yes i do.. i just did a ceo with some great big cheese toons, four went to golfing right away and kept at it until the treads changed colors. the ceo was barely moving and stayed that way for quite awhile. it was quick and easy, i did not loose any laff and we did it with only seven toons. sadly this is the only time i noticed that golfing really does help (im a downsizer) so i have done alot of them. need to learn more