hollywood to get a real grasp on how to fight the VP, then it's not UMT's skills I'd be questioning.

when and if you ever get there bunny then you can speak out, until then you are not in a position to speculate.

I don't care about the laff points because what I could do at 110+ laff points, I sure as heck could do at 105 laff points.

so funny, that reminds me of the old saying, "money doesnt make you happy"
and the only people who say that are poor.

base your opinion on her not by having played with her or talking to her, but on the fact that she disagrees with you. That's not winning an argument, that's defaming her character.

again you talk about what you don't know, i have played with UMT and she rocks to you because your lack of skills allows you to see it that way. Im not defamng her character, Im calling a spade a spade.

I've met my share of bonehead 100+ laffers to know that all of them shouldn't be there.

yes some high laffers do do boneheaded things and are bad players, but when they do do boneheaded things they got level 6 toonup to make up for it not a megaphone.

LoonyToon has explained "I know hes only a Level 2 Glad Handler with 58 laff points

not a glad hander, hes a cold caller lets get that right the mother was in error and you would know that there is no such thing as a level 2 glad hander if you had the proper grasp of the game.

Debate, but don't call names, please! If you can't do that, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I can do that, as long as you warn the others who have calle me names the same thing, but you havnt why not?


Good Ole Ozzie

[LadyVioletTwinkletoe]

Originally Posted by Super lime

The moral of the story:
Dont pick sellbot hq toontasks until you are 70 laff
I think that most of the newer toons that pick these tasks
are basicly wanting high 80-111 laffers to carry them through and toon
them up while they just sit there with pointless gags. I know
there are a couple of toontasks that you HAVE to do like defete 1 factory
for a daisys garden task but i think that is the only one.
A lot of the time low laffers are just wanting high laffers to carry
them through the Fac/Vp.
Maybe try not to pick as many as these tasks
BUT this is still not a good reason for these high laffers to not help
thes low laffer onec in a while.
Remember when you were a low laffer?

I think it is time for you to make a new toon! Your lp are too high, you probably went through DG before SellHQ opened. Now factory tasks are part of DG progression. How can you tell 40+ laffers who have already been in the factory, that they should not go? You need to see it from their perspective!

And there is no way of knowing if the lower lp/cog suit in the VP is a player with other higher lp toons, or even a super noob in training. 3 or 4 maxxed toons can easily carry lower lp toons through the VP. I have done it myself with my many friends of mixed stages.