How much evidence does it take to win?

[sillyknuckles]

I've been about 4 or 5 times so far and go sad when the scales appear to be getting low. It seems like I've gone back for evidence at least 10 times and I'm sure the other 2 people have as well. It takes what 30-40 minutes? ZZZ

[Sir Tom Twinkletoes]

There's no certain amount. You're fighting against the cogs to get your side of the scale heavier than theirs. Thats why 4 or five toons should be stunning cogs.

[kid chico]

Right. The amount of EVIDENCE now is random. I haven't gone to fight the CHIEF JUSTICE in a while so I wouldn't really know. Well, anywho, good luck trying to beat him. I know he is hard. And if that doesn't work, do a DA OFFICE, or just stay outta LAWBOT HQ for a little bit to cool down from the CHIEF JUSTICE.

[Sir Tom Twinkletoes]

It is not random, there is no amount of evidence you need to shoot in. You just need throw a lot more evidence in than the cogs do.

[yellow fellow two]

First of all the weight of your evidence is determined by how many toons you get in the jury chairs. if each toon would pick ONE chair and get zeroed in on it and KEEP their toon in the chair you'd have a better chance of getting the 8 toons in the jury which gives you the most weight for your evidence.

The second thing that comes into play is the 20 second bonus where your evidence is doubled. You can only get that if you have all the cogs stunned. Plus, you get a 10 point laff tuneup with each bonus - so stunning the cogs is vital to your health as well as to winning.

During the 20 seconds (the count down clock) you need to really throw the evidence at the scales. If you usually play with only 2 or 3 at the scales then one or two of the stunners should run to the scale during the bonus and then go back to stunning to get another bonus (I always refill since I'm halfway there).

[FlipThunderchomp]

well im not sure but...i think it depends on how many ppl are in the jury

like i think if all the jury spots are filled with toons then the scale will be lower on the tons side......atleast i think thats how it works

[LadyVioletTwinkletoe]

Originally Posted by yellow fellow two

During the 20 seconds (the count down clock) you need to really throw the evidence at the scales. If you usually play with only 2 or 3 at the scales then one or two of the stunners should run to the scale during the bonus and then go back to stunning to get another bonus (I always refill since I'm halfway there).

Stunners should NOT leave their cogs unless they are restocking their evidence! Doing that leaves cogs able to throw their evidence at their scale and toons. When toons are picking themselves up off the floor, the double bonus does not help fill the pan!

The number of toons on the jury help with how balanced the scales are in the beginning of the battle, not the amount of evidence. The amount of evidence is due to an average of the cog suits the toons have when they enter the elevator. The higher level suits, the less evidence and more gavels, the highest suits will have an additional cog also.

Always remember that the cog's evidence outweighs the toon's evidence, so matching the cogs one-for-one will result in a loss for the toons.

[SillyFreckles]

The amount of evidence you receive is based on the difficulty of the battle, which is based on your cog suits-

the number of jurors in the chairs determines where the scale starts, 8 will make a balanced scale, less than that will mean the cogs start out with theirs lower more than 8 will make it so the toons starts out lower.

on test now, the number of jurors you personally place will effect your own evidence weight, if you place 3 jurors successfully your evidence will be weighted x2 to begin with- not on open yet


I am assuming what i have stated is correct based on the notes on test/play experiece, correct me if im wrong!

[Trish]

Originally Posted by SillyFreckles

on test now, the number of jurors you personally place will effect your own evidence weight, if you place 3 jurors successfully your evidence will be weighted x2 to begin with- not on open yet

Are you saying that it would benefit us (once this is on open) to have the toon who got most chairs in the jury throwing at the scale, or will our heavier evidence stun the cogs longer too?

[SillyFreckles]

yeah, you will have a speedchat phrase that says something like, my evidence is with 2x or 3x, and those with the heavier evidence should be the scalers

[mikehern]

Currently our evidence has a weight of one and the cogs have a weight of 6.
Do and math and you can see that all scalers versus the cogs and you will lose quickly. This will soon change and the jurors will affect your evidence weight but that is still only on test.

The amount of evidence you carry is determined by the average suits in the battle. If there are lots of toons with big suits you carry less evidence but it weighs the same.

The amount of jurors determines the starting position of the scale. 8 jurors and the scale is even.

Even 2 or 3 cogs throwing will always beat the toon.

The ONLY way to win is to keep the cogs stunned so they cannot throw.

3 good scalers can lower the scale quickly if the cogs are stunned and cannot throw.

What you see happening is as the scale gets lower and every one anticipates a win, they leave the cogs to hit the scale. This will never work because each toon has to hit 6 times to match one cog.

Simple formula: Stunning the cogs = victory.

[fluffyjr]

( Edit- Are you sure about the number of toons you put in the chairs changing your weight? I have only noticed the angle of the scale being changed. I consistently put 3 jurors in the scales and always hit the scale when I have the double bonus, otherwise I am stunning. If this is true my evidence would be worth 6 and after 32 shots that would be like 180 pieces. I do not think this is correct.)



I am certain the ammount of evidence you need to win is NOT random.

I would guess the number is about 1600. No one has figured it out that is all.

If 8 toon is a balanced Jury/Scale then assume you need 800 more. If you had no Toons on the Jury you would have to do all 1600.

You probably get 100 pieces of evidence per Juror. All 12 in place and you only need 400 more.

The trick in why people say it is "random" is because for every piece of evidence a cog puts in, or worse, a toon puts in you will have to make up for it on the toon scale.

Right when the battle starts toons have no evidence and the cogs get at least 3-4 rounds of evidence in their scale so call it being down an extra 32 pieces out the gate and that is if toons get the evidence quickly.

It is NOT random.

[LadyVioletTwinkletoe]

Originally Posted by fluffyjr

( Edit- Are you sure about the number of toons you put in the chairs changing your weight? I have only noticed the angle of the scale being changed. I consistently put 3 jurors in the scales and always hit the scale when I have the double bonus, otherwise I am stunning. If this is true my evidence would be worth 6 and after 32 shots that would be like 180 pieces. I do not think this is correct.)

This is only on Test right now, and it is only for the toughest battles due to having only toons with high level Lawbot suits. Those battles have more gavels and cogs in them.

[Miggy 10704]

Originally Posted by Chief Justice

Right. The amount of EVIDENCE now is random. I haven't gone to fight the CHIEF JUSTICE in a while so I wouldn't really know. Well, anywho, good luck trying to beat him. I know he is hard. And if that doesn't work, do a DA OFFICE, or just stay outta LAWBOT HQ for a little bit to cool down from the CHIEF JUSTICE.

Its not random. U start out at 36 Evidence's at a time than everytime u lvl up in a cog suit, you get two more. So when yur a lvl 2 Bottem Feeder u get 38 than when u hit lvl 3 Bottem Feeder u get 40 ETC.

"~: Miggy :~"

[mikehern]

Originally Posted by Miggy 10704

Its not random. U start out at 36 Evidence's at a time than everytime u lvl up in a cog suit, you get two more. So when yur a lvl 2 Bottem Feeder u get 38 than when u hit lvl 3 Bottem Feeder u get 40 ETC.

"~: Miggy :~"

This is not true.
The amount of evidence you get is determined by the average experience of the toons in the battle. The more big suits in the battle the less evidence you get. You will never get more than 36. I was in a battle yesterday with a legal eagle and other good sized suits and we only got 32 pieces of evidence. I have been in battles with big wigs on Test we got something in the 20s.