Win Faster with all toons using Seltzer?

[Danny]

Honestly, I don't care which strategy is used. Either way works for me, as long as no one goes sad, and we win. I've won 29/30 CEO's(The one I lost was due to a bug, so I wouldn't even consider it a loss. I pressed "x" to jump off of the table, and it didn't let me jump off, so he ran me over, and I somehow lost 57 laff points from that..). Anyway, I've done it every way possible; with 4 golfers, with all seltzer, with 4 toon's just standing by the conveyor belts the whole time, waiting for toon-up(Don't prefer this one ). Every way works.

I do prefer everyone to seltzer, if I'm with a group of experienced toon's. Yesterday I did two all seltzer CEO's and each took 10 minutes or less; one even took 6-7 minutes.

[Summer Solstice]

Very well said, I agree. I don't really care what method people do I just prefer golfless. Seems to be the quickest, easiest, and most fun for me.

I dont really pay that much attention to how many are golfing/seltzering as I always seltzer and just go with that. I do however notice once I start getting bored that we have one or two toons on golf. I realize one ot two golfing is not the proper way to golf from reading everyones posts and those seem to take the longest.

In a golfless it seems to be fast and fun and over quickly. Maybe it is just more exciting to me as there is more to do etc.

I do agree that either way works and there really is no right or wrong way. Just personal preference.

[Cool Clyde Fizzleteeth]

The way I see it, Golfless should be used in CEOs where there are experienced toons and Golfing should be done where the toons aren't that good at dodging. (just my )

[Prof. Whiskerjinks]

Originally Posted by Midnite Purr

That has been my experience. The last 2 CEOs I have been in, no one used the golf tee and won a lot faster and we didn't need any unites. We also didn't let the snacks fall. At first I thought it was because we were all really low suits (like the battle was just easier for us) but the second time, we had mixed suits. We won before the CEO destroyed a conveyor belt.

When I have been in CEOs with a mix of toons golfing and squirting, people have used unites and the battle has been long enough that the CEO needs to "regroup" or whatever he says and destroys a conveyor belt.

Is this a general pattern? I'm also wondering if the CEO is easier in open than it is in test.

FINALLY, someone agrees Golfing doesn't help...

lol, I did one with everyone Seltzering...

He got to orange in First 5 mins, red after 10 mins...

Than 3 ppl got badly hurt, and did Golfing...

than, oddly, it took longer, and 30 mins. to die...

I bet Seltzering helps way more!

[Light Blue Rabbit]

Originally Posted by Lady_Trixie

I have to disagree, the golfless CEO I did was the fastest I have experienced and I came out with the most laff I have ever had (we had 7, 1 discoed in the banquet).....it was almost easy....also it was way less chaotic...then again having good toons with you helps immensely, many randoms I have been in only 3-4 toons actually do anything to help advance the battle, while the rest seem to sit on the conveyor, having 8 toons actually helping is a big plus....lol

I think that is the key, having 8/8 toons participate.
Too many groups I have been in, I seem to always notice 2-3 toons hanging back and/or leaving early.

Everyone should stay and fight. Do not leave unless you are down to under 15 laff and you are going to go sad anyway.

[jacknstory]

hi

golfing in the ceo is a waste of time...

the more toons that are squirting the better...

[McBee]

For those that think golfing does nothing, consider this:

I did three experimental CEO's today (not including the one I mentioned above with Summer Solstice). One with full golfing, one with partial golfing, one without golfing.

First was golfing. Went with randoms. Seltzer round was 12 minutes from start to finish. He yelled "Fore!" 6 times. That's an average of once every two minutes. 8/8 danced. Easy, easy run.

Second was golfing till he was pink and toons kept him pink. Went with a mix of randoms and friends. Seltzer round was 18 minutes. He yelled "Fore!" 25 times. That's an average of 1.3 (rounded to 1) per minute. 7/8 danced. Owooo..

Third was golfless. Went with a mix of friends and randoms. Seltzer round was 11 minutes from start to finish. He yelled "Fore!" 21 times. That's an average of 2 per minute. 8/8 danced. Fun run.

So today meant:

Red treads, fully golfed- Average of 1 "Fore!" every 120 seconds.

Pink treads, somewhat golfed- Average of 1 "Fore!" every 60 seconds.

Grey treads, golfless- Average of 1 "Fore's!" every 30 seconds.

Kinda looks like a trend.. He had 1/4 the "Fore!" attacks in a fully golfed CEO than a golfless. That's 3/4 less dodging "Fore!" attacks. Dodging attacks may be easy for most of us, but for those learning golfing may be a key to their survival.

[Princess Lily Twinkletoes]

I was with McBee on golfless run. I took quite a few hits, and I know what I am doing. IMO, golfless wasn't bad, but there should be an agreement at the beginning that noone will golf (this means that you have to be with friends). It was more of a challenge this way. However, with randoms I think there should be 3-4 toons golfing at first, to turn the treads red. Then back down to 2 toons golfing, everyone else on bottles. This way he is slower and bottles can have more time to charge. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck and have fun however you chose to CEO!

[Danny]

Originally Posted by jacknstory

hi

golfing in the ceo is a waste of time...

the more toons that are squirting the better...

Golfing isn't a waste of time. It can be very helpful a lot of times. If you're with a few in-experienced toon's having 3-4 golfers is a good idea. The slower you keep him, the less people will get hit and have to run for toon-ups. If you have 8 toon's and 4 are new or atleast fairly new to the CEO, having no one golf will basically result in only having 4-5 people using the seltzer bottle's anyway, because people are gonna be going for toon-ups constantly.

[Dee Clawed]

I did 2 CEO's with McBee today and I to thought golfing was pretty useless until she showed me different. We went in with out golfing on the first run I did with her, and it was very fun and it went by pretty smoothly, but the CEO I did tonight with her where there were golfers, I noticed a difference in how slow he moves which meant less time wasting jumping off the tables when you could be refiling your bottles. I never noticed the his treds getting red before until she pointed it out to me, and I also never knew how to really golf until she explained it to me about the poof of smoke being the same color of the ball you hit him with. So I have to say I think golfing helps out quite a bit, but I would do a golfless one again anytime just for some fun! And just want to say thank you again McBee for all your advice and for all the fun!

[Midnite Purr]

It makes a huge difference who you are with. I did a golfless tonight with toons that I know, and it was very fast. We didn't even have a full load of toons. It was quite possibly my best one yet.

Later, I did an 8 toon CEO (2 were friends, rest randoms), 3 toons golfed the whole time. The treads were pinkish-red, he never slowed down and it took forever. There were at least 4 unites used. I think it is a matter of good players vs. poor players.

[-SkinnyBiscuit-]

Golfing just makes everything slower, golfless is really a lot easier, because it doesnt take as long and people know what they are doing instead of wandering around all of the place.

[princessglitter]

Originally Posted by McBee

We went in with 6 toons to a golfless CEO. He was red after 9 minutes of seltzering and was finished off after 13 min. Pretty fast. Had we a couple more toons it'd have been even faster. The fastest golfing CEO I've done was 14 minutes.

However, that golfless had all experienced, talented toons. Nobody got near dying and everyone could avoid the attacks pretty well. We got mostly hits of 4 and 6. You don't see that every day in random runs.

Wow don't I feel special now. I was one of the very lucky toons to be included in this experiment although I am not that experienced. In fact it was only my second CEO win. Thanks for the compliment. LOL!

After a few failed attempts in the beginning my first win was a golfless CEO. I have to say golfless seems to be more organized. Everybody is doing the same thing and is focused. In the mixed battles you often find people running around not knowing what to do. My golfless CEO also happened to be with mostly randoms (only 1 friend with me) and it was really great.

I think once you learn to avoid fore golfless is really fun. I personally prefer it because I feel everybody focuses better, I did another random one today and it really goes smoothly. I do understand why some people like to golf and I say to each his own. As with everything in TT there is not one perfect answer. Play the way you feel most comfortable and have fun!

[Scooter Wondertoon]

I've gone in the CEO with and without golfing, and I think golfing properly done definitely helps, although not necessary to win.

It's been said here in different ways and I agree that the manner in which the battle is fought should depend on the players' experience level and/or by agreement of the players. I've never done an intentional stunless CJ, but I'd compare a golfless CEO to a stunless CJ as I think McBee did earlier.

I've been doing CEO's in River, with and without friends, and I'm noticing that some players are starting to use speedchat to direct everyone to use seltzer bottles even with what appear to be first-timers in the group. We've won those battles, but it's been in those (after I'm finally starting to be able to handle that bug that freezes you on the table) that I've lost the most laff and I'm noticing the other players getting hit more often than not.

[Sweet Mischief]

I have won both ways and the easiest CEO i have ever done was in no golf tees used, I have to agree I don't find a point in using them sure they slow the CEO down, but he isn't that fast to begin with?