[LadyZippyBoingenpretzel]

Oh, it IS a great strategy! NO ONE ever said it wasn't. It's perfectly brilliant! Kudos to the one who came up with it! I am not being facetious here - I am being perfectly sincere.



What I have a problem with is that to even ADD it to written strategy is TOO MUCH. Too many strategies = no strategy at all. Picture it, if you will....Sicily....oops, wrong script.

So picture it....

Originally Posted by 100% FAKE CCG strategy page, not to be taken seriously in the least

In THIS situation we must use LLKR.

In THAT situation it's best to kill the BIGGEST cog first no matter where he is.

In THE OTHER situation it's imperative that we kill only the newest one first.

WHAT?? Are you new here, you imbecile?! How dare you! You griefer!! Don't you care at all?!!

/end actual facetious part



We have already had people accused of being rude, or apologizing if they sounded rude in communicating this marvelous new invention to others. If my child is going to be spoken to in that way, he may as well go to a random VP run, but not even that is my main point. However, since someone mentioned diplomacy, rudeness is not a part of that. I can pretty much promise you, along with several other parents here, that my child probably is not even seeing your words -- but if he is, he is not processing them in the way you mean them. That's just how kids are.

No one is unwilling to discuss new strategies. We are opposed to putting them in writing, at least I am, because MORE STRATEGY IS NOT BETTER STRATEGY. There's great reason behind the saying K.I.S.S (Keep it simple, stupid). It's too confusing for younger members, members who don't read this website, and for all I know, regular adult members. As I said, *I* already have enough to remember, for heaven's sake! Someone compared this with growth of a society - OMG. We are not talking about the good of society here. We are talking about a simple KID'S GAME. We're talking about a game where there is not general free communication. We're talking about taking something that ALREADY WORKS and mucking it up with more complicating situations / rules -- then labeling those who don't comply. Is this really what CCG is about? I vote no!

I re-read Flippers' second post in case I had misunderstood it. Here it is, for the sake of review. I have taken the liberty of placing some parts in bold for emphasis. Edit: Oh, forget that. I can hardly bold the whole thing. Let me take it bit by bit instead and tell you what I'm seeing here. If I'm wrong, I welcome correction.

Originally Posted by Flippers McGurgle

to not take take this into serious consideration and include this in at LEAST the rules of uber and small toon play would throw into question what anyone in CCG would believe is for the better of the group and its participants.

So we're to seriously consider this method. Fine; I think we've all considered it. I have heard NO ONE say that it's a bad or wrong way to do it. But then we have the word AND...AND include it in the RULES (what rules? We don't have any RULES) of uber play (which would be pretty much every run). Now here's where I have trouble re-wording what you say. It appears to me you're saying that failure to do so (seriously consider AND add to the "rules") means we no longer care what is for the better of the group and its participants. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, and if so you may want to think about re-wording that post. For my part, if I'm reading that right, you could not possibly be MORE wrong about my amount of caring for the group, regardless of which cog I throw the pie at.

IMHO - and I would not be alone - if someone threw this gag out and someone blindly insisted on hitting the right cog,

First -- ok, others think the way you do on this. Cool . I would love to hear from them as well. I'm simply offering a different perspective.

So, then, how would you ascertain whether the cog was being hit "blindly"? What exactly do you MEAN by "blindly"? You've had several members right here in this thread tell you that they still intend to hit the right cog. That is not "blindly". I can tell you that anyone throwing blindly will not have read ANY of our suggestions. Perhaps, judging from the context (again, please correct me if I'm wrong), you meant "knowingly". That would appear to make your assertation even worse. Those who knowingly throw at the right cog, being lured by a presentation, do not care about the better of the group. Is that a correct interpretation?

they would be making a deliberate effort to endanger any small toons in the lineup over either ignorance or refusal to "do the right thing". This may be construed as griefing if they didnt at least humor everyone else and go along with it.

Firstly: IGNORANCE is not a deliberate atempt in any scenario. Ignorance is simply lack of knowledge.

Secondly: "The right thing", in this case, is subjective. Sure, in life there is black and there is white. Please, let's not try to equate this with one of those! Come on, even YOU said this is not black and white! So why are you making it so, yourself? Do you not see that you're doing this??

Carrying on....one might assume that one throwing at the right, presentation-lured cog is ignorant, but as you and I have discussed before, not doing things YOUR (in general; by this I mean any one toon's way) way does not mean someone is IGNORANT. Refusal to do what another toon in this game sees as "The Right Thing" does not mean they are either ignorant or arrogant. Why should a toon "humor" you and go along with it? How about YOU (in general) humor THEM?

(sidebar: I can't tell you how sick I am of toons (in general) insisting that their way is THE way and everyone else is stupid or griefing! /whew, that felt good to say )

You said in a later post:

If anyone thinks that I believe anyone unintentionally putting a out wrong gag choice is griefing,

I refer you back to this:

This may be construed as griefing

Oh, OK, it makes sense now. YOU would not think they're griefing, but you're concerned that others might. Well, we can't control what others think, can we?

This is a SIMPLE procedure

I agree 100%.

and it really REALLY needs to be considered as part of the rules.

I disagree, and I've told you why. I'm not sure why you think we're unwilling to discuss this. I see many members here discussing this. I don't think anyone has attacked you.

(sidebar: I can't tell you how sick I am of people - in general - posting an idea, then accusing others of attacking them or not being willing to discuss it, when in fact they ARE discussing it, while at the same time simply not agreeing with the OP. Only rarely in any facet of life will everyone agree with us, and it's not really productive to shut down an exchange with "s/he's attacking me!" /back to the post. )

if we care about our fellow members and want to be party to their success and not to blame for their early and unnecessary demise.

I take incalculable offense to the insinuation that those here discussing this - in fact, that ANY CCG member - feel this way. I erased the rest of what I typed here so that this will meet the approval of the mods.