Scott and Szlin Peaches n Cream turn 40 today! RE: battle behavior (split thread)

[WizardHawk]

Sounds like a lot of people have issues with peaches and scott but much is being made out of one bad round. And unless I missed something, everyone made it out alive in that run so what is the ******** big deal?

We all pay for our accounts and we all have the right to play however we wish. This EXACT point has been stated by loosy and others when it suits them, now that it is someone they don't like the story changes.

Let's make this simple folks: If you really don't like what peaches/scott do or have done, write their names down on paper and avoid them from now on. SIMPLE, just play with others you do like. I have played with 100+ toons that were as lame as you can get and mid level toons that played well and were fun to be with. I have done MANY vp runs with both scott and peaches and never have I seen them attack anyone or sit by and let everyone else do the work.

We have done runs with only 4 or 5 going in and tried other ways to make it more interesting since it is so bloody boring and easy as it stands. My way is to try and jump on with mostly cc's and lower toons for the challenge, others have their way of making it more fun. I may not agree with every way you all play, but you are free to do it. This isn't a 'team' game per say and you don't have to be a team player in order to play. I have had toons try and kill me in the VP and other areas and it was quite a rush to thwart their efforts and come out alive.

You are all making a big deal out of 'dying'. First of all, you can't 'die' in this game, you go sad. And when you do you are out a few beans and possibly some parts if it is in the VP. SO WHAT! You get killed in other online games and it can take a day or more to regain your lost experience and items. Why is everyone so afraid of going sad?

I don't attack other toons and peaches knows I probably wouldn't be involved in such a thing if I was with her. It isn't my style of play but I will not tell her how to play and if it was any of my friends that got a lesson from her, I'd tell them to never play with her again if they don't like her.

It really is that simple people, just have fun with your friends and don't play with people you don't like.

[Bunny Summers]

This EXACT point has been stated by loosy and others when it suits them, now that it is someone they don't like the story changes.

Not true. Loosy (as well as myself) have always maintained that everyone has a right to play the way they want. Nobody ever said they AGREED or even LIKED with the way these people played, just that they have a right to play that way. Nobody is suggesting that nor do they suggest that they HAVE to play with anyone else. They are more than welcome to go in alone if they so choose. But the fact is...at least my point was...they didn't go in alone. They could've left the 3 other toons alone & gone to another district, but they didn't. If you're going to play with strangers you SHOULD be flexible to change your strategy a little, even if that meant doing a "boring" run. If you don't, well...you see the result. If anyone's ok with the outcome, then even more power to them, I say.

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

We all pay for our accounts and we all have the right to play however we wish. This EXACT point has been stated by loosy and others when it suits them, now that it is someone they don't like the story changes.

Much of your post is riddled with implication but I'll address this one. My reply
was in regard to who I tend to believe, based on both party's accounts
HERE, on this thread. I read Szlin's account here, and I read Tornado's
account here, and I have a pretty good idea about Tornado's character in
the game. Both stories lined up nicely with each other, and since I tend to
believe Tornado, well that's that.

Szlin, even after I admitted to not being there and therefore not being
qualified to discuss the specifics, tried to use that in an attempt to disqualify
what I posted which was based on what I read HERE. That's weak.

Further, I didn't say what toons could or could not do. Others may have. Szlin
replied to me as if I objected to her freedom to enjoy the game the way she
saw fit and she's wrong in that aspect as well.

There are far too many who have posted about negative experiences with
Szlin and scott to be ignored. Again, if they choose to play in a way that
generates this kind of heat then more power to them. Perhaps the
ramifications don't matter to them either, but to suggest that discussing this
with them is to limit their freedom in the game is absurd in the extreme.

[WizardHawk]

Bunny, we all take risks when we jump onto elevators with others we don't know. It has always been this way in buildings but is even more pronounced in the VP. I don't assume that others are willing to change their plans for me. For example, I am stuck doing short runs when I need merits or long when I am only on parts when I have to go with strangers because none of my friends are on. I don't ask them to change and will only suggest which way I need if they ask, after all I am jumping on with their group.


I will ask if some stranger jumps on, but I try and let them know up front which way we are working.



Loosy, once again I seem to have fluffed your dander a bit and didn't really intend to do so.

"Much of your post is riddled with implication"
almost every single word in it was directed at those who have attacked peaches in this thread, of which you are not one.

"Further, I didn't say what toons could or could not do."
You are right and that was what I was talking about. When these situations come up, its been my experience that you make a point of saying that you may not agree, but applaud others for playing their way. Your tag line is: "no one can tell you what toontown is....You have to play it for yourself!" but in this case, you keyed on which side of what story you believe in and left out that part, even though most of this thread has been devoted to others telling peaches/scott how they should play. I just think your omission in this case was a statement of sorts. I do not wish to get into a battle about it I was just stating the stance that you normally would have made in other cases. You see, I agree with your normal position on this! Sorry if I seemed like I was on the attack myself.

I think I made it clear, I don't play the way they do, but I believe they have the right to play whatever way they see fit and everyone else is free to just not play with them.



Oh and since I forgot to say it:
Congrats peaches/scott on 40! I know you two have worked very hard to get there. Now, do you have the stamina to push on to 50? lol
(edited: my post double spaced for some reason, extra line breaks removed)

[Bunny Summers]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

I don't assume that others are willing to change their plans for me. For example, I am stuck doing short runs when I need merits or long when I am only on parts when I have to go with strangers because none of my friends are on. I don't ask them to change and will only suggest which way I need if they ask, after all I am jumping on with their group.

No, I'm talking about you (a non-specific you) changing your plans according to them. Not expecting anyone else to change their plan for you.

For example, if I have a sound gag I want to level up and someone else wants to use only trap. If I've got lure, I will try to accommodate that person because he/she is not my friend. He/she won't understand that I want to work my sound gag nor am I the type of person that will make or suggest to a person which gag they should or shouldn't use barring the fact that we are, say, in front of a level 11 cog with half our laff points filled. Then I may suggest using toon up or passing or NOT using something like sound while I lure them or I may suggest them luring so I can toon them up. So instead of working a gag that I want to work, I will be flexible enough to help that toon out. If I'm in a building with someone else, whether they are invited or not, the fact that I am not alone nor with friends means that sometimes I have to change what I would NORMALLY do, even if it doesn't benefit me. That benefits the whole team. Now, if it falls into place where, say, I'm working lure & a stranger is working trap then great!!! Same with people who are working solely sound and I know their sound will not kill the cogs in front of us. I would say "I think you should choose sound." "No" If they still chose sound after that I have the option of getting mad at them & continuing to do what I would normally do (lure the cogs & then toon) which would essentially be ineffective (a wasted gag) or I could choose to work WITH them & use a sound gag, trying to kill as many cogs as I could to avoid potential damage. Yes, it's frustrating when things don't go according to plan, but they seldom do when playing with a diverse bunch of people who don't speaka da same language (i.e. Speedchat vs. secret Chat).

So, while I can sympathize with Peaches because I get very annoyed with bossy toons & have sent them back to the playground, I don't agree the lesson should've been taught at the expense of the other toons that were in there. And no, apparently not everyone made it out of the VP battle because of this. From what I've read a couple of toons went sad.

[Loosy Goosy]

All these posts coming from people BELONG here. Since Szlin started this thread
as a celebration of her accomplishment, it seems appropos that people share
their common experiences with her, right?

You reap what you sow, and I'm sure that if anyone else were to start such a
thread, folks would post their experiences with that toon as well, although I'm
fairly confident it wouldn't be this negative. Folks who don't even know each
other are posting details that couldn't be made up on the fly, which to me
depicts a pattern seemingly impossible to ignore.

[CoolMelody Dandyseed]

One of my friends has a "Hiss list" just toons that we will not play with, under any circumstances!!

Szlin is at the top of this list!!! she is unkind, inflexible and just outright awful!!!

I think she needs to be knocked down a peg or two!

She seems to think she's at the top of the pecking order!

So, the fact that she spends aaaaallllllll her free time playing Toontown means she's someone to be admired and looked up to???

I think not!!!

But i agree with one of the other posts, just don't play with her... that level 50 Holly will take a **** of a lot longer for her to get, she NEEDS other people to get her there!!

[CBD]

Bah, this is why I don't take part in these threads anymore

Neither side will ever feel like they've 'won', and will continue to say 'Well xtoon did that to ytoon, so HA! not that I'm accusing people here of having done that , and it'll keep on going, and going and going...

Anyho, gonna split this thread. I don't see how what we're going on right now involves Szlin Peaches getting to lv40 on her Mr. Hollywood :-)

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by CBD

Anyho, gonna split this thread. I don't see how what we're going on right now involves Szlin Peaches getting to lv40 on her Mr. Hollywood :-)

Because the battle in question was the one that got her to 40 for one. For two,
what better way to celebrate her accomplishments then by memorializing how
she got there? CBD you came through again lol.

[fluffy tomahawk]

Originally Posted by CoolMelody Dandyseed

"DO AS YOUR TOLD" ??????

Hello this is not school!!!! i refuse to "do as i'm told!"

I don't care if scott and szlin are 1000 level holly's! they are not the boss of toon town!!!!!

Toon town is a team game, not follow the bloody leader, or go sad!!!!

well what I said did not come out the way I wanted it too I meant DONT MESS UP AND BLOW THE V.P!!!

fluffy tomahawk 105 laff maxed everything no trap 42/50 species needs devil ray all-star old king baby piano tuna cresant full ??? moon fish and grizzly level 19 hollywood AND FRIENDS WITH SZLIN AND SCOTT.

[fluffy tomahawk]

Originally Posted by WizardHawk

Sounds like a lot of people have issues with peaches and scott but much is being made out of one bad round. And unless I missed something, everyone made it out alive in that run so what is the ******** big deal?

We all pay for our accounts and we all have the right to play however we wish. This EXACT point has been stated by loosy and others when it suits them, now that it is someone they don't like the story changes.

Let's make this simple folks: If you really don't like what peaches/scott do or have done, write their names down on paper and avoid them from now on. SIMPLE, just play with others you do like. I have played with 100+ toons that were as lame as you can get and mid level toons that played well and were fun to be with. I have done MANY vp runs with both scott and peaches and never have I seen them attack anyone or sit by and let everyone else do the work.

We have done runs with only 4 or 5 going in and tried other ways to make it more interesting since it is so bloody boring and easy as it stands. My way is to try and jump on with mostly cc's and lower toons for the challenge, others have their way of making it more fun. I may not agree with every way you all play, but you are free to do it. This isn't a 'team' game per say and you don't have to be a team player in order to play. I have had toons try and kill me in the VP and other areas and it was quite a rush to thwart their efforts and come out alive.

You are all making a big deal out of 'dying'. First of all, you can't 'die' in this game, you go sad. And when you do you are out a few beans and possibly some parts if it is in the VP. SO WHAT! You get killed in other online games and it can take a day or more to regain your lost experience and items. Why is everyone so afraid of going sad?

I don't attack other toons and peaches knows I probably wouldn't be involved in such a thing if I was with her. It isn't my style of play but I will not tell her how to play and if it was any of my friends that got a lesson from her, I'd tell them to never play with her again if they don't like her.

It really is that simple people, just have fun with your friends and don't play with people you don't like.

Yep they all are jelous of them its obvisous they are not mean no matter what you say they just dont like noobs they should be in toontown central anyway..

fluffy tomahawk 105 laff maxed everything no trap 42/50 species needs devil ray all-star old king baby piano tuna cresant full ??? moon fish and grizzly level 19 hollywood AND FRIENDS WITH SZLIN AND SCOTT.

[CBD]

Originally Posted by Loosy Goosy

Because the battle in question was the one that got her to 40 for one. For two,
what better way to celebrate her accomplishments then by memorializing how
she got there? CBD you came through again lol.

But the OP was about her going to get 40, not that she had yet

Just a note to announce the upcoming battle around noon Pacific Time today...Scott and Szlin will be 40! What a team we make! ;-)

Peaches

[Loosy Goosy]

Originally Posted by fluffy tomahawk

Yep they all are jelous of them its obvisous they are not mean no matter what you say they just dont like noobs they should be in toontown central anyway..

fluffy tomahawk 105 laff maxed everything no trap 42/50 species needs devil ray all-star old king baby piano tuna cresant full ??? moon fish and grizzly level 19 hollywood AND FRIENDS WITH SZLIN AND SCOTT.

I know Tornado's not the jealous type, but he's 107 anyway. And being a 108
myself I'm not sure what there is to be jealous about hehe

[CoolMelody Dandyseed]

Jealous??? don't make me laugh? jealous of what exactly??

That she is a level 40 Hollywood?? jeez who cares! maybe she should get a hobby, she seems to have sooo much time on her hands!

[gabardine]

This is sooo rich!

Out of the mouths of babes--literally!

2 of her 'biggest supporters' here shed the greatest light on what appears to be general game play for the new level40 toon, and substantiate the large amount of personal experiences many toons have posted here, myself included. Sadly, from their profiles, they are both children. That is my greatest disappointment in Peaches exercising her 'right' to enjoy the game as she feels fit. Entranced by the size of her cog suit these kids look up to her and emulate her behavior. You may say 'it's only a game' but in both real life and games I for one do not want my kids looking up to or copying a 'role model' such as this.

And Wizardhawk how in good conscience can you have posted what you have here? We both know who got kicked to the curb, and you know personally firsthand from Peaches the accounts of her griefing other toons and how frequently she does this and how much she enjoys doing that! (which is sooo in opposition to your character and game play- for you are a great team player and a great 'role model' for these kids to emulate unlike the ones you have congratulated)