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Old 08-18-2006, 09:14 PM
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I'm sorry to say that happens a lot. Not only do they push you into danger, they push toons into the elevator. Just another case of people not having anything better to do. Gotta feel sorry for people like that.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:35 PM
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y didn't you press the run butten
If they were away from the computer, how can they press the run button?

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It is not okay. Toontown developers created a system that puts your toon to sleep and then signs you off if there is no activity for a certain period of time.
Who's to say that it wasn't designed like that for those who forgot to sign off? If you set it to jump while you are away, you aren't forgetting to log off, you are remembering to stay connected. I'm jumping right at this moment with another toon of mine because I'm trying to get more beans to spend. What am I supposed to do, hold the ctrl button down manually and do nothing else at all? That's ridiculous. I know I'm connected, I check back every few minutes. Even TT knows that people are jumping in the busy district. If it was that much against the rules, as has been said, then don't you think they would put a limit on how long you can jump (and not being doing anything else) before you still get disconnected? They're aware of it, and they allow it.

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I'm sorry to say that happens a lot. Not only do they push you into danger, they push toons into the elevator. Just another case of people not having anything better to do. Gotta feel sorry for people like that.
Sometimes pushing another toon into an elevator is a good thing. Do it for a factory/mint/office, and they are out of harms way and can TP out of there without the risk of going sad. I've done that. I've also pushed a toon into a store (toon HQ, gag shop, or a store on a street) to try to renew their activity if they're sleepy, or to make sure they can't be pushed onto the street.
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:30 PM
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Who's to say that it wasn't designed like that for those who forgot to sign off?
That is why it was designed like that. I am not talking about someone sitting there jumping for beans, although I do doubt that Disney anticipated beanfests as a district clogging problem. I am talking about people who just leave their pc and leave their toon jumping so they can stay in a certain district rather than signing off and signing back on. People can do whatever they choose that the programs allow. I just think it is wrong to do it. If you leave your toon jumping just to get beans and walk away for some extended time, you are not playing the game. You are taking up space that someone else could use to play. It is selfish, especially if you are aware that you walked away with your toon jumping. The developers do not seem to be very diligent about removing glitches or changing the game to prevent this type of activity; however, I seriously doubt they intend for it to happen.
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:39 PM
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It is not okay. Toontown developers created a system that puts your toon to sleep and then signs you off if there is no activity for a certain period of time. If you are glitching a jump or swim ( assumption on my part) to stay "awake" then you are certainly stepping over the boundaries of considerate behavior.
Agreed. As a matter of fact, another game I play will suspend you for "over-riding the time-out feature". It's considered to be along the same line as macroing.
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:20 PM
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That is why it was designed like that. I am not talking about someone sitting there jumping for beans, although I do doubt that Disney anticipated beanfests as a district clogging problem. I am talking about people who just leave their pc and leave their toon jumping so they can stay in a certain district rather than signing off and signing back on. People can do whatever they choose that the programs allow. I just think it is wrong to do it. If you leave your toon jumping just to get beans and walk away for some extended time, you are not playing the game. You are taking up space that someone else could use to play. It is selfish, especially if you are aware that you walked away with your toon jumping. The developers do not seem to be very diligent about removing glitches or changing the game to prevent this type of activity; however, I seriously doubt they intend for it to happen.
Are you or have you been one of the developers? If not, then even if you are correct, you cannot say for certain that it was designed a certain way for a certain reason. What I suggested was an alternate possibility to consider.

If someone signs on and leaves it jumping for hours or days, then that's their bandwidth and cpu they are using up as well. I go hopping for beans myself, but only on a couple of occassions have I left it like that for a few hours (this was after short periods of time resulted in little or no results).

The way I see it, there are really only a few simple alternatives.
1) If Disney intends for people to sign off while away, design the game to disable the non-stop jumping if the person is jumping for more than 5 minutes (to start non-stop jumping again, you have to stop jumping for just a few seconds, sort of like a reset). They'd also have to make it so that swimming is not considered being active unless there is movement beyond a certain distance. (Read below for comments on swimming)

2) Some key players are the main jumpers, and different people TP to them to get into the district when they want to go there. There are many obvious problems with this idea though.

3) Assign somewhere else to be the "beanfest" location. Either another district or another playground (or both). Setting aside a currently "dead" district as the beanfest district, and moving it to say, GSW, would serve a few obvious benefits, one of which being that 'new toons' could easily benefit from it too (learning to be generous would be a hopeful result too). This would keep the main playgrounds empty so there's less lag if someone is just trying to get in and out to do their tasks. (It wouldn't have to be GSW, I was just using that as an example, other ideas are highly welcomed).

4) Disney allow people the option to return to their last active district. A few obvious problems in that too.

5) Disney not allow people to TP to busy districts, not even to a friend. Obvious problems there.

6) Disney put forth effort to 'combine' districts. Basically, having a few different servers running the same district, but sharing the load and communicating with one 'master' server that would keep things intact for the district. Many problems with this idea though.

7) See #3. With that, have at least 3 "invasion" districts. If people want to go where the invasions are, and there are more districts with them, then the load would spread out some. I had made a thread about having a couple of districts for 'special' invasions. Click here If it were to be split amount 3 or more districts, all the Nutty districts could be the "invasion" districts, so it's simple to remember.

#1: You have to wonder why the developers would make swimming a way to bypass the timeout. If you are swimming but staying in one spot (ie, not moving), then that's the same thing really as being on solid ground and not jumping or doing anything else. It makes one wonder if Disney did it intending for it to be a 'hidden trick' to staying connected. Just a thought, so come to your own conclusions.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:10 PM
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Okay, we are just at one of those points were we can agree to disagree. I just think it is wrong to do it, and you don't seem to agree. Fine.
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Old 08-21-2006, 06:18 PM
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and you think its ok just to leave your toon jumping while you go and do something else, how about just logging off.?

The toons that stand jumping in busy districts, like Donalds dreamland playground, get a life... you are spoiling the game for everyone else by preventing them from getting into the district and putting increased load on the server unessesarily.

If your not playing toontown log off... simple...
There's a difference between having your toon jump in DDL for jellybeans and jumping in CBHQ for friends. Those who do it for beans are selfish and should stop as they give thousands of people irritation, but those that jump in CBHQ cause few irritation and many delight as they can be used for a lift.

I've had this happen, but not to me. I saw a mean toon pushing another into a railroad track. Of course I tried pushing the sleeping toon away (And succesfully did it. ) and then I got tons of grief from this toon - nice to see there are such understanding people out there! Making good things sound like bad things, bullying for no reason, etc.

If you're going to park your toon, I suggest you either park it at your estate (If you're in the busy district this will mean your friends don't lose the playground/HQ they were in.) or one of the Cog HQ's. Doing any of these three is very kind and I'd give a jb unite to these guys if I ever find a JB unite to give!
 

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