Walk a mile in a high toon's shoes....

[Jalia]

I have also seen 2 102 throw different traps at the same cog.

Well, that's not hard to do... once. If it happens multiple times then someone's really not being careful or paying attention.

But I play with Harmony & Faith a lot. They both trap. They're sitting in the same room together as they play... computers are close enough that one of them can play both toons (as they sometimes do) and STILL they will once in a while toss traps at the same cog. ^_^

Then there's the time Harmony was playing both toons, was really tired, and tossed two traps at the same cog all by himself... hehe.

[Lady Slippy Wondercrump]

Originally posted by DutchAmerica
You should be careful not to group ALL the lower laffers as being new and inexperienced. There are a lot of 'noobies' or lower laffers that are toons of players that have already maxxed a few characters already.

Very very very true. But this thread wasn't created nor directed at them.

[WizardHawk]

This wasn't made as an 'us against them' type of thread. If you read the intented audience (somewhere in that novel it states lowbies who are working on their first toon!) and this is not a thread about dumb gag selections (either high, or low).

This thread has a very narrow topic: help NEW low/med toons understand why SOME of the higher toons ignore them, or do what appear to be mean things. That is it. This is a place to sound off about all of the things that SOME lower toons do over and over that want to drive you up a wall. That is not to say that higher toons cannot drive you crazy, nor that all lower toons do.

I can say that there is hardly a day that goes by where one or more of these things doesn't happen to me. I can see how over time they can make some of the maxed toons forget about what it was like. I can see where some will get to be so angry by it as to treat ALL lower toons alike and be really nasty to them. I do not condone this kind of activity, but it may help some to understand how/why these mean 'ol high toons became that way.

Thank you for your input to this thread.
Remember: It's just a game people! Have fun!

[Poppy! the cat]

i also keep my accepting new friends turned off so that least ppl must ask out loud to be a friend. sad but i have to open up my schticker book first thing when i go online to turn it off otherwise i find i get bombarded right away. for those persistent enough to ask i just say "sorry i cant" then "you are awesome" (to try and let them know its nothing against them). most toons have said thanks or no you are awesome but dont bug me anymore. for those "you stinks" i get, i always reply with a sweet "thanks!" ... i even get many of them to laugh or say "anytime".
Margo

[DutchAmerica]

Well, excuse me for changing the subject. I was pointing out that even high laffer sometimes don't know what they are doing.

You should walk once more in a low laffers shoes. I stinks that high laffers think they know it all.

I have several toons I play and they very from low, med and high laff points.

When you go into a building in Donald's dock and you are working on getting your squirt up, you and your friends all choose squirt on a level 4 cog and the 101 decides to whips out wedding cake and destroys the cog before anyone is able to do anything. I say that's showing off and over kill definitely.

[Lady Bumblebee]

i do agree sometimes a big toon will do that in toontown central(i too have another toon 54lp) but ive seen lower toons do that to each other. that has nothing to do with the point that is trying to be made here. It comes down to consideration for lower toons to bigger toons and bigger toons to smaller toons. To understand we all have tasks that we are working on and sometimes the smaller toons will not be able to help bigger toons and vice-versa. If we would all just take this game alittle more for what it is worth... This is suppose to be fun. For all... not just big and not just small.

[WizardHawk]

After I first put this article up today, I decided to go fishing. I need both of the rare nurse sharks so I went to DG to look for one of them. There I was, minding my own business working on some fish when a 15 came up to someone across from me and started in with the 'please be my friend' thing. The other person (candy somethingorother) pretty much just ignored it and said 'Sorry I need jelly beans' or something to that effect. The 15 started the 'you stink' and other angry stuff still standing the middle of the pond (hard to fish with such distractions). I said 'don't be mean' and the 15 turned to me with a 'huh?' and then started in with stinkies on me. They then stopped for a moment and started in with please be my friend! As if I need a pushy little 15 on my list. There is a hole that only an angry newbie could fill. I said 'sorry, I can't' and goodluck, have a nice day and just about every nice thing I could..... Didn't help at all. I got attacked in ernest by this individual. Two toons PM'ed me with 'Yikes!' (one was candy whatever) as it even startled them. And you wonder why high toons are reluctant to even talk to lower toons to say have a good day or how are you doing? I hate the fact that you cannot be nice to a lowbie without them assuming this means you want them on your list and that you are sending mixed signals if you say no to their request. This leaves us in the position where we almost HAVE to ignore them so as not to start up something.

I was also in a building with a lower toon and had the old communication problem. For you newer toons, it is easier for us if we are trying to help you in a building if you select a gag fast each round. If it is the wrong gag, we can say no, or let's use whatever. If we can work with it, we will choose something that works. When you wait to see what we pick, we have to trust that you will not make a huge mistake or even worse, we wait to see what you will do and have to just make a last second choice that comes up at the same time as you. We can avoid these situations if you just make a choice as fast as you can, while there is still time to change it if needed. BTW, I also went into another building with an even lower toon (7 years old, no sf) that is only high 20's and she did fine. I hate being bossy so I don't like to say what we need to use every round. I also want to let the lower toons work on whatever they think they need so just pick it! Don't wait until 2 seconds left to make a choice!

OK, there....I feel much better now!

/rant off (hee hee)

[Lady Slippy Wondercrump]

Originally posted by DutchAmerica
Well, excuse me for changing the subject. I was pointing out that even high laffer sometimes don't know what they are doing.

You should walk once more in a low laffers shoes. I stinks that high laffers think they know it all.

I have several toons I play and they very from low, med and high laff points.

When you go into a building in Donald's dock and you are working on getting your squirt up, you and your friends all choose squirt on a level 4 cog and the 101 decides to whips out wedding cake and destroys the cog before anyone is able to do anything. I say that's showing off and over kill definitely.

It is true that there are high laffers who behave that way. A high laffer does not indicate maturity. You have no idea who it is behind the toon. I have seen my son take advantage of the fact that I didn't exit the game fully, and log on my 100 laffer have her doing dumb things, he is 3. So now, what if my 7 yr old took advantage of that. Well she is gonna go and use the cool gags not the ones she has. Mind, you she wouldn't dare do that without asking...now what if I decided to share my toon? I would sit there with her but not all parents do that. Or maybe a kid made that toon that big on their own. It is possible, very possible. So don't think that the high laffer is a grown up. It could be a very immature kid (or rather a kid being a kid)

These toons we see saying "you stink" in TTC pg, are gonna get bigger..perhaps you are running into them.

I think we have beaten this horse dead. SOME, not all, low laffers are rude and bothersome and SOME, not all, high laffers are the same. I just log out and go to test and everything's all better LOL not fair I know...im just having fun now. LOL

[WizardHawk]

Originally posted by DutchAmerica
Well, excuse me for changing the subject. I was pointing out that even high laffer sometimes don't know what they are doing.

You should walk once more in a low laffers shoes. I stinks that high laffers think they know it all.

I have several toons I play and they very from low, med and high laff points.

When you go into a building in Donald's dock and you are working on getting your squirt up, you and your friends all choose squirt on a level 4 cog and the 101 decides to whips out wedding cake and destroys the cog before anyone is able to do anything. I say that's showing off and over kill definitely.

I didn't single you out in that post, nor make an attempt to attack you in any way for your views. I will thank you for returning the same level of respect. Too often on forums (I post on several and have for many years) the last post has nothing to do with the subject of the thread. It is not easy for people to follow tangents off in other directions. I just wanted to make this a simple thread with some insite for the newer toon. No insults intended toward anyone. As I have said MANY times now, I help lower toons all the time. I help them in the streets when they are in over their heads, and help them in buildings. I do not over gag or use high sound or throw when they are using squirt nor does any of that have anything to do with the topic at hand. If you find this type of thing to be a problem and feel the need to talk about it, by all means start your own thread on that subject. I feel that my topic is timely right now because of all of the fighting going on over whether or not to take lower toons to the factory and or HQ.

"You should walk once more in a low laffers shoes. I stinks that high laffers think they know it all.
"
I walked in those shoes once, the point is that there are many in the game that have never walked in our shoes... please keep up with the topic at hand. I do not think that I know it all, in fact I learn new things all the time and love to share them with anyone that wants to learn. I have taken on several toons that were quite a bit lower than me, taken them into areas well above them and helped teach them the ropes of the game. At least a couple of them post here, perhaps they will support my claim.

You are being a part of the problem, not a part of the solution with blanket statements like that. I am no better than anyone else in the game, BUT I have a lot more experience then anyone who is a new player on their first toon that is under 100.

Now please, stop hijacking this thread. I hope you find better toons to play with and threads that are more to your taste. Happy Tooning!

[DutchAmerica]

How do YOU know who is really a new toon? That could be a person's 3rd or 4th toon. They could already have a bunch of maxxed toons in their stable already.

I was always told to not judge a book by its cover. Just because a noobie is running down the sidewalk at the Brrr, doesn't mean he's there to do battle. He might be there to catch fish to up his laff points.

As far as the wanting to be friends gambit, high laffers don't have the only dibs on that one. Once you get to about 50, or heaven forbid if you get a star over your head. They all start hounding you too.

As far as this thread is concerned, I believe most of the comments have been along the lines of your originial statement except for a couple that got off on luring for a moment.

You have to understand, that when you post a comment, you should expect to get feed back and not everyone is going to pat you on the back and agree with you.

[SneeziePacker]

I'm a 54 laffer toon with my first toon.

I have to say that at first I, too, was guilty of trying to make friends with every high level toon I happened to run across. They were just so novel and all-powerful - I was in awe! I'd seen tons and tons of 15-16-17 laffers and then a 101 laffer helped me out in a street fight and I was fascinated. I didn't, however, get rude about it - just made the request and went on with life when it wasn't accepted.

Online is kind of like being behind the wheel of a car - some people do things in this "anonymous" situation that they'd probably not do in real life.

Anyway, with that off my chest, I want to thank all of you that have posted on this thread. I've learned lots of strategy tips in these various posts about what to do and what not to do that I hadn't yet figured out on my own! I'll keep surfin this site to learn more. This is a great game!

Sniffy Nickelwhip

[Lady Slippy Wondercrump]

Originally posted by SneeziePacker
I'm a 54 laffer toon with my first toon.

Anyway, with that off my chest, I want to thank all of you that have posted on this thread. I've learned lots of strategy tips in these various posts about what to do and what not to do that I hadn't yet figured out on my own! I'll keep surfin this site to learn more. This is a great game!

Sniffy Nickelwhip

Man, im so angry right now. Know why? Cause when I found this place I learned soooo much, I was a better toon cause of this site. This is why I continue to support it in anyway I can, advertising, donations....

SneeziePacker basically made me realize that, lately all we have been doing here is whining and complaining. How useful have we been? They were reading this thread that turned into a whinefest, but somehow he managed to find the useful stuff in this thread.

We seem to have forgetton the original intentions of this site, to get to know other toons, the ppl behind the toons, to learn new strategy, to talk about the game. Yeah that means our likes and consequently our dislikes, but geez, just going thru the posts lately...way too much negativity. There are some good threads around, talking about fishing, task schedules, when to pass, etc...I think we need more of those threads and less rants. What do the rants do? They just bring negative side in all of us, a negative post gives negative results.

Just think about it. I hope that you get a lot more out of this site SneeziePacker than just stuff like how one level of toon is upset with this level of toon, etc...

Good luck

[DutchAmerica]

You are sounding really angry. I think the whole problem has gotten really bad since the hqtrs has been released. So many tempers flairing and bad behavior. I think that it has shown a HUGE 'generation' gap between the different level toons.

It's one of those, you don't understand and you don't either things. Disney should have anticipated this and placed some restrictions or assigned specific tasks in order to go to the vp battle. That way higher laff toons would know that the others that were in the lobby had really earned their way there and not just got a free ride in the factory.

Did I put that alright?

However, I think there are still alot of great and funny threads out there too.

[Lady Slippy Wondercrump]

LOL Sorry i said I was so angry, but I really wasn't, an exaggeration on my part. I was just really trying to drive my point home.

[WizardHawk]

Originally posted by DutchAmerica
How do YOU know who is really a new toon? That could be a person's 3rd or 4th toon. They could already have a bunch of maxxed toons in their stable already.

I was always told to not judge a book by its cover. Just because a noobie is running down the sidewalk at the Brrr, doesn't mean he's there to do battle. He might be there to catch fish to up his laff points.

As far as the wanting to be friends gambit, high laffers don't have the only dibs on that one. Once you get to about 50, or heaven forbid if you get a star over your head. They all start hounding you too.

As far as this thread is concerned, I believe most of the comments have been along the lines of your originial statement except for a couple that got off on luring for a moment.

You have to understand, that when you post a comment, you should expect to get feed back and not everyone is going to pat you on the back and agree with you.

Once again you fail to understand the point.

"How do YOU know who is really a new toon? That could be a person's 3rd or 4th toon. They could already have a bunch of maxxed toons in their stable already."

you keep harping on this over and over and over and over and over again. The purpose of this post was to give some insight into why SOME high toons are standoffish toward the majority of lower toons. Period. The intentions of the thread were clearly spelled out at the start. This is not a 'rag on the little guy' thread, nor a 'here is why little people ****'. It isn't intended to be written as 'whinnig', it is just to help ONLY those low toons who are on their first toon and confused about why SOME high toons ignore, are rude, or even try to do mean things to those below them. Your point is backwards from this thread. How are toons who get attacked almost daily from little toons supposed to know who is a second or third tooner or first toons that are not going to be disrespectful? That is more to the point of this thread.

I have been warned both in game, and in PM's here after your first post that your only purpose here is to argue and disagree with anyone/anything. I don't mind someone playing devils advocate or challanging someone to think a thought through farther, however your posts are not on point nor on topic in the first place.

"As far as the wanting to be friends gambit, high laffers don't have the only dibs on that one. Once you get to about 50, or heaven forbid if you get a star over your head. They all start hounding you too. "

Again, you miss the point of this thread. No one is saying that only little toons do this to big toons, nor that some of what high toons go through can be felt on a more limited basis from the medium toon. This is only to help new players understand where some of the attitude in the game stems from. Do you yet understand the reason for this thread?

"You have to understand, that when you post a comment, you should expect to get feed back and not everyone is going to pat you on the back and agree with you."

I live for debate. Love a good arguement. I do not take any words written on the web personally and I ALWAYS remember that this is only a game. This is another feeble attempt for you to attack me. It is empty in substance and form. The reason there are no real negative comments on this thread, is that there are no arguements suggested in the first place. No one can deny that there are plenty of snobby, standoffish, think they are the kings, high level toons. The only statements relevant to this thread are examples of what high toons go through that new players may not be aware of. Perhaps this is why you keep attacking me in off-topic ways. You cannot find a way to attack me on topic as it isn't possible to challange the underlying theme. I'm not sure why you feel the need to only attack and not provide any helpful information that new players can use but it is growing old in a hurry. Please, go about your life in peace and share some happiness instead of hate/grief.

I really do wish you all the best and happy gaming.