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Old 06-04-2006, 02:12 AM
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There has to be different difficulty levels in the VP.

I know that many people will say the VP is always the same difficulty, and it's the toons that make it easier or harder. Well, this may be true, but this morning I went into a VP that was quite more difficult than normal.

Before we had even gotten a hit onto it, it jumped about three times in a row. Then it sat down and started swiping at us multiple times, effectively keeping us away from him. Then it sat up and started jumping again. We had a few cold callers in our lot, but they all seemed to know how to avoid the VP's jumps. However, with his persistant attacks, he had picked off two full-health 50 laffers before he had even reached the first ramp. We had lost another one in the skelecog round, so we had to fight him with 5 men. It was difficult, but we managed to win.

I know that there can be VP's where he doesn't even swipe at all and only does one or two jumps. So, it makes me think that there may be somthing else to the VP's difficulty when he starts swiping multiple times in one sit-down and jumps over and over again.
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:18 AM
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He swipes when someone runs into his treads. I've noticed it seems to be a trend to run into his treads. I'd like to see that stop as he doesn't open his door when he's swiping.
I wonder if the difficulty is based on the SOS card you get. I have also been in some where he seems to jump constantly and others just a few times. I'll pay attn next time and see if that might have anything to do about it.
I don't think it's based on suit size because I've been in with all maxed hollys and had super easy battles and been in with cold callers and had a jumper.
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:22 AM
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the only reason I bump into the treads is because my friend told me to go bother the vp =D
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:31 AM
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There is only a small difference in difficulty. Lag can create the most difficulty but that is an outside force from the programming. The VP does four attacks that occur ramdomly. They are all pretty easy to avoid after you do enough VP's. The only non random attacks are if you run into him he swipes, and if everyone is far away he jumps.
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:34 AM
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I know that many people will say the VP is always the same difficulty, and it's the toons that make it easier or harder. Well, this may be true, but this morning I went into a VP that was quite more difficult than normal.

Before we had even gotten a hit onto it, it jumped about three times in a row. Then it sat down and started swiping at us multiple times, effectively keeping us away from him. Then it sat up and started jumping again. We had a few cold callers in our lot, but they all seemed to know how to avoid the VP's jumps. However, with his persistant attacks, he had picked off two full-health 50 laffers before he had even reached the first ramp. We had lost another one in the skelecog round, so we had to fight him with 5 men. It was difficult, but we managed to win.

I know that there can be VP's where he doesn't even swipe at all and only does one or two jumps. So, it makes me think that there may be somthing else to the VP's difficulty when he starts swiping multiple times in one sit-down and jumps over and over again.

I actually think its h arder when you have less people.. like he jumps more and swipes more.
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Old 06-04-2006, 07:56 AM
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1 time i was in a v.p and he jumped 3 times next min all he did was go 4 me(im the v.ps wued emame XD) and i won 4 a 4* SOS
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:32 AM
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but running into his trends has some benefit doesn't it? While he is swiping he isn't jumping - so one toon takes the damage not all 8. If others realise what you are doing, then they can take a few seconds to toon each other up or catch a breath from all that jumping :-)
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Old 06-04-2006, 12:09 PM
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I had a situation like this only MUCH worse. For the pie round, it was me, a 105 black cat, and a 75 monkey. We got him down the 2nd ramp. After that, he jumped A LOT I'm talking about at least 75 times. I caught on eventually, I went close to him and started to throw pies so he'd be distracted. We did win, and everyone in the pie round survived. That was possibly the best VP I've ever been in.
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Old 06-04-2006, 03:04 PM
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I was standing under the cage, waiting for him to open his undercarriage. He kept sitting down and swiping at those who got too close. I didn't notice if I had hit the treads or not, but one time he even knocked me back into the elevator!

Toon With a Plan, I considered that the SOS might have somthing to do with it. However, when I looked up the SOS we got, it was Nancy Gas, who is only a 3 star lure. However, a 3 star lure is much better than a 3 star trap restock, so it might just have to do with what kind of attack the sos toon does.
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:37 PM
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omg, last night I was in the VP and he jumped AT LEAST 20 times and he almost never opened his under carridge. I tooned up everybody at least once. even the 100+ laffers were in the teens. this was all that got us through

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Old 06-04-2006, 05:42 PM
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This is no laughing matter!! that thing burnt out and started shooting gears, I think I accidentally tooned up the vp... or would it be cogged up?
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:33 PM
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I know that many people will say the VP is always the same difficulty, and it's the toons that make it easier or harder. Well, this may be true, but this morning I went into a VP that was quite more difficult than normal.

Before we had even gotten a hit onto it, it jumped about three times in a row. Then it sat down and started swiping at us multiple times, effectively keeping us away from him. Then it sat up and started jumping again. We had a few cold callers in our lot, but they all seemed to know how to avoid the VP's jumps. However, with his persistant attacks, he had picked off two full-health 50 laffers before he had even reached the first ramp. We had lost another one in the skelecog round, so we had to fight him with 5 men. It was difficult, but we managed to win.

I know that there can be VP's where he doesn't even swipe at all and only does one or two jumps. So, it makes me think that there may be somthing else to the VP's difficulty when he starts swiping multiple times in one sit-down and jumps over and over again.

Speaking on difficulty levels, it also seems to change what comes out of his hole during the cog fights. Lately, the cog and skelecogs rounds have seemed to be easier with some level 1's and 2's in first round, then skelecog not so bad and shorter. Last night it started right off with a level 6, 7 and the 12, and never let up after. The skelecog round kept coming out with 12's too. It left us with only 5 in the pie round, even though some of the other toons that went sad were lower lphs.
So it seems to change there or has it always been like that, never know what kind of cog rounds you'll get?
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Old 06-05-2006, 01:00 AM
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What I've always found is that there have to be a few toons standing near the VP to distract him. If everyone stands in the front with a couple of people stunning in the back, chances are he'll start jumping. The only problem is that if you're not careful you can lose a lot of laff (usually what happens to me when everyone else is standing around doing nothing).

I haven't VP'd in a while, but I never really have noticed any difference in the cog round (except when they made it easier when Cash HQ came out).

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Old 06-05-2006, 01:18 AM
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I believe the difficulty of the VP is just random. It may seem at times that the VP is being really mean but in reality it is more than likely a combination of events:

1) Do you have 8 toons?
2) Are toons hitting the VP with pies?
3) Are toons close to the VP or are they staying back in a "safe" location?
4) Do you have a VP basher?
5) What is the experience level of the toons?
6) Do you have lag? Do the others?


Having a full compliment of toons who know what they are doing is best. Is the VP being hit constantly with pies (face and body) as this really is the key to getting him to open the bottom door more often than he normally would. If the toons are to far away he is not threatened and will not do the small gear attack or gear throwing as often and this is replaced by the jumping and moving. Is there someone who keeps running into the treads of the vp because if you do this he will not jump but he will also not be stunned anymore and he will close his bottom door so as not to be stunned. Yes you may have 3 lvl 50's with you but is that toon a brother or sister of the owner and do they really know how to fight the vp. Finally, lag, lag, and more lag. I advise fighting the vp in a non-busy district to remove most of the lag.
 

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