Cheif Justice difficulty system misconseption.

[maxmax123]

I constantly see people stating that cj difficulty is set by the total number of suit victories.I dont know who started this rumor but its not true.

How its set is based on the mean or average number of suit victorys.

Lets say 4 big wig lvl 50s went into the cj battle alone,they would still get 10 cogs and gavels and everything else,like if there were 8 bw50s. The whole total victories myth doesnt support this.You may not believe me, but,the difficulty can shift between the cog battle and the cannon round if some toons leave.I once stayed in a cj battle alone after everyone else bailed ( there were mostly low suits i was a bw30)between the cog battle and the cannon round,then at the scale round i saw a 9th cog it the scale round before i bailed.

This is how you would find a mean of a group of numbers: g= number of toons t= total number of suit victories m=mean number of suit victories. the formula is this: m= t divided by g

I copied this from the test server released notes.

Further play balanced the Chief Justice battle. The difficulty of the Chief Justice battle is based on the average number of times a group of Toons has defeated the Chief Justice. A group of Toons fighting the Chief Justice for the first time will have an easier setting (more evidence, less gavels, less lawyers) than those who have defeated him dozens of times.

Hope this helps.
moderators please make this a sticky

[Synthrael]

Yes! This should be stickied!

[Cool Winky Doggendoodle]

The difficulty is determined when the suits enter the elevator not after the cog battle.

[maxmax123]

thats not true i went in with a group of bfs on that run i discribed.

[~Scarlet~]

If what you are saying is that if 4 BW's go with 4 BF's then the cj battle will be easier then that is correct. 8 BW's, or even 4BW's (with no other toons) will have a rough time. A good mixture of suits will give you an average cj.

This has always been the case and I have never heard anyone say anything different? Also yes this is determined when you board the elevator, not after the cog battles.

Originally Posted by maxmax123

I constantly see people stating that cj difficulty is set by the total number of suit victories.I dont know who started this rumor but its not true.

How its set is based on the mean or average number of suit victorys.

Lets say 4 big wig lvl 50s went into the cj battle,they would still get 10 cogs and gavels and everything else. The whole total victories myth doesnt support this.I once stayed in a cj battle alone after the cog battle and saw a 9th cog it the scale round before i bailed.

4 BW's alone with no smaller suits to counteract then yes would get the extra gavels and such.

[Cool Winky Doggendoodle]

I think your mistake is in thinking the 4 BW 50 (no other toons) would be any different from an 8 BW 50 battle. Remember with all it's the total number of victories / number of toons on elevator.

So what we are looking at is (using BW 50)

NOTE: It takes 77 victories to reach BW 50.

4 * 77 / 4
and
8 * 77 / 8

Well those look to me like the average will be 77.

[maxmax123]

Oops,Sorry if what i put down was misleading.The point of this thread is to tell how the difficulty system works.


PS. I put it some missing facts

[crimson dynamo]

How many CJ battles have you done?

I have done hundreds.

I have kept statistics on many of these battles.

i have done a 5 big wig run, where not all of us were BW 50s. We did NOT have enough victories to get the 9th cog, let alone the tenth cog.

If you went in with low suits and you were a BW 30, there is absolutely no way that you saw a 9th cog lawyer.

Evidence weight is based on jurors when you have 9 or more cog lawyers to battle.

Evidence toonup is based on suit victories loaded on to the elevator in the beginning.

How to determine what the evidence toonup is worth

When you hit the Witness stand to get your evidence it pops up how much evidence you can throw.

Evidence ranges are determined by the number of Suit Victories loaded into the elevator.

If 8 BW 50s go in, the victory is 8 * 77 = 616 or more. This triggers the 10th cog.

0 - 58 Victories or less = evidence of 38
59 - 134 Victories = evidence of 36
134 - 203 Victories = evidence of 34
204 - 299 Victories = evidence of 32
300 - 350 Victories = evidence of 30
300 - 359 Victories = evidence of 28
360 - 499 Victories = evidence of 26
500 - 599 Victories = evidence of 24
600 Victories or more = evidence of 22

In no way are these exact because I do not have suit victory information from 0 victories to 1000 victories.

Plus, the numbers might have changed since it was first released on open.

Evidence ranges
34 - 38 you get +1 evidence toonup
30 - 32 you get +2 evidence toonup
26 - 28 you get +3 evidence toonup
22 - 24 you get +4 evidence toonup

Number of Gavels based on Evidence Ranges
34 - 38 = 5 Gavels pounding on you
30 - 32 = 6 Gavels pounding on you
26 - 28 = 7 Gavels pounding on you
22 - 24 = 8 Gavels pounding on you

Number of Cog Lawyers based on Evidence ranges
28 - 38 = 8 Cog lawyers
24 - 26 = 9 Cog Lawyers
22 - 22 = 10 Cog Lawyers

[maxmax123]

Originally Posted by crimson dynamo

How many CJ battles have you done?

I have done hundreds.

I have kept statistics on many of these battles.

i have done a 5 big wig run, where not all of us were BW 50s. We did NOT have enough victories to get the 9th cog, let alone the tenth cog.

If you went in with low suits and you were a BW 30, there is absolutely no way that you saw a 9th cog lawyer.

Evidence weight is based on jurors when you have 9 or more cog lawyers to battle.

Evidence toonup is based on suit victories loaded on to the elevator in the beginning.

How to determine what the evidence toonup is worth

When you hit the Witness stand to get your evidence it pops up how much evidence you can throw.

Evidence ranges are determined by the number of Suit Victories loaded into the elevator.

If 8 BW 50s go in, the victory is 8 * 77 = 616 or more. This triggers the 10th cog.

0 - 58 Victories or less = evidence of 38
59 - 134 Victories = evidence of 36
134 - 203 Victories = evidence of 34
204 - 299 Victories = evidence of 32
300 - 350 Victories = evidence of 30
300 - 359 Victories = evidence of 28
360 - 499 Victories = evidence of 26
500 - 599 Victories = evidence of 24
600 Victories or more = evidence of 22

In no way are these exact because I do not have suit victory information from 0 victories to 1000 victories.

Plus, the numbers might have changed since it was first released on open.

Evidence ranges
34 - 38 you get +1 evidence toonup
30 - 32 you get +2 evidence toonup
26 - 28 you get +3 evidence toonup
22 - 24 you get +4 evidence toonup

Number of Gavels based on Evidence Ranges
34 - 38 = 5 Gavels pounding on you
30 - 32 = 6 Gavels pounding on you
26 - 28 = 7 Gavels pounding on you
22 - 24 = 8 Gavels pounding on you

Number of Cog Lawyers based on Evidence ranges
28 - 38 = 8 Cog lawyers
24 - 26 = 9 Cog Lawyers
22 - 22 = 10 Cog Lawyers

Did you read my post completly? they all bailed and i was alone.

[tundaplaya7]

Does this go for all the headquarters, or just the CJ?