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[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

They are offered 1 maybe 2 headquarters task, unless they volunteerily take the factory tasks. Completing 1 task does NOT get them a complete outfit.

But is sure does show intent by Disney to intorduce lower toons to the factory/VP area and LEAVE IT UP TO THEM as to when to return. I do not see where you, nor anyone else has a right to decide when they complete suits and attempt the VP.

Many of the low - mid toons showing up there are either doing volunteered tasks or NO tasks, or they are supposed to be getting lawbots, etc., in ttc or the docks.

I wasn't even going to reply to either of your posts, until I saw this little gem. Supposed to? Show me where it says what you MUST do and in what order it MUST be done? This is an open structure game. You are free to concentrate on tasks and follow the story line, forget tasks and max your gags for now, and/or do anything else you like with your toon! We all pay for our accounts and we each enjoy different things about this game for different reasons. I'll thank you to not tell me what I must do with my account.

What difference does the suite make? It's the toon UNDER the suit. The big fancy suit doesn't make that toon any better than anyone else. So don't insult the rest of us that have worked hard finishing our tasks but might not be 'Hollies".

The suit doesn't exactly tell you how good of a player anyone is, this is true. However you can imply that a high holly likely has a better understanding of the strategy involved in the VP battles then say a CC3 right? Of course it isn't perfect and exact. You argue in a post after this that you should have the right to play with only high toons, yet seem upset if anyone is suggesting they would rather take a maxed lower toon with a full suit over you. You can't have it both ways dutch! We are ALL free to go with who we want, or not take anyone we want. I am one of those that will take suit over LP anyday. Deal with it.

And I would like to point out that HAD I spent ALL my time in the headquarters, I would have been a Mr. Hollywood too,

But you aren't. You have not spent 4 straight hours in the factory only to do it all again. You have not been around long enough to have had to get to 10,000 merits as it was long ago. You have not had to deal with the shuffle at both the factory and VP for over 40 suits. You have not faced the game when the glitches were so bad that your chances of beating the VP were slim even with a group of 8 maxed toons.

In short, you choose to do your tasks over SHQ and that was your right to do but you are still a novice in this area. Your skills and views are certain to change over time as you have to deal with the things we have.

See when you put somebody on a pedestal you are insulting everyone else.

No one is putting maxed mid toons, holly 50's, nor anyone else on a pedestal here. Getting to these goals takes a lot of hard work and you continue to attempt to say it doesn't mean anything. We are only responding to that. My maxed mid toon went through a LOT to get to holly 14. Much more then you could imagine. It was a challenge and at times was a lot of fun despite toons who attempted to stop me from playing the game the way I want.

That is someone that intentionally kept his toon small. Someone who is in the 50ish range with maxxed gags is someone who is stalled on a task and doesn't feel like finishing it.

You don't get the point at all.
1) Who are you to tell anyone else how they should play their game? It is allowed for us to make these toons so why shouldn't we? Because you don't like it?
2) It isn't because we don't want to finish a given task, how insulting. Perhaps you are only on your first toon and just haven't reached the level of boredom as the rest of us. This is a growing trend because these toons are more of a challenge then working a toon the traditional way. Disney has been SO SLOW to put out new content that this is what we are left with to amuse ourselves. Again, I'll thank you to not tell me how I MUST play this game.

Does that make him a hero above everyone else that had dones their tasks?

Who ever suggested anything about being an hero? You played your toon your way, and we play with ours as we see fit. I have a full toon that was worked the way you did (almost holly 50 now) AND did a maxed mid toon as well. I am no hero and have never suggested anyone else is.


Dutch, you are not a better player because you decided to wait to go to the factory/VP until you were ready. You can chose to play that way if you like, but everyone else is free to play their way as well. Not only are super noobs, maxed mids, and other novelty toons allowed to VP, but regular old new 40's and 50's are free to try it out as well. You can chose not to go with them, but they do have a right to try to go.

Lighten up a bit, it is only a game!

[Dawggie]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

Ok, Mid laffer super noobs are gods and I will make sure I bend over backwards to accomodate them. No matter whether I pay to play with the game or not, I will make sure I get NO enjoyment from the game whatsoever.
I will just dedicate myself to helping every selfish toon finish what ever task or what ever goals they are working on. I will just hang at the factory and 'safe' guard whatever toon wants to go through. I will just go sad during vp and be happy about it because someone ELSE wants an adrenaline rush. That's my motto from now on.

OMG!! Are you suggesting that I or someone else is requiring YOU to go into VP with a Super Noob?? That could not be further from the truth. As a paying customer like the rest of us, you have EVERY right to play the way you want and play with the toons of your choice. If I in any way suggested that you are required to play with Mid-laffers whether they are super noobs or not, then I stand corrected. However, I dont believe I said that at all. My last post was meant to enlighten you as to why people create such toons.

Did you read the entire post?

If you did, you would not have come to the conclusion that you did in your last post.

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

You are real smart aren't you. And as far as the toon showing up in my signature line, you are right. SHE is not quite maxxed yet. You are just ASSUMING I am talking about Robin Bobin just like people assume I'm Dutch.

Unless you volunteered more information about the toons you were playing, what more can we go by other than what is listed in your signature. There is now way for anyone to know that you are referring to any other toon you may have.

You should not take these posts so personal. It was not meant to be a personal attack against you. If you go back and read the post, you'll notice that I did not attack you in any way.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

Because I am a 105 maxxed gladhander, I am not as good as a maxxed 50 laffer Hollywood because I haven't done the same repetitive chore over and over again?

NO one said you are not as good as anyone else, however it is the truth that you are not as EXPERIENCED as high holly toons. This isn't an insult, just fact. Just being experienced doesn't make you better as each player may grow from their experience at different rates.

I don't find that many competant lower laffer to take, but I don't refuse them if they are at a certain gag level and have battled before.

Ok, so you make judgements based on a toons LP/Gags and yet are upset that others may make judgements on you based on your suit level. You want to talk about irony huh?

Do YOU remember what is takes to get to 105? We had to do various tasks that were required. It's a lot different then running the same route over and over and over again. It takes discipline to stay on task and a lot of battling and strategy. Has a 50ish laffer even finished the Brrgh? I don't think so.

It takes a differnt kind of strategy for the factory/VP area. At least with tasks it wasn't so repetative. It also takes discipline to do something that is so frustrating and boring so many times as to reach that level.

You want a cookie for reaching 100? Sounds like you want someone to pat you on the back for it.

It's one thing to stand up for your friend that is a good strong mid laffer but it's another to insult other players that are just as good but chose to follow their tasks to completion rather than just dedicate themselves to doing the vp.

PLEASE show me the insult? The fact is that someone who has beat the VP 40+ times is MORE LIKELY to be a better player to take then someone who has a handful of wins. This isn't an insult, it is our right to decide who we wish to take along and who we do not.

Is it wrong for me to WANT to do the VP with toons of my OWN level? Shouldn't that be MY right and not be called stinky for it?

You are free to play as you wish so stop trying to take that same right from us! This is where you are just not getting it.

What happens if the new playground has more laffs to get and new gags? Those 50 laffers will still have to complete their tasks before moving on. So in some ways they are only handicapping themselves.

1) IT IS THEIR GAME TO PLAY AS THEY WISH! You are the one trying to dictate how others should play and then fight for your right to play your way. This is blatent hypocrisy at its finest.
2) If there are requirements for toons to complete a given area/task before getting to go to new content novelty toons are free to decide if they want to take those toons there or not and can easily complete them then.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

Ok, Mid laffer super noobs are gods and I will make sure I bend over backwards to accomodate them. No matter whether I pay to play with the game or not, I will make sure I get NO enjoyment from the game whatsoever.

Are you ESL? (english as a second language) because I sure do not see where you are being told you must play with anyone or stop enjoying the game. To the contrary, others are asking you to stop telling them how to play!

Play this game as you see fit, just stop telling everyone they are wrong for doing the exact same thing please.

Everyone in the game has a right to go to the factory and VP no matter how long they have been in the game and no matter what their LP is. We all also have a right to key on any part of the game and ignore others at will. We have these rights and should not be put down by you nor anyone else for excersizing those rights.

[doc quackenheimer]

Originally Posted by DutchAmerica

in this conversation?

Do YOU remember what is takes to get to 105? We had to do various tasks that were required. It's a lot different then running the same route over and over and over again. It takes discipline to stay on task and a lot of battling and strategy. Has a 50ish laffer even finished the Brrgh? I don't think so.

Since you haven’t tried making both types of toons you really can’t understand the differences between the two. First off we probably all spent several times the amount of time necessary on our first toon to complete our tasks. It’s really not that big a deal. Second the tasks being offered now for laff boosts are extremely easy especially the ones after 60. The hard tasks the super mids are completing for the first 5 or all 6 gag tracks.
If you really want a challenge try getting 5 gag tracks and couple or more level 6 gags in a week. Quite a few of us have done that or more. There’s a couple of toons that got all six gag tracks and high level gags in around a week and figured out how to do it keeping their laff in the 40’s. If you really want to see hard try doing that. After camping gags for a few hours you'll probably be begging to do your tasks again.