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Old 12-27-2006, 03:40 PM
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Unite Probability

An intresting thing, I went from SC1 to RB50 without using any Unite. When I got to RB50, I looked at all my untites and found something very intresting... I had no 600 JB unites lol. 78 CFOs and not a single 600 JB. Which made me think, Why? What is the real chances you'll get a certan unite? Now if you look at another thread, Can you fit 100 unites of one type? His 100 Unites were 600 JB.

Anyone have any idea of how come that happened?
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Old 12-27-2006, 07:57 PM
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I find that the probable outcome of unites is completely random, kind of like fishing. You may never get a 600 jb unite, but if you keep trying, it might just come to you


Other than that, no idea why you haven't gotten one ^_^
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:07 PM
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An intresting thing, I went from SC1 to RB50 without using any Unite. When I got to RB50, I looked at all my untites and found something very intresting... I had no 600 JB unites lol. 78 CFOs and not a single 600 JB. Which made me think, Why? What is the real chances you'll get a certan unite? Now if you look at another thread, Can you fit 100 unites of one type? His 100 Unites were 600 JB.

Anyone have any idea of how come that happened?
I wish I could say that, MOST of CFO rewards that I get are either 350 jb or 600 jb unites. I DONT NEED ANY JB! LOL! I know that if Mata Hary (or however you spell her name) is wearing a Baron suit I can look forward to 600more beans or a 10 laff up. Grrrr.. and since thats about all I ever see her in ... count yourself lucky!
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:27 PM
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I wish I could say that, MOST of CFO rewards that I get are either 350 jb or 600 jb unites. I DONT NEED ANY JB! LOL! I know that if Mata Hary (or however you spell her name) is wearing a Baron suit I can look forward to 600more beans or a 10 laff up. Grrrr.. and since thats about all I ever see her in ... count yourself lucky!
True that, count yourself kinda lucky as well. I haven't gotten a TU unite in 11 CFO's. And I haven't gotten a gag up in 7. I've gotten jellybeans all the time.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:45 PM
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Same with the VP ive never got a Franz in my toon life and Ive done over 120 VPs...
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:46 PM
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I don't know about the odds of getting certain unites. I seem never to be able to get toon-up unites, but I have over 80 600jb unites. This especially stinks since Im trying to stock up on TU unites.

One of my regular CFO copanions has a theory that you can predict the Unite you are going to get based on the suit and outfit that Mata Hari is wearing. It would make sense, since the programming of the game is such that the reward is determined when the CFO loads, that is, before the cog round. Thus it seems entirely possible that something could be consistent to tip off what Unites you would get. She has about 40 documented cases now and there seems to be some pattern. However, she needs many more trials before she can say for sure.

If this is the case, however, it would make unite shopping possible.

But I do believe that the rewards are random and have the same probability for all. If they were not, we would get more 10laff TU unites than Max TU unites and more single gag unites than Gag-up ALL unites, and more 100jb than 600 jb. But this isn't the case. So I think the chances are equal.
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Old 12-30-2006, 09:08 PM
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One of my regular CFO copanions has a theory that you can predict the Unite you are going to get based on the suit and outfit that Mata Hari is wearing.
I know it's not the outfit she's wearing because in the same CFO different toons see different skirts on her.
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:43 PM
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I know it's not the outfit she's wearing because in the same CFO different toons see different skirts on her.
That's interesting...Ill have to check that out.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:33 AM
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I know it's not the outfit she's wearing because in the same CFO different toons see different skirts on her.
hmm that is interesting.....are you sure?
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:48 AM
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When I play two toons, each toon sees a totally different outfit on Mata Hairy.

I'd like to do an experiment. Going in twice, with the same suits on every toon and being in the elevator in the same exact order.

Maybe we can see a pattern

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Old 01-03-2007, 01:02 AM
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When I play two toons, each toon sees a totally different outfit on Mata Hairy.

I'd like to do an experiment. Going in twice, with the same suits on every toon and being in the elevator in the same exact order.

Maybe we can see a pattern

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It'd be easy to try that with a bunch of RB 50's.

I'll help if you need any.
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:00 AM
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It'd be easy to try that with a bunch of RB 50's.

I'll help if you need any.
i dont think you understand. we'd eed 8 robber barrons, 8 loan sharks, 8 moneybags, 8 number crunchers, 8 bean counters, 8 tightwads, 8 penny pinchers, and 8 short changes. I wonder if for each level of suit there is a different unite -- so that 8 level 1 short changes would be a max toonup, for example, and that 8 robber barron level 8s would be a 600 jb unite -- and when the group is mixed it averages out -- or perhaps each suit has a number value, and they average the groups value, and that value determines the unite?
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:44 AM
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Nooooo...

I mean have EVERYTHING THE SAME in a run.

For example, do one run with these suits (random) MB 8, RB 50, RB 21, SC 1, SC 5, LS 7, NC5, BC6. NOT ALL RB 50's.

Than do a next run. Find someway to get those EXACT suits with EXACT same LAFF in those suits, line them up in the elevator the EXACT same way they were in the first run. Have the SAME suits crane and SAME suits stun. Have ALL CRANERS be on SAME CRANE as run #1. USE ONLY SOUND IN BOTH RUNS.

Basically, having EXACT same conditions as first run.

Probably wouldn't do anything, but who knows maybe since EVERYTHING was the same, we will get the SAME unite.

Probably near impossible to gather the group up but hey, maybe it'd work

~CcE
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:03 PM
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The odds are what they are....

With regards to the odds of a particular Unite...I am at 238 VPs without a Professor Pete (I started counting when I was a Telemarketer, I believe), and at 59 CFOs without a TOW TU All....

(yes, I'm that anal about it...)

On the flip side, I'm only at 38 CJs and have had 5 invasion calls....some people haven't had a one by that leve (BW12)

So it seems to be totally random...at least with the VP, when you decided to do it and have a few good friends to do it with, you can easily SOS shop...I'm holding off on that...I want to see if I can go 500 times without a Prof. Pete....

have fun!

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Old 01-03-2007, 07:18 PM
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Nooooo...

I mean have EVERYTHING THE SAME in a run.

For example, do one run with these suits (random) MB 8, RB 50, RB 21, SC 1, SC 5, LS 7, NC5, BC6. NOT ALL RB 50's.

Than do a next run. Find someway to get those EXACT suits with EXACT same LAFF in those suits, line them up in the elevator the EXACT same way they were in the first run. Have the SAME suits crane and SAME suits stun. Have ALL CRANERS be on SAME CRANE as run #1. USE ONLY SOUND IN BOTH RUNS.

Basically, having EXACT same conditions as first run.

Probably wouldn't do anything, but who knows maybe since EVERYTHING was the same, we will get the SAME unite.

Probably near impossible to gather the group up but hey, maybe it'd work

~CcE
hmmm. since the reward is determined before even the cog round begins, i doubt the gags used, or cranes operated has anything to do with it. I also dont think it matters at all the way people line up -- the average is still the same if its still all the same suits. as for laff levels - i dont see why that'd matter too.
 

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