Sad and frustrated

[Jimmy Blabber]

I took my 50 laff toon (maxed throw, squirt and sound, and goggles and juggling balls) into VP last night for the second time. My 50 Toon is a level 2 Cold Caller. My friends (2 level 31 Hollywoods) ended up on the other side both rounds. All right, I was the lowest laff toon present, but had better gags than all the "team mates" I played with.
What made me sad and frustrated was one toon who withheld toonup from my toon, pretended to have run out of toonup, kept saying "I need a toonup", used elephant on cogs I'd lured with hypnogoggles and big magnet, wasted a round exchanging toon up with another toon when I was using juggling balls to toon both up. We had one toon either not playing or disconnected during the skelecog round. You guessed it, I went sad first half way through the skellecog round. Then the two remaining "team mates" went sad them selves next cog attack round.
What frustrates the heck out of me, is that we could all have got through to the pie throwing easily. If it weren't for a mean and moronic yellow cat. Sure, it's just a game. Lost three suit pieces, so what, right? Well, it's a lot more fun to win and beat the cogs and VP.

[Sesshomaru]

geez that *** dude i agree

[Apple Crumble]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Blabber

Then the two remaining "team mates" went sad them selves next cog attack round.

Good! I wish people would learn that even if you don't like the other toons you're playing with, it doesn't help anyone to deliberately sabotage the battle. I mean, if they were that disapproving of your toon (for whatever reason, I guess they had a problem with your laffpoints) then they shouldn't have gone in with you in the first place. Grrr.

[Sally Kat]

Weird.
So what if there's a mid laff toon in there, if he's lucky he'll make it, if not he'll go sad. :shrug:
You don't need many toons to finish him off with the pie toss...

[MK_Superknees]

I'm sorry that this happened to you. I'm afraid that it's far from uncommon, though. My 40 laffer has been 'murdered' (purposely sent back to the playground sad) in VP at least a half-dozen times.

[doc quackenheimer]

Originally Posted by Sally Kat

Weird.
So what if there's a mid laff toon in there, if he's lucky he'll make it, if not he'll go sad. :shrug:
You don't need many toons to finish him off with the pie toss...

thats the typical misinformed concept alot of people have. My 63 laff toon has only gone sad twice in VP. The first time it was poor play by another player. The second time was yesterday where the other side went sad the first round. The four remaining got split 3 and 1 in the skelecog round. of course the one on the other side went sad. Then there was a disconnect. That left me and a skilled cat toon who played for what seemed like about a half an hour of skelecogs. We still finished fully tuned. The pie fight didn't go as well. I also got told yesterday at the factory "I think this is too risky for you". What a joke.

[Panzerfaust]

While I always do my best to keep any toon alive once he's up there with me I do sorta wonder why low laff toons feel the need to be at the vp in the first place. I mean, there are plenty of things for them to do at that level that would actually benefit them. And they do present somewhat of a risk for the other members of the vp-party. Personally I didn't bother to try the vp until I had 80+ laff. I can understand others who want to do it a bit earlier, but why not at least get Lil Oldman done first?

Yeah I know there's a task to take a 50 to the vp. I just don't see why people would want to be that 50.

And I can't think of anything good to say about those 50s that keep forcing themselves on parties that are trying to gather at the elevator. If people keep jumping off and/or saying 'I think this is too risky for you', take the hint. Please. People say it because they're concerned about themselves, not you. Who can blame them? You may be the best low laff toon in the world, but how can they know? Why should they risk having to do an additional X factory runs on that? Just don't be surprised if people are upset that you're there if you manage to sneak in anyway after an exhausting episode of elevator shuffling.

[skippysnifflesnooker]

My best advice for not going sad in vp especially if you are at 50 lp, is to make sure you have at least 4 friends w/you, thus assuring you will not be alone in any battle. If you see me, I usually have Sir Skippy ready, as he is a Holly 50 and no longer waits for the vp to topple, so the most he ever needs is a few parts. I would be more than happy to try and take you thru VP, to a happy ending too. Mister Skippy usually does VP at least once in a day.

[Sally Kat]

Originally Posted by doc quackenheimer

thats the typical misinformed concept alot of people have. My 63 laff toon has only gone sad twice in VP. The first time it was poor play by another player. The second time was yesterday where the other side went sad the first round. The four remaining got split 3 and 1 in the skelecog round. of course the one on the other side went sad. Then there was a disconnect. That left me and a skilled cat toon who played for what seemed like about a half an hour of skelecogs. We still finished fully tuned. The pie fight didn't go as well. I also got told yesterday at the factory "I think this is too risky for you". What a joke.

No I'm not misinformed. What I meant was that the risk of sadness is much higher with only 50 laff.
It's not laff I look at , it's gags actually...I've seen many 63 laffers with gags higher than 100 laffers, all depends on your style of play ( helpful to friends or just a task master).
I get annoyed too when people chase away mid laffers, not realizing they are better prepared for battle then many high laffers.
Why are there so many weak high laffers out there lately?...I used to feel safe with a couple of 100 laffers but not so anymore.

[doc quackenheimer]

Originally Posted by Sally Kat

No I'm not misinformed. What I meant was that the risk of sadness is much higher with only 50 laff.
It's not laff I look at , it's gags actually...I've seen many 63 laffers with gags higher than 100 laffers, all depends on your style of play ( helpful to friends or just a task master).
I get annoyed too when people chase away mid laffers, not realizing they are better prepared for battle then many high laffers.
Why are there so many weak high laffers out there lately?...I used to feel safe with a couple of 100 laffers but not so anymore.

I agree with your clarification. Your first comment was made following posts by two huber low/mid laffers, and you really should have distinguished between high gag mid laffers and poorly equipt mid laffers in VP. A couple of low gag toons is not that much risk in VP. The biggest risk is poor strategy, such as people working gags in VP. Another thing I see alot is people insisting on sounding when 3 skelelecogs are already lured. What about the next group of four 11 and 12's coming out. That's how alot of mid laffers end up going sad, the round after sounding.

[WizardHawk]

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

While I always do my best to keep any toon alive once he's up there with me I do sorta wonder why low laff toons feel the need to be at the vp in the first place. I mean, there are plenty of things for them to do at that level that would actually benefit them. And they do present somewhat of a risk for the other members of the vp-party.

There are pleny of things for them to do at that level? Yes, this also includes both the factory and VP. Disney has set it up for all players of ALL levels and actively encourages everyone to go. These toons have as much right to be there as you do. There are supposed to be risks all over the game. Just because there are a few high laffers that want to remove all risk (which removes some of the fun IMO), doesn't mean those lower toons do not belong there. I have been with lower toons who went sad and it didn't effect my ability to beat him. Perhaps your experience is different.

Yeah I know there's a task to take a 50 to the vp. I just don't see why people would want to be that 50.

I don't mean to make assumptions about your skill/experience, but when you have played as long as I have and are just bored as heck, having a challenge like taking a smaller toon into the VP is about all you have left to try and make it even remotely interesting. Sam is at 53 and will not being seeing LOM1 until he is a holly 12. I pay my TT bill and have the right to play this way. You do not have to go with me, but you sure don't have the right to say I don't belong there.

And I can't think of anything good to say about those 50s that keep forcing themselves on parties that are trying to gather at the elevator. If people keep jumping off and/or saying 'I think this is too risky for you', take the hint. Please. People say it because they're concerned about themselves, not you. Who can blame them? You may be the best low laff toon in the world, but how can they know? Why should they risk having to do an additional X factory runs on that? Just don't be surprised if people are upset that you're there if you manage to sneak in anyway after an exhausting episode of elevator shuffling.

The elevator shuffle is caused by toons on both sides of the issue, not just the little guys. I have only taken sam on one run and it was an unscheduled CCG run of sorts. I wouldn't 'force' myself on anyone but you have to understand why some of the lower toons do so. They are offered tasks by the HQ for doing things like getting 2 VP's and yet they get insulted no matter where they go. We are talking about KIDS here folks. They are curious and sometimes need a run for their tasks. Sure they didn't HAVE to take a VP task, but Disney made it an option. How is it that folks here seem to think they can make up rules outside of the Disney model? If you don't take them, they will keep trying and do it to the next group. They need to learn what it is all about and see how hard it is. Most lower toons that I know of went in once and decided all by themselves not to return until they are higher.

I will be taking my 53 to the VP and there isn't a darned thing you, nor anyone else in here, can do about it.

Have a nice day.

[Yellow Horse]

Originally Posted by Panzerfaust

While I always do my best to keep any toon alive once he's up there with me I do sorta wonder why low laff toons feel the need to be at the vp in the first place. I mean, there are plenty of things for them to do at that level that would actually benefit them. And they do present somewhat of a risk for the other members of the vp-party. Personally I didn't bother to try the vp until I had 80+ laff. I can understand others who want to do it a bit earlier, but why not at least get Lil Oldman done first?

Yeah I know there's a task to take a 50 to the vp. I just don't see why people would want to be that 50.

And I can't think of anything good to say about those 50s that keep forcing themselves on parties that are trying to gather at the elevator. If people keep jumping off and/or saying 'I think this is too risky for you', take the hint. Please. People say it because they're concerned about themselves, not you. Who can blame them? You may be the best low laff toon in the world, but how can they know? Why should they risk having to do an additional X factory runs on that? Just don't be surprised if people are upset that you're there if you manage to sneak in anyway after an exhausting episode of elevator shuffling.

Oh my...

Be very careful expressing common sense opinions like that around here. There are many people who love to think of themselves as inclusive, can't-we-all-get-along types who are wonderfully tolerant....of their own views. But go too far astray by wondering aloud if the VP is the best place for a 50 laffer and the tolerance goes out the window.

Your post was a breath of fresh air...just be ready for the hissy fits from the self annointed PC police with their shorts in a wad.

[Mildew McBumble]

Don't worry, once Cashbot HQ opens up the only toons who will be remotely interested in Sellbot HQ will be 50-70 laff toons, everyone else will flock to Cashbot HQ. Once the four HQ's open up, then the laff levels for each HQ will probably become more apparent, with the biggest toons working in Lawbot and Bossbot HQ.

[Sally Kat]

You 60 and below laffers are tough these days.
I was so humble back then Lol...and I refused ( against my hubby's urging) to go in before I was at least 90 laff and level 6 on all gags ( except that darn trap I picked).
So I'm speaking true of my own feelings, all these mid laffers are darn brave.
And sorry, if we were low on toonup, I would feel bad not having the juggling balls...
You can take on some serious damage in there and I would feel terrible if a toon went sad because I wasn't strong enough to help them out.

[UMT]

Originally Posted by Yellow Horse

Oh my...

Be very careful expressing common sense opinions like that around here. There are many people who love to think of themselves as inclusive, can't-we-all-get-along types who are wonderfully tolerant....of their own views. But go too far astray by wondering aloud if the VP is the best place for a 50 laffer and the tolerance goes out the window.

Your post was a breath of fresh air...just be ready for the hissy fits from the self annointed PC police with their shorts in a wad.

YH, after you have been playing for awhile, you'll probably relax a little like many of us have. I can understand your beef with mid laffers. Your one of the many need all big toons because your gags are less than great.

This post was about toons with gags far greater than there laff level, not just any old mid laffer.

I guess I can put myself in the PC police section. That's alot better than the ball baby "I'll only play with a select few" section.

Maybe one day you'll get good enough to move over to our section

YH, I saw you removed your less than great stats. Here's a pic of my mid laffers gags. He'd walk all over your 100+